You can't charge the iPhone 7 and listen to music, will you be going wireless? (poll results)


We asked you yesterday whether you are considering going wireless with your audio gear, be it headphones, earbuds, or speakers, to accommodate the lack of audio jack on the iPhone 7. Well, bad news for AirPod sales, as most of our respondents seemingly wouldn't bother, and just alternate between charging and listening to music, or get an adapter that allows them to do both.

After all, the only major downside with moving to EarPods with a Lightning connector in the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus seems to be that you can't really charge the handsets, and plug the headphones at the same time to listen to some tunes. Plus, there is an adapter now, even for that.

Everything else in terms of compatibility is kinda taken care of when Apple included a Lightning-to-3.5mm-port adapter in the new iPhones' box, or else the European Commission would have given them the stinky eye even more. Plus, the new AirPods that will ship next month are cheaper and offer longer battery life than most truly wireless earbud solutions out there, not to mention that you can charge them five times over from the carrying case alone. We like it when Apple feels queasy.

You can't charge the iPhone 7 and listen to music, will you be going wireless?

Yes
27.42%
No
72.58%

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42 Comments

1. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Going Wireless? NO!

19. combatmedic870

Posts: 984; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

Belkin innovated and released a lightning cable splitter. All worries are over. Belkin, fixing apples screw ups since 2007.

23. bossman

Posts: 264; Member since: Jan 27, 2016

And they are doing that for 40$. Still having some worries.

2. dubaiboy78

Posts: 442; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

Wtf apple innovation!!!

18. combatmedic870

Posts: 984; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

Belkin innovated and released a lightning cable splitter. All worries are over. Belkin, fixing apples screw ups since 2007.

3. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

I agree with Apple on the removal of the 3.5mm jack. Analog audio would go out of style sometime during the line even if Apple didn't remove them this year. Then again, giving only one port of input as well as output is stupid. They could have provided the iPhone with another way of output or have made another charging port.

9. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Still a fan of the physical properties of the 3.5mm jack though, being a sturdier and rotatable/any angle plug.

21. Macready

Posts: 1817; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

All audio eventually has to become analog in the chain. Whether the DAC is right before the speaker membrane or the audio has to pass through a 3 ft long wire after passing the DAC makes no audible difference (Bluetooth sadly does though..) And whether something goes out of "style" in the future or not, should have no impact on *functional* designs today. There is no logic in there, other than money, left or right.

25. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

"Whether the DAC is right before the speaker membrane or the audio has to pass through a 3 ft long wire after passing the DAC makes no audible difference " ^That is such horses**t. The longer the distance analog signal has to cover, the more the SNR increases at an inverse quadratic rate. The later in the chain it goes into analog, the better. This was the major reason VGA cables went out of the picture and were replaced by HDMI since the cables had to be incredibly high quality and small to support resolutions higher than 1080p. One more thing. If you only have the option to hear in analog, you will need to change your phone if the output is poor. On the other hand, you have an option to have your phone and just upgrade your audio by changing the external DAC. Also you can buy a much higher quality DAC than a phone can accommodate.

31. buccob

Posts: 2963; Member since: Jun 19, 2012

Even though what you say here in post #25 is true, I don't agree with the removal of standard ports without tangible benefits And just like izim1 said, Android has had support for DAC since 5.0 and the Xperia Z line from before that.... and my Xperia even has Noise Cancelling integrated to the 3.5mm jack so if I wanted to listen to DAC audio, I would have done a long time ago.... but right now I enjoy the commodity of bluetooth until its battery runs down and then I plug my Noise Cancelling buds into my phone's jack.... Auxiliary cables are still around in many cars, and houses with legacy sound systems... What Apple did is pure greediness.

36. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

I'm not supporting single port for phone. I'm saying to provide 2 digital ports. I'm just in the favour of digital audio. I just want stuff to evolve. As soon as we move from analog to digital, those cars will start supporting type C audio. I'm just commending apple for taking the first step

44. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

http://www.bestproducts.com/tech/gadgets/g578/portable-headphone-amps-for-quality-tunes-on-the-go/ i had a crappy phone for sound output voltage ect and used one of those the result was out of this world. so sorry you dont know thats external DAC thats use battery and are very good quality and super small.

