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No earphone jack for a waterproof Apple iPhone 7?

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No earphone jack for a waterproof Apple iPhone 7?
Slowly, rumored leaks are giving us an idea of what to expect from the Apple iPhone 7. Back in September, we passed along a rumor that the iPhone 7 would be waterproof. That rumor is making another pass, as a new patent application from Apple reveals a system that would seal off ports that are vulnerable to liquids. By sealing these ports, Apple would block water and other liquids from entering into the body of the phone, destroying components.

While sensors would determine the presence of moisture or airborne contaminants that would be a threat to the phone, the shutters could stay closed until it is necessary for them to open. For example, shutters protecting the internal components of the speakers could remain closed until a phone call or other event requires them to be open. The patent is called "Electronic Devices With Housing Port Shutters."

Back in March, Apple received a patent for a process that would coat the components of an iPhone with a hydrophobic material. This would be applied by placing the part in a chamber filled with fluoropolymer gas, and applying voltage to it so that the gas turns into plasma, sticking to the component. That is similar to the nanocoating used by Motorola to make some of its higher-end models water resistant.

KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, whose record in making predictions about Apple's mobile devices is second to none, calls for the next iteration of the smartphone to carry 3GB of RAM. Kuo also says that Apple is trying to make the device as thin as 6mm. That compares to the 7.1mm thickness of the Apple iPhone 6s.

And that is where another report comes in. Japanese site Macotakara reported today that in order to cut the fat out of the iPhone 7, Apple will remove the 3.5mm earphone jack from the phone. Instead of using the dedicated port, iPhone 7 users who want to use a headset will have to employ Bluetooth or the Lightning connector. Apple will reportedly bundle earpods that connect to the Lightning port, with the Apple iPhone 7. Third-party providers will have to offer buyers of headsets or eaphones, a Lightning cable or a 3.5mm-to-Lightning adapter in order to guarantee iPhone 7 compatibility.

The report mentioned that Apple had considered using a thinner 2mm jack at one time, but ditched the plan after users of the OG Apple iPhone complained about the recessed earphone jack on that model.

The Apple iPhone 7 will probably be unveiled next September, despite the usual rumor that it will be introduced earlier in the year.


source: USPTO, Macotakara (translated) via BGR, AppleInsider

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posted on 27 Nov 2015, 17:59 9

1. TechNeck (Posts: 237; Member since: 29 Aug 2014)


It's going to come with a set of Bluetooth earpods, I guess..

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:41 1

12. zeeBomb (Posts: 1725; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


Lighting connector earpods maybe? Wasnt there a patent a while back,?

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 19:05 4

17. tacarat (Posts: 715; Member since: 22 Apr 2013)


Not to mention it forces Square and it's competitors to use the lightening port and pay the appropriate fees.

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 11:40

55. rihel_95 (Posts: 301; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)


Too illogical to be true. But can't relay on Apple after seeing pricing of iPad Pro full package.

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 14:19

64. tacarat (Posts: 715; Member since: 22 Apr 2013)


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MFi_Program

No headphone jack means the charging port. Bluetooth will be another option, buy will probably require more work. It wouldn't be the sole reason for the change, but an added benefit.

posted on 29 Nov 2015, 00:55

67. techperson211 (Posts: 1162; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)


The quality of sound is different compared in listening to a wireless ear/head phones. Sony was able to remove the flaps from the charging/jack. These is kind of a wrong move for fruity. Either way I'm through with fruity. Don't want to be limited again.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 20:52 7

30. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3605; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Ya think?
It's still a rumor, but you think they will provide bluetooth earpods while they won't provide pencil for the bigger pads?
The best they would do, if this is true, is to provide an adaptor and the earpods that's it. And no listening to music while charging.
Blue-pods will be marketed with no less than $120. It's bound to be more expensive then pencil.

