Android manufacturers now prefer 3D sensing, Face ID over a fingerprint reader embedded under glass?

Android manufacturers now prefer 3D sensing, Face ID over a fingerprint reader embedded under glass?
KGI Securities' Ming-Chi Kuo is one of the top analysts in the business right now (and certainly one of the most quoted). According to Kuo, the introduction of the Apple iPhone X last month has Android manufacturers shifting their focus from trying to figure out how to embed a fingerprint scanner under the display, to how they can make a version of the TrueDepth camera with 3D scanning and facial recognition for their upcoming Android models.

Ironically, this comes after both Samsung and Apple spent months trying to get their respective fingerprint scanners to work while embedded under the front glass. With the Galaxy S8, Galaxy S8+ and Galaxy Note 8 sporting the "Infinity Display," carrying edge-to-edge content and thin bezels, there would be no room for a front-facing button embedded with the biometric reader. Apple had the same issue with the tenth anniversary iPhone X model.

Samsung resorted to using a rear-facing button for its fingerprint reader on all three phones. Apple's back up plan was more ambitious. It had a face recognition system built into its new front-facing TrueDepth camera that included 3D scanning. Kuo called this camera "revolutionary" back in February. Now that Apple has unveiled Face ID along with the iPhone X last month, the public appears to be looking forward to the prospect of unlocking the premium handset and verifying their identity using facial recognition.

Back in August, Kuo said that the first Samsung model to have a fingerprint scanner under the display would be the Samsung Galaxy Note 9. He still believes that the Note 9 will be Sammy's first model to use a fingerprint reader under glass. However, he does point out that Android manufacturers have tripled their demand for information about 3D sensing technology from suppliers since the unveiling of the iPhone X on September 12th. The analyst says that using 3D sensing and face recognition can raise the margins that manufacturers earn on an Android model. According to Kuo, a 3D sensing system offered by Qualcomm-Himax is the one garnering the most attention at the moment since it has been out for a longer period of time and has been 'battle tested' longer than the solutions offered by the competition.


The analyst says that over the next two to three years, he expects two to three times more Android phones to ship each year with 3D sensing, than with an embedded fingerprint reader under the screen.

source: AppleInsider

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100 Comments

1. afrohoxha

Posts: 264; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

I think he should just stick to predictions related to Apple.

6. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Probably he get a new crystal ball to predict android's future.. More random predictions = more money for him

7. yann

Posts: 614; Member since: Jul 15, 2010

Nope. After Apple and Google took the fingerprints from half population of the Earth, now they want to take also 3D Face scan from them. Imagine 3D face ID combined with CCTV. You can find everyone everywhere! That's it.

11. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"After Apple and Google took the fingerprints from half population of the Earth" That's why I almost never use tge fingerprint scanner. I use the traditional pattern unlock unlock... It's good enough for me.

53. tedkord

Posts: 17456; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

How does almost never help you. If you set it up, then your fingerprint is already recorded. Not that I buy into any of this.

63. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

How about a factory reset after setting up and trying fp scanner without even inserting a SIM card in the phone? I've used the fp scanner only once.

70. tedkord

Posts: 17456; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

If it's contained to your phone, then Google and Apple don't have it. The OP suggested they were harvesting them, and you stated that's why you only use them sparingly. If in fact they are taking them, one use and they've got it.

61. southernzombie

Posts: 358; Member since: Jan 17, 2017

except the government already has a copy of your fingerprints if you were born in America anyway.

89. yann

Posts: 614; Member since: Jul 15, 2010

The population of the United States of America is just a fraction from Earth's population. And America contains also Canada, Mexico, Brazil and all other countries from South America. Do you know that or you're dumb enough to think that America is everything on this planet? Do you know other countries in South America? Or you think that USA must rule the world? Who told you that $hit?

95. lyndon420

Posts: 6871; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

Totally agree. No one asked for these features, but these companies have been pushing them on us and finding unique ways to make us think we need them. It's the beginning of a new age where we people have fewer rights to privacy and freedom. Digital ID's and a cashless society is our future...and when the electricity is turned off we'll be powerless to pay for basic essentials and unable to prove our identities/right to exist.

42. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

I think he's just making it up. We already have face recognition. They all work the same and have all the same points of failure.

2. E34V8

Posts: 109; Member since: Dec 16, 2011

Face unlocking is way more inconvenient than fingerprint. The ONLY reason Apple used it in X is because they did not manage to embed the sensor under the glass. But isheep will believe everything Apple tries to sell them. Next year, if Apple manages to implement the FP sensor under the screen, face id will be not so great and revolutionary and bla bla bla... S8 already has both FP at the back and face unlocking. I bet Android phones will be first with FP under the screen and Apple will play catch-up again. Like with the design this year.

3. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

"I bet Android phones will be first with FP under the screen" You can get wrong with that statement, since vivo Xplay 7 already announced last august, and it has on-screen FPscanner

32. redmd

Posts: 1948; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

So you mean vivo xplay 7 is not the first Android phone with finger print under the screen?

45. 47AlphaTango

Posts: 739; Member since: Sep 27, 2015

If it's not released yet. Why not? Since it was only announced in august. Neither the phonearena nor the gsmarena have the information about vivo xplay 7.

85. bucky

Posts: 3794; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

Releasing it first doesn’t make it the best implementation though. I’d rather wait.

60. therealestmc

Posts: 679; Member since: Jul 23, 2012

No, what Samsung has isn't the same as what Apple implements in the iPhone X. There is a reason banks will not let you use Samsung face recognition for Samsung Pay. It's not nearly as secured as FaceID.

74. Klinton

Posts: 1409; Member since: Oct 24, 2016

He meant Iris Scanner. And it's the most secure.

4. Japultra

Posts: 133; Member since: May 16, 2014

Would much prefer a fingerprint reader over holding the phone up to my face every time I want to unlock it.

5. Medoogalaxy

Posts: 232; Member since: May 25, 2017

You have broken our heads Samsung introduced IRIS SCANNER, many options to unlock, and we did not see this amplification and empty marketing Apple Canceling FPS is a flaw and the notch on screen is a flaw, lack of 3.5mm is a flaw, whatever you patch. iphone error.

8. bashsnk

Posts: 14; Member since: Oct 26, 2014

Just like the author says they could not get the implementation in time so they turn to FACE ID, I prefer TOUCH ID also, which is more secure unlike the IRIS SCANNER which can be trick by a photo, HTC and GOOGLE removed 3.5mm jack , others oem’s are going to follow suit

12. zebraman

Posts: 64; Member since: Sep 11, 2013

The iris scanner can not be fooled by a photo you idiot it's the Samsung facial recognition. Do your research mate.

28. bashsnk

Posts: 14; Member since: Oct 26, 2014

I was in a hurry to typed you fool there is nothing to research about, everyone will follow Apple along just like the 64 bit

54. tedkord

Posts: 17456; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Nobody followed Apple to 64 bit, ARM. announced the move more than a year before Apple made the move. Apple simply rushed it to be first.

86. bucky

Posts: 3794; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

Wrong and you know it. Apple was readying itself for this long before anybody cared.

96. tedkord

Posts: 17456; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Nope. It's public record, ARM announced its road map to 64bit well before Apple did anything. It was always going to happen, no one "followed" Apple, meaning Apple didn't do it in a vacuum, then suddenly everyone else who had no plans to do so suddenly started working on it. It was already in motion.

68. razmahtaz001

Posts: 501; Member since: May 11, 2013

yah, apple was the first to go 64bit...but with only 1gb ram LOL and its not like 64bit was something new, computers and laptops have been doing 64bit for a long time now

69. whatev

Posts: 2400; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

Omg I can’t believe your comment, I’m still trying to breath because I’m laughing so loud, how old are you honey? Like 6 or something?

71. tedkord

Posts: 17456; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

He actually correct. It was always going to happen, and in fact others had announced the move long before Apple. They simply rushed to be first.

73. whatev

Posts: 2400; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

Yes, but apple was the one who set the milestone, android phones came after a couple of years later, not even months after the 5S...and for the other hand I can’t stop imagining a little cub like 3 years old when I read his comment it sounds so naive it’s cute actually lmao

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