Google doesn't think Apple will approve iOS Google Maps, we're not so worried
1. rusticguy posted on 05 Nov 2012, 18:38 39 3
Apple is now behaving like a sissy. Good their market share is shrinking. It should shrink further.
15. Mxyzptlk posted on 05 Nov 2012, 19:52 12 23
Their market share isn't shrinking. Google's just coming up with excuses to not release a maps app on iOS. Apple didn't reject their other products so I don't see the problem.
19. Ravail posted on 05 Nov 2012, 19:55 18 3
You are aware it was APPLE that decided to remove the built-in Google maps in iOS 6 right?
23. quakan posted on 05 Nov 2012, 20:29 6 12
You are aware Apple didn't remove it, they just let their contract/agreement expire. The YouTube app was available before the launch of the iPhone 5 if you remember. The only reason there is no maps app is because of Google.
26. bayusuputra posted on 05 Nov 2012, 21:02 5 1
uumm, didn't apple let it expire and then decided not to include GMap just to have apple maps inside? there's an article about that in PA..
So, no, apple didn't remove, they just let the contract expire and then decided not to include it anymore..
and apple didn't reject Google's other products, but in the case of Maps, it is because apple sooooo wanted to use its own map that it decided to shoot itself in the head..
29. quakan posted on 05 Nov 2012, 21:12 3 3
Yes, Apple let it expire so that meant legally they couldn't use a Google application as a stock application without getting Google's permission (*cough contract/agreement cough*). Apple wanted to go it's own route so they didn't mind and if it wasn't for the maps fiasco they would be smooth sailing. There is a full suite of Google applications in the app store (all approved by Apple) so they would more than likely accept a new Google maps, it just wouldn't be the default maps (as in no clicking a link in Safari and getting it to open in Google maps and there most likely won't be support for Siri or other stock features). I for one hated losing the stock YouTube app mainly because I can no longer lock my iPhone and listen to music on the run like I used to (not sure if it works through Safari though).
28. firelightx posted on 05 Nov 2012, 21:08 15 2
So many things wrong with this.
First of all: there was a year left on the contract. Apple took google maps out early. This is a fact.
Second of all: it is much, much more difficult to make a working maps application, complete with all the features google offers (traffic, satellite, latitude, local, 3d mapping, indoor mapping, etc...) than it is to create an app that plays videos from the internet. This is also a fact.
That said, I think the OP is wrong, and this article as the right of it. Google is taking the steps they think are necessary to see their app properly approved. whether these steps are ACTUALLY needed or not remains to be seen.
While I'm nooooo fan of apple, I don't think it's fair to call them a sissy when in this particular case, they haven't done anything.
30. quakan posted on 05 Nov 2012, 21:20 3 0
First: I read an article at the time saying that Apple let the contract expire. So if I'm wrong, I'm fine with that. Just reply with a link.
Second: While that is true, Apple didn't create their own data for the maps. Instead they used data from TomTom and others and then "Carmel Apple-ized" it (just a term I made up for Apple turning something into a more Apple look and feel) and presented it to the public.
I think we'll see Google maps in App Store eventually. It just all depends on when Google has it complete and whenever Apple gives it the green light.
Also, rusticguy made the sissy remark ;-)
31. MichaelHeller posted on 05 Nov 2012, 21:24 15 0
The contract didn't expire. Apple removed Google Maps even though there was still a year left on the deal, and Apple could have kept Google Maps.
That said, it has been rumored that Google wasn't going to allow Apple to use turn-by-turn or vector graphics, which prompted the switch now.
33. quakan posted on 05 Nov 2012, 21:40 1 7
Thanks for the link, Michael. :-p
Also, in your future articles, I give you my express written consent to use "Carmel Apple-ized". All I require is credit.
34. cybervlad81 posted on 05 Nov 2012, 21:58 0 0
Well, we don't know what the contract said exactly, and being that the contract has still not expired it is possible that the contract had a clause in it preventing Google from releasing their own maps app. I know that at one point(a few years ago?) I saw Google had listed on their site how to add a shortcut to the web maps on your iDevice because they could not release their own app for iOS. At that time iOS's maps were pulled from Google. Just a guess at why Google may doubt the acceptance of a Gmaps app.