51. chebner

Posts: 249; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Let me start by saying someone making an argument for better sound quality on a site devoted to smartphones and other mobile products is a breath of fresh air. Building the DAC into the speaker certainly has the potential for improving audio quality but that improvement has very little to do with getting rid of the headphone cord. In order for a headphone wire to make an audible difference it would have to be really long and really low quality. A 2-3 foot headphone cable of average quality will have no audible impact. The improvement is realized by designing the DAC, amp and speaker driver specifically complement one another. The integrated design and implementation of those three things is what will improve sound quality. But there's another gotcha. You gotta spend a lot of money to get something that will sound audibly better. If you have that kind of money and you appreciate good audio quality then go for it. Finally to realize the benefits of better sound quality you need to be listening to tracks with lossless compression. Not the lossy compressed crap you get from iTunes, Amazon, and most other download and streaming sites/apps. Regardless of all the "courageous" bullsh!t Apple is spewing about ditching the headphone jack. There was really only one reason. Money. The smartphone market is saturated and until Mars is colonized Apple is going to have to fight with all other manufacturers for the now limited smartphone revenue up for grabs in the market. So what do they do? They "invent" a magical new high quality audio wireless standard that they can licence to all headphone, car, and other manufacturers of wireless audio accessories. And overnight they have a new revenue stream that didn't exist yesterday. Now if Apple was really being "courageous" and wanted to offer users the best quality wireless audio without having to spend even more money they would have added Apt-X codec support, which has been available in Bluetooth headphones and speakers, cars, and other wireless audio accessories for a few years now.

53. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

I just want good type C headphones man. If Apple helps making this all faster, I'm all for their decision.

33. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Analog audio is going out of style? Really? Do you no what analog really means? It basically means its manual or physically linked in the case of electronics. You still have to use an adapter to plug standard headphones into a port. Its still a connector and cord. Even though the port itself is digital, its still a wire that requires a physical connection. Since the phone and the headphones don't have a DAC, its not even a digital connection. So what exactly are you moaning about? You have no idea as per usual what you're talking about. Its still analog. They simply changed the connector. What a *bleep" "sheep"!

35. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

It basically means its manual or physically linked in the case of electronics. No, it's not. It means that the signal will be interpreted as a wave rather than ones or zeroes depending on the voltage at the time. I think you don't know what analog audio means. "Even though the port itself is digital, its still a wire that requires a physical connection. Since the phone and the headphones don't have a DAC, its not even a digital connection." That's utter bullshit. According to you, nothing is digital since everything is stored in some form or the other physically. And the phone still has the DAC for speakers, and all lightning earphones needto have DAC since they need to convert it to analog. They will just have better DACs and having DAC in earphone increases SNR, I'm just happy someone started this. I have never owned an iPhone and will most likely never will. Just want Android phones to promote USB C audio so that my next phone has that. And there is no other company to motivate them except Apple.

45. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Speaker cannot process numeric imput so basically its start as numeric then its be converted to analog. So in the end what you will ear is analog. But you are right on one point the longer the cable/distance between the source and the speaker/headphone the more you loose in quality. But he is right about the fact thats end result is the same.

42. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Well they should had given at least 1 to 2 years like say 2017 iPhone will have no jack and start lisencing headphone company to make them. Also as you say they should have give in the box thats adaptor to be able to charge and use a 3.5 mm or lightning based at the same time. Still best solution would been to not remove the jack sorry but i stand on this point.

55. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

The best solution would be to include two lightning ports, as I said in the comment you are replying to.

4. tech2488

Posts: 5; Member since: Aug 30, 2016

Of course you can charge the iPhone 7 and listen to music at the same time.

5. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

No, you can't do that out of the box. You've got throw away $40 for a Belkin headphone in order to do what you could already do with the 3.5mm jack: charge and listen to music simutaneously.

6. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

read his comment again... you can charge i7 while listening to music via loudspeaker

14. Podrick

Posts: 1284; Member since: Aug 19, 2015

Lmao!

17. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

@ibend Read this article again. I responded to his comment with the point of this article: not being able to charge the iPhone7 via wireless whilst listening to music simultaneously. tech2488 said it can be done using the loud speaker - yes, but that wasn't what this article was talking about.

32. Ezio2710

Posts: 548; Member since: Aug 22, 2015

650$+40$+10$ then only you can do thst simultaneously

46. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Or 650$ + about 200$ for crap Bluetooth.

8. maple_mak

Posts: 953; Member since: Dec 18, 2013

Show us how to put 2 lighting connectors to the iPhone without extension port. (Except loudspeaker.)

13. tech2488

Posts: 5; Member since: Aug 30, 2016

The most important thing is to charge and listen to music that's it, it doesn't really matter you do it. Anyway what else could you do with headphone jack exept listen to music?

28. maple_mak

Posts: 953; Member since: Dec 18, 2013

What if I was at outside? Like at subway, library(maybe)? Become a wall hunger? lol

11. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

1 port iPhone, 1 port Macbook air, 1 port iPad/iPad pro... I guess, September next year they'll announce that they've sold 1billion adapters in the last 1 year

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