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For the new trial, Judge Koh orders Samsung and Apple to narrow their claims

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For the new trial, Judge Koh orders Samsung and Apple to narrow their claims
Just as she did last year before Apple and Samsung squared off in the first epic patent infringement trial, Judge Lucy Koh is ordering both sides to narrow the number of claims that both sides will present in the sequel, which is expected to start in March 2014. Judge Koh once again will be presiding over the trial. The first one resulted in a jury verdict in favor of Apple to the tune of $1.05 billion. Apple sought to have that amount increased, Samsung asked for a new trial, and both requests were denied. Samsung is still appealing the original jury decision.

Last year's Apple vs. Samsung patent trial was widely followed

Last year's Apple vs. Samsung patent trial was widely followed

Before the first trial and even during it, Judge Koh asked both sides to reduce the number of claims and even set a time limit on the testimony that each side could put on. The new trial is also about alleged patent infringement, but includes the latest and greatest devices from both sides including the Apple iPhone 5 and the Samsung Galaxy S III. The Judge is ordering both sides to limit their cases to 25 products and 25 claims

The second trial could be delayed until an appeals court rules on Apple appeal of Judge Koh's refusal to place sales bans on some of Samsung's products. The Judge feels that the Appeals Court ruling could suffice as a verdict on the second trial since it would cover issues that are included in the second case. Apple's attorney disagrees with Judge Koh while Samsung's attorney feels that she is right.

source: Bloomberg

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posted on 22 Feb 2013, 00:23 9

1. pratyushgaur.6 (Posts: 24; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


Apple has achieved absolutely nothing in this whole suing business!! Yeah thats a business for them, an alternate source of income, their non-core business.

Last year they had Galaxy s3 and Note 2 to deal with......this year they will have to handle HTC One, Xperia Z, Galaxy S4 and then Note 2 and 3.

So how do they plan to handle these? In courtroom? I would suggest that they concentrate on their core business, they are not doing that....they are now making pathetic revamps of once glorious phone!!

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 01:52 1

5. joey_sfb (Posts: 2704; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


US will finally realise you can't have a protectionism in a capitalism nation. US is the most advance nation due to capitalism NOT protectionism.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 04:29 1

9. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Really? US put a duty of 260%+ on Indian steel and is taking India to WTO for being anti US for Solar panels ...

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 04:46 1

10. joey_sfb (Posts: 2704; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Well, that explain why apple feels that its their god damn right to sue every body.

Let see how a great company/nation would continue to do well by sueing others.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 00:24 5

2. ama3654 (Posts: 249; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)


OH! let it rest already, nobody is interested anymore, we had enough!, they can kill themselves if they like as long as they don't ban our devices or restrict consumers choice

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 00:31

3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5578; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


I suspect that if the Court of Appeals rules against Apple (which is a 50-50 prospect; maybe even 60-40 against Apple), it is all over. No sales ban is a hint to which way the Court is leaning....

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 07:56 2

11. Aeires (unregistered)


Less patents to bring up also, many were invalidated. Apple should just drop it and let it go, all the previous trial did was bring massive PR to Samsung and make more people despise Apple. The phones in question aren't even relevant anymore, and Apple doesn't need the money, they have more than enough.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 00:50

4. -box- (Posts: 3728; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Gooooooo Koh!

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:09

6. lyndon420 (Posts: 1706; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


That's right...narrow it down some as the judge wants to be home by lunch that day.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:15

7. nikenturd (unregistered)


It still baffles me how the hell they were granted a color patent.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 20:23

15. ZeroCide (Posts: 683; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


Sexual favors behind the Lincoln memorial.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:35

8. tiara6918 (Posts: 1341; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)


Instead of a delay on the second trial why not just put a stop to this never ending court battle. This has seriously gone far enough...

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 08:55 2

12. ajac09 (Posts: 1358; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


The lawsuits are doing nothing but make Samsung more popular.. completely opposite of what apple wanted. I know people who bought gs3's just because of all this drama. Heard about the lawsuit and phone on CNN goggled it an go "oh wow screw the iphone"

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 13:34 1

13. Fuego84 (Posts: 262; Member since: 13 May 2012)


Stop this nonsense, just put Samsung CEO Lee Kun-hee Vs Apple's Tim Cook in a CAGE MATCH to the DEATH! Or submission, whoever yells out uncle first loses!

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 20:24

16. ZeroCide (Posts: 683; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


I'd pay to see that. SUNDAYYY!!! SUNDAYYY!!!! SUNDAYYYY!!!!!

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 15:06

14. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6196; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


who cares bout this dumb idiot judge JUST DROP & STOP TALKINB BOUT LAW SUITS FOR ONCE

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