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 00:37

40. AlikMalix (Posts: 4821; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Apple, Jacks.... reminds me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggHae3QNvCc

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 12:21

57. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3208; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


if not this will be a funny backlash or a slap in the face to all the people that bought beats non wireless and all the other i-products like pods and things.

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 13:20

63. AlikMalix (Posts: 4821; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


I like Apple, but I'd love to see Apple fail with an iPhone one day - just to see a giant like that figure out how to get out of the hole.

posted on 29 Nov 2015, 16:53

68. Acer_Predator (unregistered)


jesus christ about some crappy useless earphones and just bcos apples must be nearly 100 comments ?? fk, ppl get over that company already..
and u still loving it?? so you iphone lover will have to buy some their crappy headphones for £200 :DD
aah jeezzz

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:00 31

2. buccob (Posts: 2490; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)


Wow, there is no limit to milking costumers via unnecessary accessories....

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:46 22

14. techandbeers (banned) (Posts: 110; Member since: 02 Nov 2015)


No limit to endless idiotic rumors that blogs use for clickbait.

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 11:04 2

54. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2009; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)


Edit...

posted on 29 Nov 2015, 16:56

69. Acer_Predator (unregistered)


well I bet apple are capable of doing such thing..

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:02

3. Well-Manicured-Man (Posts: 231; Member since: 16 Jun 2015)


Hmm not sure what to think of that. I am open for new things but I am not sure if this is a good move from Apple. I hope they keep the 3,5mm jack.

Why should Apple put 3GB of RAM into its phone? They've just went to 2GB.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 19:48 6

21. zeeBomb (Posts: 1725; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


Why didn't Apple put 2GB in the last two years, and finally did this year and other vast improvements that people overlook?

Competition.

Like Samsung, Apple has brought out all around improvents in places like the CPU, GPU, memory speed, etc to make it perform better and dish out the needs of the consumer.

I can see apple using the iphone 7+ to add 3GB Ram in higher based SKUs. I mean they don't have to, and wait for the 7S for "speed" performance.

(That also concludes my techie styled rant)

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 12:22

59. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3208; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


i remember they wanted to put a 1.5 mm jack like on some of the super slim phones and make people buy adapters

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:06 3

4. Subie (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Aug 2015)


I guess if you own nice quality headphones then your out of luck. Still, this is just a rumour.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:07 18

5. Commentator (Posts: 3651; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


I'm sure Apple will sell a Bluetooth adapter for wired headsets at the affordable price of no less than $120...

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:20 2

8. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 1930; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Even Apple Isn't That Cruel.

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 02:46 8

44. TezzaBP (Posts: 272; Member since: 18 May 2015)


They sold a pencil for $100 Arch_Fiend, I think they will be that cruel

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 03:02

45. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Well said!

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 06:09 1

49. stanislav (Posts: 130; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


Wacom pencils are at the same price

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 12:11

56. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 1930; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Yeah But That Is An Important Accessory That Is Sure To Cost More Than An Adaptor.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:09 5

6. TheWeasel (Posts: 400; Member since: 26 Dec 2014)


Doesn't seem like a good idea...and this is coming from a person who uses bluetooth headphones for hours on a daily basis. Wouldn't surprise me if Apple went ahead with something like this though.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:17 1

7. sissy246 (Posts: 532; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


I will give it the note buyers, Samsung took away the key features of the note and some buyer moved to phones with those features.
Apple knows icrap buyer will pay big money for taking away features and they are right.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:25 3

9. javy108 (Posts: 1004; Member since: 27 Jul 2014)


This is way too much I dont think their iFans would be that fool to buy a no 3.55 jackpood.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:26

10. yurajsiki (Posts: 16; Member since: 15 Oct 2015)


Jajajaja jajajaja jajajaja jajajaja

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:34 1

11. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 1930; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Apple will reportedly bundle earpods that connect to the Lightning port. They Should Do That And Also Bundle An Adapter.

