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Samsung tipped prepping a 6" 4K AMOLED display with 700+ppi for next August, just in time for the Note 5

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Samsung's mobile display roadmap for 2015 includes Ultra HD resolution panels

Samsung's mobile display roadmap for 2015 includes Ultra HD resolution panels


Rejoice, 4K lovers, as that's the resolution you might be getting with the next edition of Samsung's Galaxy Note series. We got tipped that Samsung will start mass-producing a 5.9" Ultra HD Super AMOLED display with 700+ppi next August, which puts manufacturing plans just in the timeframe for the Note 5 release, if everything goes according to traditions.

Granted, it is just a uncorroborated tip from one source, but Samsung itself confirmed in its Analyst Days presentation slides last year that it has UHD 2160x3840 pixels AMOLED displays for mobile in the works for 2015. Also, at the Semiconductor and Display Technology Roadmap workshop in January, Samsung presenters hinted again at higher-resolution UHD smartphone displays in the pipeline. These resolutions, however, were mentioned then together with the "diamond pixel" term, which is a fancy way to say a non-standard pixel matrix arrangement, that is closer to PenTile, than the standard RGB stripe matrix. In any case, at 700+ ppi, nobody would notice the individual pixels anyway, so we can't wait to see what Samsung is prepping for us in future phones.

Back in May, the head of LG Display sat down for an interview, too, and mentioned that 600ppi, and even 700ppi smartphone panels are within reach, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that Samsung is also striving for those record pixel densities. Sharp was recently rumored to work on a 4K mobile display as well, in the 5.5"-6" diagonal range, so 2015 is again shaping up to be an exciting year in terms of resolution count.

Our own calculations return 746ppi for a 5.9" panel with 2160 x 3840 pixels of UHD resolution, so there you have it - production timeframe in August means it will be ready to go into an eventual Note 5, which should be announced at the IFA expo in September 2015. As for the rest of the specs, we surely hope that the screen-to-phone ratio will be improved, as using a larger display would make the next Note even bigger than it is now. We can also reasonably expect a Snapdragon 810 chipset, which will be ready for prime time then, and a higher resolution camera with optical image stabilisation. The rest we will leave for the rumor mill to fill in, but we have no doubts in Samsung's abilities to produce a monster Note phablet for next year, too.

Thanks for the tip!

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posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:11 20

1. Malcolm.Merlyn (Posts: 129; Member since: 28 Sep 2014)


I only have one question: why??!!! Quad HD isnt enough? its a funny world we live in.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:13 17

3. bendgate (unregistered)


For people, nothing is enough.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:25 13

22. timukh (Posts: 294; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


And charge it with what? A nuclear powered battery?

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:28 6

24. smarttechbadworld (Posts: 74; Member since: 07 May 2014)


Omg such a retarded article, we can expect snapdragon 810 ?? Are you kidding me that chip will be used in flaghsops in the first half of 2015 the note 5 will have a new more powerful chip.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:51 1

34. vincelongman (Posts: 4425; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Also so far everyone is assuming Samsung will render everything at 4K, but they may not
Maybe the Note 5 will have a 120 Hz 4K display
But actually 1080p is rendered instead to get 120 fps
IMO 120 Hz 1080p > 60 Hz 1440p
Especially since Lollipop has so many aminations

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 06:09

44. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 724; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


My thoughts exactly; an improvement in resolution that's not discernible with normal vision, and at four times the battery consumption of todays quad hd displays...

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 11:06 2

81. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Yet my Note with Quad HD outlasts an iPhone with FHD. Hmmmm! See where I'm going?

Plus with a 5.9" display, that means a bigger phone which means room for a 3400mAH battery.

Also even if it sucks more juice, Samsung phones charge up very fast. My Note 4 gets 50% added charge in just 30 mins. So far I haven't even need to use it. Yesterday I pulled the phone off the charger at 100%. I don't get many calls which eat up battery. On my way home at 630, it still has 70% of its charge.

But again, I don't use it all day long like some people who displays never turns off. My display is off more until I get home. When I get home I use it even then very sparingly because I use my Tab S

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 10:38 1

73. untouchable (Posts: 19; Member since: 04 Sep 2010)


You made me laugh. We have gone a long way in terms of screen size, processor power but we are far away from perfecting the battery or optimizing it to last longer than average.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 10:55

75. Chunkyspudface (Posts: 65; Member since: 31 May 2013)


There's a post on the grumpytechman.com that pretty much sums this up, 4K phones can't work for a while yet...

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:16 13

5. ChrisK_5434 (Posts: 22; Member since: 24 Oct 2014)


It will benefit the VR functionality. Handsets are no longer only phones!

