Galaxy S10 to come in two display sizes and skip the iris scanning

Galaxy S10 to come in two display sizes and skip the iris scanning

Samsung introduced iris scanning biometry with the ill-fated Note 7 and used it in subsequent flagships as an extra to the face recognition function in Samsung's so-called "Intelligent Scan" package. It's not the 3D face-scanning of the iPhone X and some recent phones like the Oppo Find X or the Xiaomi Mi 8 Explorer Edition, and doesn't have the pretenses to be, but Samsung is still ditching it altogether for the Galaxy S10, report Korean industry insiders today.

The thing is that the S10 will be Samsung's first phone with veritable in-display finger scanner, they claim, after it tried and failed to implement it into the Note 9 on time for the summer release (it's been trying since the S8, but we digress). In addition, Samsung is working on slimming down a 3D face-scanning module of its own for the S10, and if it succeeds, both its current face recognition effort that only uses the front camera, as well as iris scanning, will pretty much become obsolete.

There is still a chance that Samsung keeps its current setup if it doesn't crack the 3D-scanning conundrum, developed in partnership with the Israelis from Mantis Vision, so suppliers of the iris-scanning module could quickly ramp up production. For now, however, report the insiders, most other component makers have already been given marching orders for their part of the Galaxy S10 efforts, but the iris scanners needn't apply just yet.


The most interesting take from the whole publication, however, is the fact that display suppliers have been tasked with making two screen sizes for the Galaxy S10 - a 5.8" and a 6.3" panel - so Samsung is going to pretty much continue with the current scheme of the S9 and S9+, but may shrink the bezels even further or apply other shenanigans to increase the screen-to-body ratio compared to the S9, which is pretty compact in its turn.

The S10 is shaping up to be a pretty intriguing device, and we can't wait to see what Samsung has in store with its anniversary answer to all the bezel-less, notch-y tsunami that Android manufacturers are unleashing on our unsuspecting heads this year.

source: The Bell (translated)

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49 Comments

1. maherk

Posts: 6768; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Yeah, just like they were supposed to ditch the 3.5mm headphone jack ;)

2. kick413

Posts: 162; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

No! Iris scan is awesome. I've tried intelligent scan, it's slower than Iris by it self.

10. TechSceptic

Posts: 1156; Member since: Feb 05, 2018

No it's not, what the hell are you on about? Intelligent scan combines the capability of both Iris and Facial recognition, so it's obviously going to be better.

11. bucknassty

Posts: 1325; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

has anyone tried this with glasses.. ugh i hate it when i use my glasses. pretty much have to use the FPS. when i have my contacts in, no issue

12. Rampage_Taco

Posts: 1035; Member since: Jan 17, 2017

I have no issues with Contacts or Glasses

14. drunkenjay

Posts: 1657; Member since: Feb 11, 2013

it should be fine if samsung implements on screen fingerprint sensor for you to use as a second option.

32. cmdacos

Posts: 4094; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

No issue with regular glasses. Doesn't work well with sunglasses

16. kick413

Posts: 162; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

Im not disputing that it may be better/more secure overall, but iris scan by itself is faster for unlocking I would know, check my phones. When it uses both it tries to read both first before unlocking(eyes and face), instead of unlocking whenever one of the pieces of info match first. (eyes or face)

31. legiloca

Posts: 1676; Member since: Nov 11, 2014

I use Intelligent scan and it works as advertised, only part it's slow is when low light situations and that it's quite a task to raise the phone for the iris scanner to work well. Otherwise if I need a quick unlock I just use the FPS of course.

43. JesseJames

Posts: 226; Member since: Feb 22, 2015

Better how? As far as speed or security? Regardless though, I definitely agree with him. At first I used intelligent scan and it was noticeably slower than just using the iris scanner by itself. Add glasses to the equation and the differences in speed is even more noticeable.

48. bucknassty

Posts: 1325; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

maybe its cause of my astigmatism, but my glasses make it slower. no glasses and its quite fast

20. NateDiaz

Posts: 1084; Member since: Mar 03, 2018

Iris scan is fast, comparable to the fastest fingerprint scanner around but it's not awesome. It requires right conditions, doesn't work well with my glossy specs, and doesn't work at all if a light source is behind.

3. Bankz

Posts: 2531; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

but but but, iris scan is more secure. but but but iris scanning is the future. but but but bb bb....

6. maherk

Posts: 6768; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

But but but, the iPhone X was supposed to have underscreen fps, sapphire glass, no notch, etc.... but but but bb bb....

15. sissy246

Posts: 7065; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

LMAO Bankz is the apple insider, he couldn't have been wrong.

40. worldpeace

Posts: 3127; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Yeah he was on point with iPhoneX.. - Under screenFPS = check - Sapphire glass = check - 512 GB storage = check - Distant wireless charging = double check /s

44. maherk

Posts: 6768; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

How did I forget the distant wireless charging lmao He kept talking about how useless it is on Samsung phones and how the X will have the 1st true wireless charging lol

18. NateDiaz

Posts: 1084; Member since: Mar 03, 2018

Clam your tits, this ain't Apple article.

19. maherk

Posts: 6768; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Calm your tits, I'm not dissing Apple. I'm trolling their famous insider. And how ironic that the one who lives in Samsung articles' comments section is mad that someone brought Apple's name under a Samsung's article.

21. NateDiaz

Posts: 1084; Member since: Mar 03, 2018

Oh cut the crap, he didn't mention Apple anywhere you brought it first and still have the audacity to say "I'm not dissing Apple." Calm your tits.

23. maherk

Posts: 6768; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

If you know the story of him being a trusted Apple insider, you would know how this is related.

34. iushnt

Posts: 3085; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Haha you owned him

9. Sammy_DEVIL737

Posts: 1529; Member since: Nov 28, 2016

But but but, iPhone X was going to have 512 gigs of internal storage............ but but but but bbb......

22. NateDiaz

Posts: 1084; Member since: Mar 03, 2018

How is iPhone X relevant here, troll?

24. Sammy_DEVIL737

Posts: 1529; Member since: Nov 28, 2016

Sorry. You wouldn’t get the sarcasm here. And just as how maherk told we aren’t trolling iPX we are just reminding him something which he told when iPXs rumours were surfacing.

35. iushnt

Posts: 3085; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Triggered?

41. NateDiaz

Posts: 1084; Member since: Mar 03, 2018

Yeah triggered, do some s**t now?

4. Cat97

Posts: 1858; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

Face recognition does not work in many scenarios, the best authentication is via on-display fingerprint sensor. Samsung should concentrate on that and eliminate all bezels.

5. civicsr2cool

Posts: 264; Member since: Oct 19, 2016

Removing the iris scanner will leave them with enough room for a notch... Please do not put a damn notch in Samsung!

7. surethom

Posts: 1661; Member since: Mar 04, 2009

Nice, the S8/s9 phone dimensions are the best size not massive like most others, and with an onscreen finger scanner. Even better. Just wish they would go for flat glass screen I hate the reflections on the screen sides on my S7 edge.

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