35. jackhuny posted on 05 Nov 2012, 22:18 1 0
If apple can build a youtube app don't you think they will just take over? It is just so "apple", they take a good third party app and build one of their own and build-in to the iOS force people to use it.
36. quakan posted on 05 Nov 2012, 22:22 0 2
The same could be said about Google though. Their suite of applications aren't all original and typically don't differentiate from other competitors drastically.
38. JeffdaBeat posted on 05 Nov 2012, 22:48 2 2
Apple was absolutely right in removing Google Maps and YouTube from stock iOS. Everyone may have their sides in this, but from a business point of view, Google is a competitor. Period. You shouldn't willingly put your direct competitor's products in your device unless you are legally obligated to do so.
Now, YouTube being in The App Store, that's fine. Users can choose to download it or not. Google Maps should be in the App Store and I'm sure it will get approved (Apple pretty much promoted Apple Maps alternatives after they made their apology). Google's Maps app will get approved.
But again...you should never be in bed with your competitor. Whether you like Apple or not, it isn't in the best interest of Apple to continue to have their rival's products loaded in with their stock software.
21. Izzy_V posted on 05 Nov 2012, 19:59 6 2
I'm not sure if you're that oblivious and ignorant or flat out don't pay attention to anything that goes against apple even when they (the ones going against apple) are right.
apple removed the GMaps app from the app store/ios so its apple maps app would be the first app users came across if they needed to get directions and find places. Google isn't coming up with excuses, they're trying to put it back in so the already lost ios users don't get more lost using apple maps.
43. letgomyeggroll posted on 06 Nov 2012, 00:19 1 0
Mxy why do you always comment before read and get the facts first
Now take out the rainbow out of your a@!, and be real for once!!!
49. Mxyzptlk posted on 07 Nov 2012, 16:21 0 1
Talk first questions later.
39. Bernoulli posted on 05 Nov 2012, 23:15 0 0
Poor nokia, the only thing that can save them from shame is to be bought out by a bigger company lol
44. Danre posted on 06 Nov 2012, 06:29 1 0
Apple is now behaving like a sissy because they know Gmap is far better & superior than Apple map.
and if Google map comes in iOs then only a fool is going use Apple map.
2. pankajgupta posted on 05 Nov 2012, 18:41 10 2
they will stop it.. just not now..
they will do it when their own Maps are good.. may be.. 10-12 years down the line :P
and that is why people love android because of such openness and options. :)
4. PapaSmurf posted on 05 Nov 2012, 18:51 2 1
Allowing the GMaps app on the iTunes store will not only show how many people love GMaps, but also how much Apple has to work on with their own mapping system. They're doing pretty good but GMaps is the most polished mapping app out there besides Nokia Maps.
40. Bernoulli posted on 05 Nov 2012, 23:17 0 0
Something I consider rather weird is how nokia maps is available on Google play but not in the ios store :P hehe if only nokia had gone for Android instead of windows ... lol
8. skymitch89 posted on 05 Nov 2012, 19:02 0 0
I thought that Google Maps was already on iOS? I've seen it on iPhones and iPads before.
12. Izzy_V posted on 05 Nov 2012, 19:23 0 0
It used to be but when Android started to crush apple's products more and more it removed the GMaps app. At the same time apple was also about to release/it released its apple maps [cr]app.
22. lyndon420 posted on 05 Nov 2012, 20:23 0 0
It was not included in ios6 as apple in their infinate wisdom thought it was smart to ditch Google Maps a year before their contract expired. They tried a different approach this time by giving their customers a half baked product like apple maps.
20. InspectorGadget80 posted on 05 Nov 2012, 19:58 0 1
Google don't even wast youre time against the bad Fruit. Just let their crappy imaps get their consumers get lost
25. bomariam1 posted on 05 Nov 2012, 20:40 3 1
I think that Apple can bo any thing, because they only sell their product to an apple lover customers. ( US ).
And they will buy it even if it dose nothing.
Who buy an product such like iPad when you can buy a tab that have multi screen, and a pen!
45. LostInTheRed posted on 06 Nov 2012, 08:23 0 0
I'd also like to point out, it's also been rumored that Apple withheld the features like turn-by-turn, so that when they released Apple Maps, it would be seen as a new and much needed feature on iOS.
46. Fuego84 posted on 06 Nov 2012, 17:58 0 0
Well Google doesn't have to make a maps app for IOS if it doesn't want to in the first. place.