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:21

6. Captain_Doug (Posts: 997; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Didn't think about that. Great use case scenario.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:04 2

16. vincelongman (Posts: 4425; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


YES!
Oculus signed a deal with Samsung
This is great as the Note 4's QHD display isn't dense enough yet for VR

Also what the refresh rate?
If its 120 Hz it be great for VR

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:13 2

19. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1236; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


Oh my...this just brings tears to my eyes :) Tears of Joy....I held up on my Note 3 and didnt go for Note 4 just for the Note 5!

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:49 1

32. vincelongman (Posts: 4425; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Idea
Maybe the Note 5 will have a 120 Hz 4K display
But is actually 1080p is rendered instead to get 120 fps
IMO 120 Hz 1080p > 60 Hz 1440p
Especially since Lollipop has so many aminations

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:42 1

27. roldefol (Posts: 4242; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


That's exactly what I was going to say. Why? I thought the point of HD screens was to make them photorealistic and eliminate pixelation entirely. Once we hit 400 ppi, mission accomplished, right? Even with PenTile, that should be more than enough.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:43 1

28. Mikele (Posts: 44; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


Human wants are unlimited!!!!!!!!!

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:44

29. Mikele (Posts: 44; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


Human wants are unlimited!!!!!!!!!

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 05:58 5

42. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


For Gear VR/Oculus Rift. When you have a display sitting about one inch from your eyeball even qhd is not enough.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 06:10

45. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 724; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


But that's interesting for, what, 0.000001 % of users...!

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 06:36 5

49. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


Stop talking crap. You need to visithttp://www.oculus.com/ and head to the forums. People are dying for Oculus Rift to release the consumer version. Oculus Rift development kits are so hot right now there going for more than double on ebay. Even used models are fetching more that what people paid for.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Oculus-Rift-2-DK2-Development-Kit-2-Video-Game-Glasses-/281425869642?pt=US_Video_Glasses&hash=item418649fb4a

Not only will Samsung be selling phones but they will have their display tech in every Oculus Rift headset sold. This is why Samsung is in the business of producing 4K and higher displays; their branching out their business.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 08:25

61. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 724; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


Talking crap? Who do you think constitutes the vast majority of smartphone users? Tech geeks or completely ordinary people? Did you see the statistic that showed that around 60% of US smartphone users download 0(!) apps after purchasing their phone? Out of the remaining 40%, how many do you think have an interest in VR?

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 12:17 1

86. jsobotka (Posts: 40; Member since: 21 Aug 2009)


Unless you were just born yesterday, you know how much tech and people's interest in tech has changed over the past 15 years. About 15 years ago, someone literally said to me that accessing the web on a phone was dumb and only tech geeks would ever want to do that. It's hard to put that in perspective nowadays.... I understand.

But VR is about to explode starting next year when the consumer version of Oculus Rift comes out. Facebook bought Oculus for a reason... a very good one. It's not just about games... social media is about to become more immersive. You can resist it and say that only tech geeks would ever use VR, but it won't change the future.

Mark my words.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 06:05

43. jopancy (Posts: 74; Member since: 25 Apr 2012)


how else would they empty your pocket?

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 06:37

51. DBounce (Posts: 149; Member since: 26 Apr 2014)


I have one answer... VR Gear. QHD may be all fine and good when you are using your phone as a phone, but with VR Gear you can use your phone as a 150" home theater. Understand?

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 08:20

60. silencer271 (Posts: 254; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Gotta keep moving.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 10:22

71. HomerS (Posts: 187; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


Have you heard anything about the Gear VR and VR Hedsets in generel?
Even 4K resolution is not enough by a long shot for virtual reality headsets.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 10:55

74. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3108; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


Apparently some people are blind. 720p on a 4 to 5 inch display is very sharp and clear. Do we really need the same screen resolution on a phone that we get on a 60 inch tv?

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 13:17

88. torr310 (Posts: 839; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


The Note series are becoming the Pad series.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 20:17

94. soldier1969 (Posts: 20; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)


Stick with 1080p and 2010 tech, seems like thats what you prefer.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:12 1

2. bendgate (unregistered)


Damn!

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:13

4. Captain_Doug (Posts: 997; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Not against it. Would rather have amazing battery life but I bet these would look amazing.
However, that is so many pixels. Way more than a mobile GPU can handle for now. PCs can barely run that. I guess that means better GPUs are on their way.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:06

17. vincelongman (Posts: 4425; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Nope Intel HD 4400 can handle 4K
Though not for gaming of course

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 06:13 1

46. Captain_Doug (Posts: 997; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


We definitely don't game with our phones/tablets... It'll be very necessary.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 14:22

90. vincelongman (Posts: 4425; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


But games on mobile dont need anywhere near as powerful GPUs
And they can just render 1080p with MSAA, which would scale very well to 4K

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 06:16

96. Captain_Doug (Posts: 997; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Yes, but mobile games are getting more and more intense. anything we have now won't be near enough to handle that many pixels. Maybe the 810 and its Adreno 430 can run it but We might have to wait till the Adreno 5XX comes out to really implement a 4K display.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 16:25

