Sony's justification of 3.5mm audio jack removal from the Xperia XZ2 is a bit ridiculous

Sony's justification of 3.5mm audio jack removal from the Xperia XZ2 is a bit ridiculous
Although we didn't have too many surprises at last month at Mobile World Congress (MWC) 2018, for the first time in many years Sony has come up with a new design for their smartphone lineup.

The so-called Ambient Flow comes to replace the obsolete OmniBalance design, although the changes might not be on everyone's tastes. For starters, Sony's new Xperia XZ2 and Xperia XZ2 Compact are the thickest flagships launched on the market in the last couple of years.

Another aspect that seems to have left many Xperia fans a bit disappointed is the removal of the 3.5mm audio jack, something that has become a trend lately. Unfortunately, Sony isn't too convincing explaining why its new Xperia XZ2 and Xperia XZ2 Compact lack a 3.5mm audio jack.
 



We fail to understand why the removal of the 3.5mm audio jack led to an even thicker design and clearly not as beautiful as Sony believes. Not to mention that the USB Type-C audio adapter (Y dongle) that lets you listen to music and charge your phone at the same time kills quick charging, even with a quick charger connected.

source: Sony via XperiaBlog

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Xperia XZ2
  • Display 5.7" 1080 x 2160 pixels
  • Camera 19 MP / 5 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 845, Octa-core, 2800 MHz
  • Storage 64 GB + microSDXC
  • Battery 3180 mAh(23h 3G talk time)
Xperia XZ2 Compact
  • Display 5.0" 1080 x 2160 pixels
  • Camera 19 MP / 5 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 845, Octa-core, 2800 MHz
  • Storage 64 GB + microSDXC
  • Battery 2870 mAh(20.8h 3G talk time)

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54 Comments

1. emjoigently

Posts: 152; Member since: Aug 22, 2017

The ol' Apple line of we don't think you need it, and we think it looks prettier without it, so you can't have it.

14. sgodsell

Posts: 7195; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

It's thickest in the middle with the two sides tapered in to make it really slim on either side. Kind of like a number of Motorola smartphones that do the same thing. Besides it's not like it has a tiny battery. It's battery is 3200 mha.

17. medtxa

Posts: 1655; Member since: Jun 02, 2014

It's tiny for the size.

31. yann

Posts: 613; Member since: Jul 15, 2010

What? Tiny? 11.1mm is tiny? Are you crazy? This is the thickest phone, released in last years and on top of that - without 3.5mm headphone jack and only 3200mAh battery.Ugly design, stupid decisions. Will not buy and if they mess the same way next XZP - will put and end to my relation with SONY phones for good.

28. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

Somehow, courage sounds much more genuine than this.

44. lyndon420

Posts: 6730; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

Funny how these 'market trends' are moving in directions we consumers didn't ask for. Hopefully they still make batteries for my Nexus 6...

2. yobolegend

Posts: 52; Member since: Sep 14, 2016

Some reasons beyond comprehensions....

3. PenTiltoKet

Posts: 552; Member since: May 18, 2016

It is time for a flagship to have 2 usb type C port!!

4. Chaise unregistered

Or just one and a headphone jack.

7. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2340; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

I still feel like if these manufacturers were to offer USB-C headphones in the package it might soften the blow to consumers. It’s unreasonable to think the headphone jack is going to be around forever due to advancement in technology, however you need to offer the alternative straight from the box or else you’ll find the competition pick up where you left off. Samsung is actually winning with consumers on this which is bad news for companies like Sony that are trying to pry customers away from them.

25. epdm2be

Posts: 819; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

No it wouldn't! I don't use headphones I connect my phone to my car's audio system over that jack! "...It’s unreasonable to think the headphone jack is going to be around forever due to advancement in technology..." 1) What advancements in "audio technology?" You mean that thing that's been around since 1998... Bluetooth? 2) BT (or anything else for that matter) can perfectly coexist with an audio jack. 3) Design is no valid excuse for removing features! Not to mention the environmental aspect. While governments are forcing a more environmental attitude upon citizens, handsetmakers are doing the opposite! "...companies like Sony that are trying to pry customers away from them..." If they can't understand that it is actually about what consumers want instead of what "they" want consumers to buy, then they must learn the hard way. All of them!

53. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2340; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

Well first of all the audio jack in the car has been outdated for at least a few years. Any new car offers just a USB connection and that’s it. EDIT: I’m just saying this because I have an older car as well, but just know all new vehicles DO NOT have an audio jack. I’ve seen even the cheapest of cars without a jack and they just offer USB. You can’t use Apple CarPlay or Android Auto on a headphone jack. Secondly, USB-C audio has been proven to have better quality than your headphone jack. Have you ever twisted your headphone wire while it’s plugged in and you hear that static? That’s something you won’t ever find on a USB connection. Even computer speakers nowadays do not plug into an audio jack anymore. They all plug in using a USB connection. So yes the advancement in technology is the USB connection. Headphone jacks are going to be phased out. You can dislike what I have to say but it’s sadly the truth. The headphone jack is on its way out. In 5-10 years you probably won’t see it on any new device.

