HMD requests FCC change model number for the Nokia 9, cancelling version with 4GB RAM

HMD requests FCC change model number for the Nokia 9, cancelling version with 4GB RAM
FCC documents reveal that the Nokia 9, which already was certified by the regulatory agency with the model number of TA-1004, will now be known as the TA-1012. In a letter to the Feds, manufacturer HMD requested the change noting that the previous FCC results for the TA-1004 are representative of the TA-1012. HMD holds the license to use the Nokia name on its handsets.

Geekbench benchmark tests for the Nokia 9 have revealed versions of the phone with both 6GB and 8GB of RAM. Both of those models tested were powered by the high-end Snapdragon 835 chipset. Another Geekbench test of the now cancelled TA-1004 revealed a phone carrying 4GB of RAM. This would seem to indicate that HMD has killed off a version of the Nokia 9 with 4GB of the short term memory used to assist with multi-tasking.

The Nokia 9 is expected to feature a 5.3-inch display with a 1440 x 2560 QHD resolution. A dual-camera setup should adorn the back of the unit, with a pair of 13MP sensors on board. As night follows day, we surely will see some additional leaks providing us with more information about the Nokia 9. Stay tuned!


source: FCC via Nokiamob.net

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25 Comments

1. Anchor

Posts: 160; Member since: Jun 16, 2017

8Gb of Ram is more than overkill.

2. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"8Gb of Ram is more than overkill." That's what was said when 4GB RAM had begun being the norm in flagship Android phones... Just chill, bruh. Besides, with VR really set to take off soon enough, more RAM is quite needed, and it also helps for future-proofing a flagship - most Android OEMs want their flagship to remain relevant even after a couple of years of release.

3. Zylam

Posts: 1813; Member since: Oct 20, 2010

That must be why they realise multiple Android version updates and essential security updates on time and for years on end.

4. domfonusr

Posts: 1083; Member since: Jan 17, 2014

Last I checked, Android was still a 32-bit OS, and 32-bit OS's can only address up to 3.2GB of RAM if I am not mistaken. What would be the point of putting more than 4GB of RAM in a device that cannot address 4GB of RAM? And, if I am wrong, I'd like to see the new info that addresses my potential error...

5. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3123; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

If I'm not mistaken, versions after Lollipop ditched Dalvik and now support 64-bit. The instructions are here: https://source.android.com/source/64-bit-builds

7. domfonusr

Posts: 1083; Member since: Jan 17, 2014

Oh, that's neat. So, if I'm understanding this correctly, Android, after version 5.1, became a hybrid OS (both 32-bit and 64-bit architecture in the same package), and thus supports however much RAM based on the CPU type, and not the OS. So if I was running, say, a Snapdragon 210 in my phone, I would have the old 32-bit limit on RAM because the OS would run in 32-bit mode, but the moment I have a 64-bit chip in the phone, it would support 64-bit OS operation, and thus have room for more RAM than I could shake a stick at. That would explain why I haven't noticed the change yet, as my phone is running Android 5.1, and undoubtedly still uses Dalvik. Thank you for the information, and have a fantastic day!

8. PilzXDA

Posts: 28; Member since: Oct 01, 2016

What world are you living in? Android has been 64bit for a few years now.

9. PilzXDA

Posts: 28; Member since: Oct 01, 2016

Here's a picture showing it: https ://goo.gl/photos/86eUdgicDaGBUpmPA

12. domfonusr

Posts: 1083; Member since: Jan 17, 2014

I see... thank you. But that is because it is also running on a 64-bit chipset, no doubt. If it were on a Snapdragon 2xx chipset, it would be running in 32-bit mode, if I have understood the earlier post's link correctly.

17. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"If it wereon a Snapdragon 2xx chipset, it would be running in 32-bit mode, if I have understood the earlier post's link correctly." Yes, because if a SoC does kot support 64-bit, then Android will run on 32-bit. Besides, Android phones featuring the Snapdragon 2XX series do not possess 4GB of RAM, as they are low-end budget phones.

