Poll results: Is Samsung's Dual Pixel camera tech on the Galaxy S7 true phone innovation?

Poll results: Is Samsung's Dual Pixel camera tech on the Galaxy S7 true phone innovation?
The Dual Pixel sensor on the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge employs two photodiodes for every single pixel, so instead of 5-10% of the dots being used for focusing (like on the iPhone 6s or Note 5), all of them take part now. While not a unique camera technology, that's the first time it's being used in a phone, and the implications for focusing speed and accuracy are huge, especially with moving objects, live footage, or in low-light scenarios. That is why  we asked you last week whether you consider this true phone innovation, and the answer was overwhelmingnly yes, boding well for Samsung's future iterations and employment of the Dual Pixel technology.

We are pretty spoiled these days when it comes to what our phones can offer, to the extent that a pretty svelte handset like the HTC 10 has been called unremarkable in many a review around the Internets just because it doesn't offer that little something extra that can make it unique, like a curved panel, a modular design, or a 3D-touch display.

These, however, while intriguing, aren't indispensable and used on an everyday basis by their respective phone owners, as anecdotal evidence, and most of our polls show. For something to be called "innovation," no matter how overused this word is nowadays, it has to be both unique and truly useful. Samsung's Dual Pixel camera technology ticks both boxes, as no other handset has it, and it really adds to the camera experience, catapulting Samsung to the top place in the fastest phone shooters as per our own measurements, not to mention how crazy fast the continuous autofocus behaves while shooting video in any condition.

Is Samsung's Dual Pixel camera tech on the Galaxy S7 true phone innovation?

Yes
78.5%
No
21.5%

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50 Comments

1. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

I wouldn't call it innovation because it's not new, therefore not innovative, but it's progression in phones and seems like very decent tech to include. There's very little left to innovate with and the word gets thrown around too often for things like higher res screens or more RAM. Not everything has to be innovation - but making all these things we use daily better is always good and Samsung have done it well.

11. Shocky unregistered

It's faster method of focusing that's never been incorporated into mobile phone before, it's innovation. Innovation can't always come in the form of something completely new and groundbreaking, that rarely happens as almost everything we do revolves around refining and improving existing technology.

17. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

No to worry, Apple will buy the part when its common and cheap enough then give it a catchy jargon. That's would be true innovation, right!

19. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

You're the one mentioning Apple when no-one else was, I notice that happens a lot around here...

20. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

that because apple = innovation (at least sheep think that way)

22. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Or rather many Fandroids are obsessed by Apple, that's the real truth.

23. refillable

Posts: 1071; Member since: Mar 10, 2014

No, they aren't. iFans can't accept the truth.

26. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Who mentioned Apple first in this thread? Was it me, the "iFan"? Did I say anything bad about Android or Samsung? As usual it all starts from one side...

32. refillable

Posts: 1071; Member since: Mar 10, 2014

No, you're not an iFan, I acknowledge that. But all I'm saying is the main problem is iFans think what they love as their religion are simply miles better than the competition while the truth says otherwise. Just sayin'. Not trying to start anything. Fandroids are obsessed with iFans, most of the time, not with apple.

30. QuasarExod

Posts: 102; Member since: Mar 29, 2016

iFocus is very innovative.

28. yoosufmuneer

Posts: 1518; Member since: Feb 14, 2015

Its not a new tech but it is an advancement of an existing tech. For example with PDAF Autofocussing isn't all that great in Lowlight and it takes a few seconds. This Dual Pixel tech is fast and works well in Lowlight

38. TheUnbiasedGuy

Posts: 50; Member since: Apr 21, 2016

innovation - Something new, and contrary to established customs, manners, or rites. The new s7 focuses in a very different manner by using all of its pixels contrary to earlier phones which focuses by 5-10 % of the pixels.So yes it will be called a innovation. In that regard 3d touch is also a innovation,but according to the said article it has to be both unique and truly useful.As I have not used 3d touch,any fellow users who have any view on either it is truly useful or a gimmick are welcome to collaborate.

