Note 10 may be the fastest Android alive as new Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855+ benchmarks leak

Note 10 may be the fastest Android alive as new Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855+ benchmarks leak
What are the usual upgrades we came to expect from the Note line compared to the S-line entrants preceding it? The S-Pen stylus, of course, but also a tad larger display, more RAM and bigger battery.

This year, however, besides the largest ever display on a Note with its rumored 6.7 inches, the Note 10 may also use a faster chipset, both in the Exynos reincarnation for sale outside the US, and in the Snapdragon version for American carriers, as Qualcomm just announced 855+ for flagships that will appear in the second half of the year.

Exynos 9825 may be Samsung's first 7nm chipset

A prominent tipster whose best track record is actually in upcoming mobile chipsets and their features, claimed in Chinese social media way back in January that Samsung will release an upgraded Exynos 9825 version in the second half of the year, and then a Korean publication chimed in that it is destined for the Note 10 and 10+ handsets. That would be a highly unusual move and one that might stem from the peculiar state of production nodes this year.

The Galaxy S10 shipped with the latest 7nm Snapdragon 855 in the US, but Samsung's Exynos 9820 in other markets. The thing is, however, that Exynos 9820 is not a 7nm chipset, but actually utilizes an 8nm die shrink, and 855 is not made with Samsung's 7nm ultraviolet lithography that is perceived to be superior to the TSMC foundry's aging production method that is reaching the end of its abilities.

Apple managed to pull off a 7nm chipset in mass quantities with the A12 in the 2018 iPhones but had to use TSMC for it, as Samsung's EUV machines were still not ready to churn out chips in such quantities. Well, now Samsung is ready, and today the Note 10 model with Samsung's first 7nm EUV Exynos 9825 processor got benchmarked.

As you can see, the new Exynos 9825 in the Note 10 is faster than even the most pumped-up Galaxy S10+ scores on Geekbench which bodes well for those who want their Note line as futureproof as they come. Heck, the Snapdragon 865 could very well be done on the same production node, too.

Samsung's 7nm method is better than the TSMC one in Apple's A12 or in Snapdragon 855

Samsung's chief of the semiconductor LSI division called the technology "challenging," yet mentioned that Samsung expects to become a leader there. Why? Well, it will be the the main producer of second-gen 7nm chipsets, made with the so-called extreme ultraviolet (EUV) lithography equipment that helps laying down the minuscule transistors close to each other without too much drama. We will spare you all the juicy argon fluoride against ultraviolet details and will go straight to the benefits for the end user.

Chips made with the second-gen 7nm EUV lithography can be produced easier now, with better yields, and with a reduced number of masks needed for production that will make them cheaper to make on average. At the same time, compared with the 10nm chips in the Note 9 or iPhone X, the 7nm LPP EUV silicon can be made with a 40% smaller footprint, and either 20% faster, or with the whopping 50% reduction in power draw. Compared to first-gen 7nm chips, they are about 15% faster at the same power draw envelope. Bazinga!

Note 10 may come with faster processors than the S10... or any Android

Samsung's 7nm chipset wasn't ready for the S10 family, as it is expected to sell in the tens of millions, but the Note 10... well, that's a different beer, of the craft variety, and will be perfect for a cameo of Samsung's first EUV processors, if the Exynos 9825 ends up being a 7nm version of the 9820 indeed. Moreover, this could also be a chipset with integrated 5G connectivity, as Samsung said it will try and be the first to crack that integration.

The Galaxy S10 5G uses either 855 or 9820 with the Exynos 5100 modem tacked on as an afterthought, instead of integrated into a full system-on-a-chip. Let's not forget that Qualcomm is also doing something similar, producing two distinct versions of the Snapdragon 855 - one with and without a 5G modem.

The Exynos 9825 may be coming as Samsung's first 7nm chipset with integrated 5G connectivity, and the Galaxy Note 10 may be a prime candidate for it in what is shaping up to be a very cool summer. Now, the only thing left to wonder is if that means the Snapdragon 855+ version will also make a cameo in the Note 10 models for the US. 

If that is the case, see the breathtaking scores of the first phone with 855+, the Asus ROG II, and dream about the Note 10's performance in all of its glorious versions. Just for the sake of comparison, the current fastest Android phone on Geekbench is the Black Shark 2 with 855 and 10771 multi-core points, while Snapdragon 855+ easily tops that. Sweet!

Related phones

Galaxy Note 10
  • Display 6.3" 1080 x 2280 pixels
  • Camera 12 MP / 10 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 855, Octa-core, 2840 MHz
  • Storage 256GB
  • Battery 3500 mAh



1. Raito

Posts: 82; Member since: Aug 15, 2014

Always wondering,what apps (or games) that can fully utilize the chip,so many people only using their phone for social media or casual game,

3. sgodsell

Posts: 7606; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Both AR and VR can use up all the CPU and GPU.

6. Bankz

Posts: 2550; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

Yet won't be close to being the fastest in reality.

4. Chrusti

Posts: 106; Member since: Jul 25, 2015

Emulators. Nintendo Wii games are quite demanding.

5. mackan84

Posts: 682; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

Do I have to remind everyone every time that these scores is evidence of future proofing the phone. In a age where everyone keeps their phone longer and longer this is great. Just look at Apple, less iPhones sold even tho active users goes up and service-revenue climbs every minute. These phones are made to last and two year upgrades is soon to be a memory of the past.