58. epdm2be

Posts: 819; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

"Well first of all the audio jack in the car has been outdated for at least a few years." I beg to differ. "Any new car offers just a USB connection and that’s it." No they still offer that 3.5mm jack. It's called AUX . I've checked with a few cars including my dad's 2017 Hyundai Tucson. It has both AUX-port and BT. "Secondly, USB-C audio has been proven to have better quality than your headphone jack." Bollocks. Audio quality is dependant on you DAC. The better the (inbuild) DAC the better the quality. You can have an equally good DAC inside your USB-converter as you can have build in the phone itself. Not to mention why would you need SA-CD quality in car (or in headphones when walking about outside) when you're surrounded with all that environment noise? And more importantly, why waste a fantastic DAC on louzy MP3's or other heavily compressed audio e.g. streamed content. "Have you ever twisted your headphone wire while it’s plugged in and you hear that static?" No. I use a good quality lead. "Even computer speakers nowadays do not plug into an audio jack anymore." Yes they do. "They all plug in using a USB connection." They use the USB for power and the jack for audio. Saw this at a few of my friends whom have "USB" speakers. They could have just use a small phone charger to power these speakers and free up that USB-port for important stuff. "You can dislike what I have to say but it’s sadly the truth. The headphone jack is on its way out." Well, then why does e.g. GSMArena, still test audio quality using both headphones AND connection to an amplifier? It's not that I "dislike" this. It's that I NEED this (at the moment). I'm NOT gonna buy a new 2018/19-car because my otherwise perfectly good 2008 one doesn't have a BT-capable radio. I just buy a phone with a jack instead. Simple economics. The same with my headphone. I've good a great Monster/Nokia headphone which I'm not gonna replace just because these dumb-asses refuses to implement a 3.5mm jack. "...In 5-10 years you probably won’t see it on any new device..." Hmmm... well, we'll see about that, then. But for NOW, I expect a 3.5mm jack. Period. In fact for the (more) money they're asking they SHOULD included everything possible. Not just a headphone jack but that IR-blaster as well. But apparently you guys find it okay to pay more for less!

43. libra89

Posts: 2271; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

I agree with your first statement 100%. People like to throw Apple under the bus but they always include lightning earpods in the box. I would love if other companies would actually take a hint and follow that too.

59. epdm2be

Posts: 819; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

Sure, enforce even more electronic transmissions next your brain. And to make things even better make it with non-user replaceable batteries that are completely dead after 2 years. While environmentalists try to persuade us to reduce our ecological footprint these god-damn companies to the complete opposite! Sure, that's the "hint" we need to follow! Oh please!

8. redmd

Posts: 1926; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

By Sonys logic, next year they will remove the USB type C. "It's part of the shift to our new Ambient Flow design language. In order to create the beautiful seamless design, our designers needed to remove the USB type C. Plus, we’re aware of the major market trend toward wireless charging over wired charging.

9. japkoslav

Posts: 1498; Member since: Feb 19, 2017

It's Sony ... nobody expected reason that makes sense.

26. epdm2be

Posts: 819; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

It not only Sony. It's most of them. They they're pushing ridiculous stuff upon us, like 18:9 aspect ratios etc..., instead of improving the necessities (battery life). And where is that goddamn IR-blaster that "they" all introduced with much fanfare years ago?

48. ShadowHammer

Posts: 201; Member since: Mar 13, 2015

Sadly, the only semi-recent flagships I've seen with IR blaster were the LG G5 and LG V20. The G6 and V30 omitted it. I don't even know when the last flagships from other makers had one. I actually appreciate the feature. Especially when you have little kids who like to trash remotes...

60. epdm2be

Posts: 819; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

Thus I don't buy "flagships" anymore. Period. I bought a much cheaper Honor 8 after my Galaxy S5 died instead o/t reigning flagship at that time. Their loss.

12. Jacksie66 unregistered

I've been a Sony fan for years. Had loads of Sony Ericssons, most of the xperia Z line up and now I'm rocking an XZ premium. Have to say that this will be the last Sony phone I own.

29. Xperia14

Posts: 1208; Member since: Sep 01, 2015

Same here. No way I'm gonna buy this jackless phone. What a stupid argument from Sony btw.

34. Wiencon

Posts: 2278; Member since: Aug 06, 2014

Same here, I absolutely loved all phones from Compact line, i won'y buy another Sony if they continue to make such stupid decisions

13. JimmieCrakCorn

Posts: 143; Member since: Nov 20, 2017

Weak excuse, Sony az holes! Never buy Sony (or Apple) smartphones. Problem solved.

15. medtxa

Posts: 1655; Member since: Jun 02, 2014

Wireless trend is started by apple so they actually do us favor for better wireless headphones products.

27. epdm2be

Posts: 819; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

No they don't! You idiots keep thinking that this jack is only used for headphones. Well, it isn't! I use it to connect my phone to my car's stereo (for music, navigation AND handsfree calling).

16. Djz89

Posts: 441; Member since: Aug 25, 2014

Hope they bring it back, this is the only thing that makes me reconsider the xz2 compact. Sad trend

18. TheOracle1

Posts: 2213; Member since: May 04, 2015

If they want to "Ambient Flow" anything they should reduce (I'm not necessarily saying remove) the size of their top and bottom bezels. Phones are generally placed face up and that's what we look at 99% of the time. Next they should explain why a 11.1mm thick phone has such a relatively small (3180mah) battery when every consumer loves good battery life and it would further enhance their reputation for excellent battery life. There's no need to even address the nonsensical 3.5mm jack removal.

19. monoke

Posts: 1157; Member since: Mar 14, 2015

They need to fire the new designer of these XZ2 phones as well as the guy that gave this nonsensical explanation.

21. Plasticsh1t

Posts: 3100; Member since: Sep 01, 2014

That's a load of bulls**t considering they are making one of the best headphones on the market. That's really absurd.

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