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Silicon warriors: Snapdragon 800 (G Pro 2) vs 801 (S5, Z2) processor comparison

Silicon warriors: Snapdragon 800 (G Pro 2) vs 801 (S5, Z2) processor comparison
Most Android and Windows Phone flagships of last year, come with Qualcomm's fastest chipset at the time - the quad-core Snapdragon 800. The mobile chip juggernaut used the MWC expo to showcase a surprising newcomer  - Snapdragon 801. It is meant to bridge the gap between Snapdragon 800, and the upcoming Snapdragon 805 powerhouse, which will likely enter devices en masse in the second half of the year.

Thus Snapdragon 801 is a great stopgap for those flagships, like the Xperia Z2, or the Galaxy S5, which are scheduled to appear in the first half, as it offers a decent performance upgrade over the 800 chipset, and is ready for mass production. Qualcomm made it pin-for-pin, and software compatible with Snapdragon 800, so changing to the 801 is just a matter of swapping out the old, and plugging the new. Despite Qualcomm's efforts to clear up the confusion, users are still perplexed about the exact differences between the two, so we thought we'd come to the rescue, and make a brief comparison. Off to the geeky stuff!

Snapdragon 801: take a great 800, and make it better


Let's start with a few dry numbers, and some chipset terminology. The 32-bit Snapdragon 800 family can be found in phones as diverse as the Google Nexus 5, or the Nokia Lumia 1520. It uses four Krait 400 cores - Qualcomm's own take on the ARM Cortex-A15 architecture, with tailor-made instruction sets. Snapdragon 800 also features homebrew Adreno 330 graphics processing units, which can be clocked at up to 450 Mhz. Here's a general overview of the main Snapdragon 800 features:

Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 SoC features

Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 SoC features


Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 801 can be found in handsets and tablets like the Samsung Galaxy S5, Sony Xperia Z2 and Z2 Tablet, Vivo Xplay 3S, or the Oppo Find 7. In comparison with Snapdragon 800, it offers higher clock speeds, and adds eMMC 5.0 memory card support, allowing transfer rates of up to 400 MB/s. 

Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 adds higher clock speeds, and faster flash memory support

Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 adds higher clock speeds, and faster flash memory support


SoC VersionModelMax Krait 400 CPU clockMax Adreno 330 GPU clockISPeMMCDual SIM, Dual ActiveMemory interface
MSM8974-AA
(Z1, Note 3, G2, G Pro 2)
v2Snapdragon 8002.26 GHz450MHz320MHzv. 4.5NO800MHz
MSM8974-AB
(Z2, Z2 Tablet, Find 7) 
v3Snapdragon 8012.36 GHz578MHz465MHzv. 5.0YES933MHz
MSM8974-AC
(Galaxy S5)
v3Snapdragon 8012.45 GHz578MHz465MHzv. 5.0YES933MHz


As you can see from the comparison table above, the Krait cores' maximum clock speed has gone up only slightly. The Adreno 330 GPU, however, has received a more significant boost, climbing up to 578 MHz in Snapdragon 800. Last, but not least, the image signal processor has been fried to 465 MHz, up from 320 MHz. These bursts are coupled with memory interface speeds of up to 933 MHz, so it's not hard to gauge how Qualcomm achieved the faster overall performance of Snapdragon 801, compared to its 800 predecessor. 

Digging into the KitKat source codes, one commenter found out that the 8974-AB and 8974-AC, are referred to as 8974Pro, unlike Snapdragon 800 versions, which are tagged 8974v2. Those "Pro" chips have two versions - 8974Pro rev0, and 8974ProC rev1. Revision 1 is the faster Snapdragon 801, as found in the Galaxy S5. It has 16 PVS binnings with 0.1v difference between each binning's maximum CPU frequency, while the 8974AB version, as found in the Xperia Z2, has 8 binnings with 0.25v difference. Other than that, the 8974AB variant of Snapdragon 801, has its GPU speed maxing out at 578 MHz as well, not the 550 MHz thought before.