I Don't Really Think They Will Make A Phone Without A Headphone Jack Anyway.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:45 5

13. darkkjedii (Posts: 19371; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Wow Apple, if this pans out. Hope there's a good solution. The Note 6 will have a 3.5mm jack.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:58 1

16. BattleBrat (Posts: 1431; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Hey Dark I just ordered the iPhone 6s plus 128 in Space Gray, you still loving yours? I don't know how to feel about this rumor, I usually use Portapros with my phones, but I used to use a pair of Sennheiser MM100 bluetooth cans that were pretty good, I guess it all depends how the 7s is, I just got the 6s plus ordered.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 20:24 2

26. darkkjedii (Posts: 19371; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I still love it BB, but I'm not in love with iPhones anymore. I will remain a user, due to having so much vested in the platform, but I wanna see more bro. It's time to give it full multitasking (split view slide over, and picture in picture), and a stylus, even external would be lovely. I'm hoping the 7 makes a quantum leap, still a very good device, the 3.5mm jack needs to stay though. The multitasking features have become a mainstay for me. Sorry for the late response. Hope you enjoy the 6S Plus, great phone.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 20:53 1

31. surfboarder (banned) (Posts: 168; Member since: 17 Nov 2015)


Did I read you right??? Your not in love with iPhones anymore?? Still be a user of iOS but there's more opertunites out there, explore them!! It's tech I'm a tech junkie and I admit it I like to explore blackberry even windows too not just android or iOS, it's a big market out there darrk take advantage of it!! I am when I can and I will

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 09:14 4

51. Plume-Veil (banned) (Posts: 174; Member since: 19 Nov 2015)


Darkkjedii response: "we have nothing to discuss ".

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 10:46

52. surfboarder (banned) (Posts: 168; Member since: 17 Nov 2015)


Hey what's up plume?? LMAO LOL, great post but exactly, nothing to discuss lol I see that everyday on here I just laugh

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 21:09

66. Plume-Veil (banned) (Posts: 174; Member since: 19 Nov 2015)


Cool Bro...lmao.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 20:59 2

33. darkkjedii (Posts: 19371; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


BB, have you tried it out yet, if so what're your 3D touch thoughts?

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 00:03 1

39. BattleBrat (Posts: 1431; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Had to special order it, T Mo didnt have the 128 gb in stock, but I have played with 3d touch, I see promise, sort of like a right click of a mouse but with your finger.

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 13:11

61. darkkjedii (Posts: 19371; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I can see major uses for it in the future. I hope Samsung adopts it too, they'll take risks with it, that Apple won't.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 18:50

15. Af1rPA (Posts: 652; Member since: 12 Jun 2014)


Would the lightning connector provide better audio? Digital audio?

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 19:07 7

18. tacarat (Posts: 715; Member since: 22 Apr 2013)


Royalty audio. If you want to plug into that you need to pay to use their proprietary connector.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 19:26 1

19. hwb01 (Posts: 234; Member since: 17 Apr 2014)


So is there a reason why they can't do like Samsung on the S6 Active and make the earphone and charging port waterproof without a cover?

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 22:47

35. ibend (Posts: 3153; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


or like sony experia series..
i guess apple reason is patent, they just hate to pay little extra cost to use their competitor's patent

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 19:35 1

20. bucky (Posts: 2442; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


Not gonna happen. iPhones generally have really good sound output and Bluetooth will compromise that.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 20:13 1

23. zeeBomb (Posts: 1725; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


That's what I think too...you gotta give apple big props on those cirrus logic audio.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 19:52 4

22. surfboarder (banned) (Posts: 168; Member since: 17 Nov 2015)


Oh god water resistance?? Give me a break, why don't they did all the iOS and OS X issues first instead of looking to nickle and dime people more on a new feature to rise prices!! Greedy bastards!!