97. vincelongman (Posts: 4425; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Nope just render 1080p, or maybe 1440p (wont scale as well)

Like how many games on the next gen consoles render 720p/900p to get 60 fps

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:21 3

7. deanylev (Posts: 213; Member since: 11 Mar 2014)


God dammit, no. No more. QHD is certainly necessary for 6"+ or pentile 5"+ displays. 4K is necessary for 12"+ or pentile 10"+ displays. NOT MOBILE PHONES.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:23 3

8. bendgate (unregistered)


Biggest problem is battery life.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:32 7

12. xperian (Posts: 322; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


And pentile

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 05:55 6

41. tech2 (Posts: 3455; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Dumb comment. Tell me how the Pentile display of Note 4 beats every other QHD panel on the market by a HUGE margin in the battery department. Let alone the brightness and color accuracy.

And if you can distinguish pixels on a QHD display just because its pentile then may I recommend you to audition for Ripley's Believe it or Not because I know other human that can do that.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 08:16 1

58. roldefol (Posts: 4242; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


PenTile stopped being a liability for AMOLED with the 1080p S4. It's still a problem at 720p (Galaxy Alpha) but not on the Galaxy S or Note.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 12:43

87. Supraman21 (Posts: 323; Member since: 09 Jun 2010)


No, its still very much noticeable on the S4 and the S5. Just look at any solid colors, especially red. The crosshatch is most certainly visible.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:24 2

9. wilsong17 (unregistered)


Hmm how about a 4000mah battery

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:25 3

10. galanoth (Posts: 425; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)


4K is necessary for VR purposes.
The screen is like a few inches away from our eyes.
The more resolution the better.
John Carmack said VR needs to be 16K 120 Hz or better.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:29

11. LiquidGalaxy (Posts: 332; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


And it'll be just as pants as everything else they've released - dog eating nut jobs..

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:37 2

13. Youraveragejoe (Posts: 124; Member since: 31 Oct 2014)


Instead they should optimize the battery life for 3-4 days of usage

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:41

14. gigaraga (Posts: 1454; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


Very nice. They should at least increase the screen size a little but wow! 700ppi is impressive. You go Samsung~

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 03:47 1

15. roobs (Posts: 92; Member since: 18 Mar 2013)


Please keep that for tablet. 2K is enough for mobile phones unless we get 5000mAh battery with the Note 5.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:13

18. kanagadeepan (Posts: 922; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


OK... They are going to bring 4K madness to 2015 via Note5... What resolution will they bring for Note 6?? 8k???

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 10:27

72. HomerS (Posts: 187; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


To have a retina like VR Headset you will need a Phone with 32K resolution at 120Hz, so we are still a long way from that.

4K is nothing and needs to be improved ASAP.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:19

20. smarttechbadworld (Posts: 74; Member since: 07 May 2014)


This is amazing !!! :D im gonna wait for the note 5

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:22

21. smarttechbadworld (Posts: 74; Member since: 07 May 2014)


We can't expect a snapdragon 810 we can expect better

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:25

23. ChrisK_5434 (Posts: 22; Member since: 24 Oct 2014)


In the meantime midrange/budget laptops are stuck to 1366×768 for 8 years! I wonder why there is such a huge disparity with phones/tablets

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:34

25. XaErO (Posts: 319; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)


This again puts more importance to 2 primary aspects :

1. Battery Life
2. Software Optimizations for Power-pack Performance

Otherwise these devices are going to be 2010 like device in year 2015 ..

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:35 1

26. rj_78 (Posts: 41; Member since: 11 Sep 2014)


To be honest we don't need such high resolution. Better invent a techonology which can give superior quality even with full hd screen.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 05:46 1

38. dimas (Posts: 2130; Member since: 22 Jul 2014)


As Huawei's president said, QHD is useless and stupid. It will just become another reason to justify their gadget's high price. Come Sony, Asus, Xiaomi and Huawei do higher spec gadgets with 1k resolution and they're going to eat Sammy sales in Asia.

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:45 1

30. smdpa (banned) (Posts: 25; Member since: 06 Oct 2014)


Hmm, more resolution? Better have a more powerful batttery...

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:49 3

31. SonyFindOneDroidple (Posts: 794; Member since: 11 May 2013)


LOL fullHD seems already enough.
5.9" is also not recommendable. Well, I can now usethe note 4 for so many years

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 04:51 2

33. avyfa (Posts: 16; Member since: 25 Feb 2014)


Oh, samsung, please, NO!

posted on 06 Nov 2014, 05:01 1

35. athos07m (Posts: 71; Member since: 22 Apr 2012)


Thanks to this, the Moto G (2015) with 1080p 5" screen, SD 615, water resistant phone will retail under USD150. Good times..

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