In fact, the chip giant bragged the exact improvement percentages - 14% faster Krait 400 processor cores, 28% faster Adreno 330 graphics, and the whole reason for the 801's being - a 45% improvement in camera sensor processing speed. Actually, the 45% ISP clock frequency bump results in the whopping 1GPixelsl/s throughput, compared to 640MPixels/s with Snapdragon 800. This image processing prowess is made deliberately for phones with higher-resolution sensors, which usually take their sweet time to process photos, like the 41 MP monster on the Lumia 1020, for instance. As a result, Samsung announced the fastest in the industry 0.3s shot-to-shot times with the Galaxy S5, not to mention that the phones with 801 chipset support native 4K video recording and playback, plus features like real-time HDR, and Selective Focus.


The fine print


The clock speed boost, and the faster, 400MB/s flash memory speed support, are the big differences between the new Snapdragon 801, and the older 800. There are a few more significant improvements under the hood, though, as we already cited the 45% faster image processing, which allows seamless input from much larger camera sensors, and smooth 4K video recording and playback. 

However, the video goodies don't stop here, as Qualcomm lists High Efficiency Video Codec (HEVC) 1080p support, available to devices with the Snapdragon 801 processor. HEVC delivers up to 50% better compression than H.264 in streaming video applications, while preserving the picture quality. This will be useful to start a Netflix video-on-demand session, for instance, and stream a 1080p movie with much less bandwidth than current streams. It's still a matter of adoption rate with the HEVC codec, but the general consensus is that this is the future, so apparently Snapdragon 801 is already priming your mobile device for what's to come. Actually, these image processing, and streaming video improvements, are the cornerstone of Snapdragon 805, too, so in that regard the 801 seems quite futureproof. Here's a quick demo of the HEVC high-def video streaming efficiency.


Snapdragon 801 keeps the Gobi 4G LTE Advanced CAT4 modem, inherited from the Snapdragon 800 chip. It allows carrier aggregation, and download speeds up to 150 Mbps. Snapdragon 805 will support the fourth-generation CAT6 modem, allowing up to 300 Mbps download speeds, but there are barely any carriers with such networks, so you can sleep tight for now.

Last but not least, dual SIM/dual Active (DSDA) devices are not only an afterthought with Snapdragon 801, but the ability is now hardware integrated, and a matter of simple decision for the manufacturer to make. Granted, the feature will mostly be used in emerging markets, where dual SIM handsets are all the rage, but given that the ability is now hardwired into the chipset, the service quality is likely to be superior to what we are witnessing now with dual SIM devices.

Benchmarks


Talk is cheap, though, so we dug out a few benchmark proofs that the Snapdragon 801 processor performance is indeed superior to the original Snapdragon 800. For starters, this is very obvious in the graphics department. Currently, the flagships with Snapdragon 801 - Galaxy S5, Xperia Z2, Oppo Find 7, and the upcoming HTC M8 - occupy the top spots in the GFXBench graphics testing database, unseating the previous top dog iPhone 5s there.

Snapdragon 801 devices pushed the iPhone 5s away from the graphics rendering top spot

Snapdragon 801 devices pushed the iPhone 5s away from the graphics rendering top spot


What about the overall chipset performance, though, do we get the same boost as in the graphics department? Well, judging from our own benchmarking sessions at the MWC expo, the fastest version of Snapdragon 801, as found in the Galaxy S5, shows a pretty significant performance increase. We compared it to the Snapdragon 800 in the new LG G Pro 2 phablet, as you can see in the score table below. The Xperia Z2 did exhibit similar superiority, but its Quadrant test was off, under the score of the G Pro 2. Let's not forget that Quadrant doesn't tag RAM performance, though, plus these weren't retail units, so the software wasn't completely finalized.

SoC VersionModelMax Krait 400 CPU clockMax Adreno 330 GPU clockISPAnTuTuQuadrantBasemarkX
LG G Pro 2
MSM8974-AA
v2Snapdragon 8002.26 GHz450MHz320MHz316272083521123
Sony Xperia Z2
MSM8974-AB
v3Snapdragon 8012.36 GHz578MHz465MHz333291763925172
Samsung Galaxy S5
MSM8974-AC
v3Snapdragon 8012.45 GHz578MHz465MHz355412346823501



In a nutshell, Snapdragon 801 is not a simple overclock of the Snapdragon 800 chipset. Granted, we have only a slight boost in processor speed, but we are witnessing big improvements in 3D graphics, and even bigger in image rendering. In fact, the speed of camera input processing, or high-def video encoding, decoding and streaming, is likely close to the level of the upcoming Snapdragon 805. Thus, you can rest assured that your 801-equipped phone or tablet, will stay relevant in that department for quite a while. In addition, the high-speed memory card support, the more efficient video streaming codec, and the hardwired dual SIM/dual Active integration, are welcome specifications to an already feature-rich chipset.