13. domfonusr

Posts: 1083; Member since: Jan 17, 2014

Alright, alright, so I am a little quaint compared to the modern times... I have not been as involved in smartphone development and such since the end of S60 3rd Edition FP2 (Symbian 9.3). I was a Nokia man back in the day, but the death of Symbian left me with no real favorite afterward. I do still use QPython on my Android phone from time to time, but not as much as I used to, and no where near as much as when I could just code in Python or Symbian C++ on my Nokias. It is true that Android has been using 64-bit chipsets for a long time now, but it doesn't always mean that the OS is 64-bit... just like Intel's 8086 processor was 64-bit from the beginning, but DOS and Windows were not 64-bit OS's from the start. I was aware that iOS became 64-bit - they trumpeted it to the world with so much overflowing pride when it happened, you would have thought that machines had become sentient if you believed half of the hype - but I did not notice it happen with Android because I am still using a Motorola Moto E with 32-bit Android (because it is Android Lollipop, and therefore still uses the Dalvik run time/virtual machine which is 32-bit), even though it has a 64-bit processor in the Snapdragon 410. When I get my next phone, it will have at least Android Nougat, so it should get the 64-bit mode (and I don't want anything less than a Snapdragon 4xx, so it will be 64-bit at that point).

11. razmahtaz001

Posts: 501; Member since: May 11, 2013

re: Post #4. domfonusr (Posts: 455; Member since: 17 Jan 2014) Last I checked, Android was still a 32-bit OS, and 32-bit OS's can only address up to 3.2GB of RAM if I am not mistaken. What would be the point of putting more than 4GB of RAM in a device that cannot address 4GB of RAM? And, if I am wrong, I'd like to see the new info that addresses my potential error... ============================= not all android LOL its kinda like saying why did apple put a 64bit cpu in their smartphone that had only 1gb of ram? LOL

14. domfonusr

Posts: 1083; Member since: Jan 17, 2014

That isn't really the way I meant it. I fully understand that you can run 32-bit OS's on 64-bit chipsets, and that you don't limit a chipset just because you don't have enough RAM to saturate it. My Moto E (64-bit chipset, 1GB of RAM, 32-bit Android) is like that. See post 13 and post 7.

6. Bankz

Posts: 2531; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

I'm in agreement with trojan tbh..

19. DrakenFX

Posts: 17; Member since: Feb 05, 2016

And let not forget about Windows 10 ARM on SD835 & above, 8GB RAM will be very ,very helpful

20. Tsepz_GP

Posts: 1175; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

You must understand, 8GB RAM is overkill to iPhone Fanboys right up until their master, Tim Cook, tells them it isn't. There was a time when 1GB RAM was overkill to them, heck there was a time when they believed they didn't need 3G or Video Recording on their phones.

21. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"heck there was a time when they believed they didn't need 3G or Video Recording on their phones." LMAO. Savage.

22. mrochester

Posts: 978; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

It's a bit like how the Android fanboys believed they didn't need fingerprint readers or reversible connectors and wanted micro SD slots. They sharp decided they wanted all of those things when Apple showed how it was done :)

25. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"It's a bit like how the Android fanboys believed they didn't need fingerprint readers" Fingerprint reader debuted on the Motorola Atrix in 2011, and that is 2 years before Apple did it in 2013 with the iPhone 5s... "or reversible connectors and wanted micro SD slots." Reversible connectors were patent protected, so it was an issue Android OEMs had to handle, not the Android fans... and Apple has never provided microSD in their mobile hadsets. So what's the point of bringing it up?

10. razmahtaz001

Posts: 501; Member since: May 11, 2013

re: Post #1. Anchor (Posts: 10; Member since: yesterday) 8Gb of Ram is more than overkill. ============================= are you complaining? are you mad? if you feel 8gb of system ram is overkill, then you should stick to buying 4gb or less devices...for me, i prefer as much ram as possible ;o)

18. dimas

Posts: 3344; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

People today are doing more multitasking on their phones than their computers. Better to have more ram than get short of it.

23. mrochester

Posts: 978; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

People aren't. Phones are too limited because their screens are far too small.

15. Bfrenz

Posts: 285; Member since: Aug 26, 2012

In the world of tech, nothing is overkill, slow development of PC market made our minds stick to the slogan ,"I'm happy with what I've got". I ain't complaining when I'm forward. Choices galore.

24. mrochester

Posts: 978; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

It's a good marketing technique used against the weak-minded. Release a phone with more RAM and it makes gullible users think their current phone is inadequate.

16. ChazzMatt

Posts: 104; Member since: Sep 26, 2013

Don't be surprised if it has a5.5" display instead of 5.3". Frandroid used an app to show screen size, they didn't actually measure it. Capacitive buttons confuse such apps, and the Nokia 9 has capacitive buttons. My 5.2" 1440p Moto XT1225 (with capacitive buttons) shows up as 4.59" for some reason on such apps.

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