42. siddharthayadav202

Posts: 286; Member since: Apr 23, 2016

Name something that you call innovation? Completely new concept.. Never seen before.. And actually offers something that could not be done otherwise.

47. TheUnbiasedGuy

Posts: 50; Member since: Apr 21, 2016

I think you didn't get what I was trying to say,innovation is something which is done in some new revolutionary way and in a much efficient way,contrary to what others were doing it before. And to your question some things come to my mind like electric cars(tesla) , touch screen devices were innovative at their time etc.

2. davidsmith

Posts: 62; Member since: Mar 09, 2016

These changes should truly improve focus speed and low-light shooting, but does anyone know if there will be any improvement in dynamic range? Here i need experts suggestion about rooting my s7. i found this tutorial http://www.samsungdeck.com/2016/04/25/root-samsung-galaxy-s7-marshmallow-cf-auto-root/ but getting afraid to follow this guide. any expert please advise me should i follow this or not ?

4. kent-gaga

Posts: 609; Member since: Apr 10, 2012

it is truly amazing how fast the Galaxy S7's camera can focus on an object, but for me it's not necessarily an "innovation", especially when some DSLRs have had this for years btw Sony's new sensor for smartphone can achieve the same focusing time without inserting that many phase-detection pixels and people dont even care I'm currently using a Galaxy S7 with Sony sensor inside, and it seems to have a difficult time focusing when recording videos (it can't focus correctly even on a big object in closer range). I hope this is just a software issue and samsung's going to fix it soon

5. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

I expect it's a software issue, it's all very well having every pixel on the screen able to focus but part of the reason cameras have focus points is to select what you actually want to focus on - tapping the screen on a phone is fine for photos but if recording video it needs some smart software to know what you actually want to lock onto and keep it sharp rather than randomly selecting anything.

53. kent-gaga

Posts: 609; Member since: Apr 10, 2012

i tried both AF and touch focus and the phone still can't correctly focus on any object about 7 - 10cm to the lens

25. refillable

Posts: 1071; Member since: Mar 10, 2014

You see PA? You're funny. Keeping trolls at the site seemed like a nice trait to you. Idiocy. I hope I know what you mean by this. I am simply frustrated with your stupidity. If you want, I'm not even helped by PA's existence, I'm here because I like communicating and discussing phones, I can do that on other sites and the only reason I join PA is because I signed up here before joining from other sites. I can leave whenever I can and I request, please ban trolls.

33. cnour

Posts: 2305; Member since: Sep 11, 2014

Samsung and innovation in the same sentence!!!! Are you serious!!!!!

36. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

yeah right... it kinda redundant :-/

44. siddharthayadav202

Posts: 286; Member since: Apr 23, 2016

Really? Most Patents.. Most R&D spendings.. And no innovation as per you?? What do you think is a innovation if this is not?

35. ohjoechris

Posts: 5; Member since: Apr 19, 2016

how did this conversation move from innovative technology to writen english

40. chenski

Posts: 774; Member since: Mar 22, 2015

Lg's modules are true innovation

45. siddharthayadav202

Posts: 286; Member since: Apr 23, 2016

They are actually more like Mini Project Ara.. If you could change battery without restarting, it would have been much better. But its still nice. One of few dual lens camera that actually work properly.

41. siddharthayadav202

Posts: 286; Member since: Apr 23, 2016

If this it not an innovation, there has been no innovations till now..

46. GeorgeAF

Posts: 88; Member since: Feb 25, 2014

Innovation - a new method, idea, product, etc. This is preexisting technology in those fancy camera but never seen before in mobile. This then is an innovation to the mobile industry. Lets not allow brand-hate to dictate how we view innovations.

51. iushnt

Posts: 3122; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Liked your last sentence..most of them are too much into a particular brand

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