KGI's Kuo sees in-screen embedded fingerprint scanner debuting on the 2018 Samsung Galaxy Note 9

It has turned out to be one of the biggest technological difficulties of the year, affecting Samsung, Apple and most likely other less well-known smartphone manufacturers. Finding the solution could lead to a shift in more than several million dollars of handset sales. If you haven't figured out what we are discussing here, it is the placement of a biometric fingerprint scanner embedded under a smartphone display. Such a placement is necessary for manufacturers to offer edge-to-edge "button-less" and "bezel-less" screens without resorting to less popular (read "rear-facing") solutions.

Samsung hoped to gain the early advantage with the Samsung Galaxy S8 and Samsung Galaxy S8+. But the technology just was not doable for 2017 and at the last second, Sammy placed its fingerprint reader on the back of its new models. The actual deployment of the button, adjacent to the rear-facing camera, proved to be controversial since a Galaxy S8/S8+ user could blindly maneuver his finger looking to match his fingerprint, and end up smudging the camera lens.

But Samsung had another opportunity to embed the fingerprint scanner under the glass of its high-end phablet, the Samsung Galaxy Note 8. But this is not happening either. At least we can say that based on leaked renders, Sammy has put the flash unit between the scanner and the dual camera lenses to prevent smudging. It still is not in a good location as it forces those with small hands to really stretch for the button. And with Apple apparently using a new highly thought of 3D scanning system (it's "revolutionary", crowed KGI securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo earlier this year) to replace Touch ID on the Apple iPhone 8, it appears that the ball is back in Samsung's court. Thanks to Kuo, considered one of the most accurate analysts around to carry a slide rule and pencil, we have an idea which 2018 phone will be first to embed the fingerprint reader.

The KGI analyst says that Samsung has already decided to keep the status-quo on the scanner for the Samsung Galaxy S9 and Samsung Galaxy S9+. As a result, Kuo expects the first in-screen fingerprint reader from Sammy to appear on its 2018 high-end phablet, the Samsung Galaxy Note 9.

Kuo recently sent out a report to his clients in which he claims that next year Samsung will replace biometric supplier Synaptics with Egis. The latter will become the manufacturer's largest fingerprint IC supplier next year. In addition, the analyst states that the Galaxy Note 9 needs new selling points, requiring Samsung to add an optical fingerprint solution. Will Kuo prove just as prescient with Samsung as he is with Apple? Let's agree to check back in a year to find out!

source: DroidHolic



1. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

Score you mention Apple, you might want to wait till they releases phone this year!

4. southernzombie

Posts: 357; Member since: Jan 17, 2017

Last I heard Apple has already said they weren't able to pull it off either.

20. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

Give us a link that Apple said they couldn't pull it off. All we heard months ago was some "rumors" that they were having problems with manufacturing yields. It was never confirmed by anyone. That along with a million other rumors. That's why I said wait until Apple releases a product before they add there name to that list.

9. Bankz

Posts: 2550; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

Wtf? The Note 9? Seems the in dislay fps isnt really worth all the stress for samsung and apple. They should just look for a perfect solution now that they all have full screened phones like a fps in the power button or a fps at the rear centre ala lg.

16. ph00ny

Posts: 2055; Member since: May 26, 2011

It sounded like they have a working in screen fps but they have screen brightness issues with the fps area

18. AxelFoley unregistered

I'm a tell you what Bankz told me, "cuz it's a guaranteed and a lock."

21. DRS1977

Posts: 679; Member since: May 27, 2015

Bankz is a troll and a liar, that is well known.

33. darkkjedii

Posts: 31322; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

LMAOOOOO! Bankz is Boney T, from Eddie Murphy's Boomerang.

2. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013


3. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

Can't wait that long without a Galaxy Note, will just grab the Note 8 now and Note 9 if it's compelling enough.

5. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

How about some info on that Sharp phone with embedded finger scanner.

7. Mreveryphone

Posts: 1834; Member since: Apr 22, 2014

Can't wait!

11. BuffaloSouce unregistered

Unless the screen will be smudge and fingerprint resistant, I'm fine with the scanner being on the back of a phone

24. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

You wouldn't be putting your fingers on the screen any less with or without the fingerprint scanner embedded in it...

13. technitude

Posts: 263; Member since: Dec 19, 2013

I hate it on the back, because of how often I mount my phone. Getting to the back is hard. I'd be fine with them putting it on the top.

25. Slytherin

Posts: 268; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

I don't care what comes in the Note 9, everything will be waiting for me in the anniversary edition when I come to upgrade next. Next year's phones don't concern me.

28. joeytaylor

Posts: 957; Member since: Feb 28, 2015

I have that same thought

31. Cat97

Posts: 1934; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

Pretty damn pessimistic. I would really not want to skip next year's flagship too...maybe LG will jump out of nowhere and embed the fingerprint scanner under their displays :)

36. darkkjedii

Posts: 31322; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

I hope they both get this done by next year, it might be pretty cool.

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