27. ph00ny

Posts: 2074; Member since: May 26, 2011

i play l2r on my phone and on most devices including some ipad pros, graphics settings needs to be taken down during world boss spawns and mass battles

2. bekks unregistered

spare me this benchmark scores...i want hands on the real life usage and smoothness...benchmarks tell half the story

37. iushnt

Posts: 3174; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Great benchmark phones are performing well. Which current flagships are slow?

41. vincelongman

Posts: 5806; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Also Geekbench is one of the worst benchmarks lol

7. Mike88

Posts: 438; Member since: Mar 05, 2019

Isn't it still slower than apple A12?? And many many folds slower than A12X..

9. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1485; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

And in real world situations you can't really tell the difference. The A12X is iPad only because phones can't deal with the heat and power demands, like the Tegra K1 with Denver cores a few years back. By the looks of the scores however Samsung went for the less power consumption side of the 7nm EUV production rather than the 20% performance increase, which means battery life should go up significantly.

15. Trex95

Posts: 2383; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

True that. I can get more than a day of use on my S10 plus Exyons 9820 after latest security patch update that fixed battery issue and improved overall performance.

26. dvlprr

Posts: 71; Member since: May 08, 2019

Total BS! What are you saying? Apple A12X Bionic is a half step to Apple A13. Just like Apple A10X Fusion was a half step to Apple A11 Bionic!

34. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1485; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

Sure... Doesn't change the fact that the A12X is a much different design than the A12, designed primarily to process much more data and requires more power than the standard A12 version uses and an iPhone battery could offer. Put an A12X in an iPhone and have it running at peak power frequently, your iphone battery will be toast in a few months.

29. shm224

Posts: 317; Member since: Mar 19, 2015

Apple was always about performance whereas Samsung battery-life, which IMO is the single most aspect of mobile devices today. I think Samsung's direction is absolutely correct one.

33. Trex95

Posts: 2383; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

And who told you that iOS devices has bad battery life?!.

14. Trex95

Posts: 2383; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Actually it’s.

19. oldskool50 unregistered

So only benchmarks matter to you? What you gonna say when the A-series no longer benchmarks faster then devices with the SnapDragon or Exynos? The only time I recalled benchmarks really mattered, was in the 90's when PC's were bein touted for the ability to play games better than consoles, and once Direct X was introduced by Microsoft and it blew OpenGL out the box as far as having very high quality graphics, accompanies by speed. During the days overclocking processors and RAM to build the baddest gaming monster was a thing. benchmarks on cellphones is completely stupid and for the most parts, all apps on whatever platform work at pretty much the same speed. The power of the hardware far and away exceed anything you will every run on a phone at any level whatsoever. So the point of benchmarks is basically that is all you iPhone lovers have left to hold on to as everything else Apple use to lead in, they are now far behind.

51. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Only on this synthetic benchmark.. in real-world speed test, most SD855 smartphone beat iPhoneXS, in app launch test, rendering test, battery life test.

8. AbhiD

Posts: 885; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

The so called improvement in benchmarks being touted as "GREAT" is as much as that of normal margin of error between different runs. LOL Improve journalism standards PA. And btw, those Exynos numbers especially mean nothing. Samsung has been disappointing with Exynos for past 3 years now. Extremely inefficient, slow and heats up pretty quickly.

38. iushnt

Posts: 3174; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Exynos is a great chipset. Nothing disappointing. I could see the disappointment only on the comments section of these articles. But never heard any complaint from actual users from my friends or family.

42. vincelongman

Posts: 5806; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Great chips, but still disappointing considering they've been inferior to Qualcomm for the past 3 years Especially given how big they are

11. ManolitoMantoya

Posts: 21; Member since: Jun 05, 2016

We live outside the US wanted the Snapdragon version and not that Exynos version!

12. iloveapps

Posts: 909; Member since: Mar 21, 2019

Fastest android only. Can’t even pass apple’s superior chip.

16. f_u_006

Posts: 122; Member since: Mar 19, 2014

What's so "superior" about Apple's chip? First of all, what's so superior about iOS?

32. Trex95

Posts: 2383; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

It’s a custom Soc that made specifics for Apple device that works well with IOS. Ask yourself why Samsung made there own Soc aka Exyons and make there own Android UI that comes with alternative services for every single google services then you’ll understand why Apple superior.

45. tedkord

Posts: 17509; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

You killed your own argument. The Exynos is behind the Snapdragon in performance in Samsung phones for the past several years. Apple isn't superior, Apple fanboys just have to convince themselves if it's.

50. Trex95

Posts: 2383; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

I used latest snapdragon 855, A12, Kirin 980 and latest Exyons 9820 and the worst Soc is snapdragon 855 snapdragon still has randomly overheating issue even Kirin 980 perform better than snapdragon.

17. OneLove123

Posts: 1291; Member since: Aug 28, 2018

It has 4495 single core score. Which is about the same as the A12, plus or minus 100 or two.

43. vincelongman

Posts: 5806; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

But Geekbench is useless The Exynos 9810 scores far higher than the Snapdragon 835 in Geekbench Yet it falls behind the 835 in almost all other benchmarks (yes the 835, the gap with the 845 is even bigger)

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