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 20:18 1

24. kimihiro (Posts: 23; Member since: 18 Sep 2014)


People assuming the worst when it's all just rumors. I don't know with that no headphone jack thing. I don't like it and Apple will likely not remove it unless they won't compromise audio quality.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 20:23

25. kimihiro (Posts: 23; Member since: 18 Sep 2014)


The iPod Touch is 6.1 mm thick and it still has a headphone jack.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 20:35 5

27. jokensy (unregistered)


Ha! Ha! Sony can make waterproof phones with all ports exposed (except sim/microSD ports of course), but Apple can't. What a shame!

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 20:43

29. zeeBomb (Posts: 1725; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


Prob to keep cost down, apple likes to do the "make low, sell high" technique

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 20:55

32. surfboarder (banned) (Posts: 168; Member since: 17 Nov 2015)


Yep so true!!! My Z3 went in ocean and no headset jack opening issue at all

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 20:43

28. roscuthiii (Posts: 2148; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Shutters? Not gonna happen. More moving parts like these increases the likelihood of mechanical failure. Mechanical failures can't be fixed with a patch.

This seems like more of a fishing expedition where if any competitors attempt a similar solution Apple can release the hounds. Err, lawyers.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 21:57

34. kryme (Posts: 326; Member since: 24 Oct 2013)


I doubt they will do that... Like how would the beats headphone fit??? But then again that's just there way of selling new headset that only fit the iPhone...

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 22:49

36. ibend (Posts: 3153; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


maybe they'll make something like "lightning to 3.5 audio connector, only for $39.99"

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 06:22 1

50. random (Posts: 16; Member since: 14 Nov 2012)


It's much more than that. It's a unique, never seen before, adapter that links the future and the past. It will allow you to use analog headphones connected directly to magical next generation lightning port. Well worth every penny, yours for only $99.99.

posted on 28 Nov 2015, 10:49

53. surfboarder (banned) (Posts: 168; Member since: 17 Nov 2015)


Exactly kryme it's funny how Apple wants only their headset fit and not only that the charger cord too .......and must i say no Apple branded car charger?? Hmmmm so much innovation Apple??

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 23:42

37. 99nights (Posts: 1152; Member since: 10 Mar 2015)


If this were true, it's a step backwards to go forwards.. You can have a waterproof phone with a jack, take note from sony and samsung.

posted on 27 Nov 2015, 23:43

38. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7814; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


No headphone jack why can't they waterproof it with one, I mean Sony and Samsung did so.

Why do I have to lose the headphone jack? So no charging port either? Maybe wireless charging? Lol

Removing the jack seems like going backwards, unless they give BT headphones which I just don't see Apple doing. Concerning they advertise a tablet with a lencil, that doesn't come with the pencil.

posted on 29 Nov 2015, 20:23

72. AlikMalix (Posts: 4821; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Assuming this rumor is true, what makes you guys think that if Apple gets rid of the jack it's for waterproof reasons. I've seen this before when iPhone got rid of the physical keyboard - every biased entity including MS and BB screamed "will never work, dumb idea, people won't give up their phys. keyboard".

Fast forward to today and look at the industry now. Wires are going away whether you like it or not. I use wireless headphones when I work - and around the job site it's extremely comfortable and last all day (they're cheapo Walmart brand).

But let's say this rumor is true. Don't you think that soon the rest of the industry will follow (Samsung first, no doubt). And all the haters will scream the same crock: "it was going that way anyway, Apple rushed to be first, just like multitouch, 300+dpi, 64bit, integrated FP, force touch, built-in storage tiers instead of removable slow as crap SD, and so on. (Once again down with the trolls - I'm not saying that Apple gets credit to be first on everything) but when it comes to this stuff - stuff that you're so critical about - and then you favorite (insert brand name here) manufacturer follows - it's "well everyone was gonna do it - Apple just rushed".

I'll tell you who rushed to be first: that Chinese brand with force touch that doesn't work outside its own 3 apps and still has no phone for sale other than the announcement a month before everyone knew Apple was going to include it on the iPhone this time and not just Mac and Apple Watch...

Remember this post - you'll see...

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