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posted on 18 Mar 2014, 08:29 5

1. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3078; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


I dont care of 2.5 and 2.3 ghz. I think i'm going to get a xperia z2 or galaxy s5 in May. And frankly i'm just going to underclock it to 1.8ghz to save battery.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 09:19 2

10. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1218; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


Smart man :P with that 3200mAh of Z2, underclocking will get you super long battery life

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 12:53

14. TylerGrunter (Posts: 886; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Sadly it may not work as expected for two reasons:
If you underclock your phone it will take more time to finish tasks, so the screen and other elements will be on more time too (and screen takes a lot more battery than the CPU)
In order to save battery you have to uderclock not only the turbo frequency (the max frequency Qualcomm markets) but also all the base frequencies (I´m not sure if that can be done or not) Underclocking the turbo will hardly save any battery.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 19:05 1

16. sgogeta4 (Posts: 391; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)


Nowadays, CPUs are so powerful that 99% of the time they will be operating at the lowest frequency (idling). If you want to better battery life, your best bet is to downclock the idle setting and/or undervolt it. Underclocking the maximum setting will increase battery life slightly when you have random spikes of CPU increases but if you're constantly utilizing it (such as encoding), as stated above, it will take longer and the battery life difference will be minimal as you'll be taking longer to complete the task.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 23:18

17. vincelongman (Posts: 1048; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Also you can also undervolt, which quite significantly reduces the heat and also saves battery

posted on 02 Apr 2014, 11:42

19. mrblah (Posts: 422; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)


Please stop noobin' up the place trying to sound like you know what you're talking about.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 08:32 7

2. AfterShock (Posts: 2656; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


So, S800 guys are not getting left in the dust really.
A nice upgrade, but not a leap.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 08:36 2

3. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7724; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Unless you're a heavy mobile gamer.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 10:11 1

12. Finalflash (Posts: 1588; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


Not even, this was more an upgrade for the uncore elements of the processor and that is very important. We can keep getting generic speed upgrades forever but specialized performance boosts will be much more useful at this point. It has to be done and now is better than later because right now the processor and gpu are power enough but the uncore elements are holding everything back.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 09:39

11. Nabil2511 (Posts: 148; Member since: 27 Jan 2014)


totally agree.. but we'll just wait till S805 comes out.. lets see how much of an upgrade that will bring..

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 08:36

4. koko1 (Posts: 92; Member since: 03 Dec 2013)


im going to wait for htc one m8, then im going to decide, but mostly im going for GS5 electric blue

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 08:37 1

6. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7724; Member since: 14 May 2012)


This but in black.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 10:53

13. UglyFrank (Posts: 366; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


All white for me unless Samsung's announcement is the F/P series

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 08:36 1

5. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7724; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Waiting to see what processor is inside the All New HTC One.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 09:04 5

9. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2507; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


I think it's gonna be the same as in the Z2.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 08:40 1

7. Achilis (Posts: 32; Member since: 05 Oct 2013)


Not a Major upgrade for those who already owns S800. Upcoming S805 will be a worthy successor.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 08:54

8. AfterShock (Posts: 2656; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


Another thought on this, kind of sad to see that 5S fall to the slower of the two dragons.
I would guess that's got to suck for a supposedly premium phone as it's bandied about.
The 805 will kill it.

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 13:29

15. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 1683; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)


Meh... But wait till apple introduces the new A64s chip,

posted on 23 Mar 2014, 06:04

18. benson123456789 (Posts: 12; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)


hey phonearena...in your post :
Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 801 can be found in handsets and tablets like the Samsung Galaxy S5, Sony Xperia Z2 and Z2 Tablet, Vivo Xplay 3S, or the Oppo Find 7.
does the vivo xplay 3s relly have a 801?? bcoz evrywhr else its mentioned 800

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