Super AMOLED HD exists, tip industry insiders, big screen smartphones coming from Samsung in the fall
The above sources have said to expect 5-6" Super AMOLED HD smartphones as soon as this fall, and 7" tablets announced by year-end. Some of this ties up nicely with the rumored 5.3" Samsung Galaxy Q handset, and hints at the reality of an Ice Cream Sandwich phone with HD resolution screen that was listed in the recently leaked Samsung roadmap, which could very well be the Nexus Prime.
The sources have clarified that this eventual 720x1280 pixels resolution is not yet achieved by the laser-based LITI production method, but rather with the current Shadow Mask (FMM) lines, and some clever utilization of the PenTile matrix, similar to the Super AMOLED display on the first Samsung Galaxy S. For more info, you can read our in-depth comparison of the RGB and PenTile matrices on Super AMOLED displays - it's a bit disappointing that PenTile will be used to achieve the HD resolution, but we are saving judgement until we see the final units.
The disadvantage of Shadow Mask was that it was pretty expensive, especially for larger AMOLED screens, but through better uniformity and new materials Samsung has managed to bring costs down for Super AMOLED screens to just 20% more than a regular Super-LCD one, and allow for HD ones, which is remarkable.
The new Samsung Mobile Display OLED factory is said to be sitting now on a lot of spare capacity anyway, since HTC moved to LCD due to AMOLED shortages last year, and Nokia isn't selling as much smartphones as expected. The IFA expo in Berlin is fast approaching in just two weeks or so, and it is widely expected that Samsung will be showcasing this new gear at the event.
1. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Let's get this kind of screen on the Wave 3 : D !
2. huh (unregistered)
here comes the bada "maniac" again...........cant u see anything beyond wave?........the world is changing dumb a@@.........be a part of it....
4. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
The world is changing allright, bada is a new Os and the world is changing more and more towards it...
24. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
id rather listen to peter talk about bada than taco talk.. period.
40. NeXoS (Posts: 286; Member since: 03 May 2011)
As tempting as it is to wait for the Wave 3 or Nexus Prime, l think I'm going to buy my gf the SGS II anyway. Why?
1. It's been out since spring time in Asia and Europe, so there already are lots of customs ROMs available for it now.
2. Nexus Prime will be out for Christmas, Google even said, they release their flagship phones at Christmas. That means, just another 3-4mos and the SGS III will be out.
3. I can't make her wait forever, there will ALWAYS be another killer handset 3-4mos away.
Thank you COMPETITION, consumers are winning! Imagine if Apple was still the ONLY player in the game? Thank GOD they are going down!
3. Moo (unregistered)
5. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4746; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Wow Samsung is on a huge roll. If they indeed come out this a phone with THIS type of resolution it would be a marvel. Super AMOLED screens have the best color reproduction & black levels that are unmatched in the industry. Now they will have HD quality resolution, this by far will kill the so called best screen out right now. I may have to look into a phone with this kind of screen. Imagine a 4.3 or 4.5 Super AMOLED with the 720x1280 HD display with a 1.5 to 2.0 GHz quad-core processor running Android Ice Cream Sandwich all with 1 to 2 Gigs of RAM! Wow that would be the ultimate phone PERIOD. What is funny is that those types of phones are now LESS than a year away! I can't WAIT! lol
6. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Imagine that running bada on the Wave 3 : D !
7. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Didn't the wave 2 fail? I'm pretty sure it did lol.
9. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Why you probably won't see a wave phone . After this, I want you to stop posting crap about Bada lol.
12. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Of course i'll se a wave 3. Samsung has even confirmed they will be coming with a S8600 which is the logical folow up from the s8500 wave.
And no the Wave 2 did not fail, i have 3 friends that i know of that use the Wave 2.
15. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
No, point in reading it. I know that Samsung will continue coming with Wave phones, i know that for a fact.
Well what did the article say then ?
33. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4746; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yeah Peter that would be HUGE for Bada!
8. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
It has the best black levels but the worst color reproduction. The AMOLED colors are overly saturated. Nothing look natural on an AMOLED display overly colorful.
10. jasongom (Posts: 3; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)
thats true but isnt that a more of a software thing? Couldnt the colors be adjusted to be more realistic?
20. biggles (Posts: 220; Member since: 15 Oct 2009)
The displays are tuned in software to be oversaturated. Samsung already has their mobile DNIe available for viewing movies on the Galaxy SII with more natural color reproduction. No software in the world can fix the contrast issues with LCD. Super AMOLED FTW!!!
31. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4746; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
That was exactly what I was going to say. Thanks biggles you read my mind! You nailed it! :-)
45. ToneDef (Posts: 39; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
For me personally, the popping colours and contrast is THE biggest selling point that drew me towards Super AMOLED. I can never use a washed-out LCD screen after my Galaxy S. That's also the reason why I have never before considered tablets. However, if Super AMOLED is coming to tablets too, that may well be my next purchase. Can't wait !
11. ilia1986 (unregistered)
lolz Evo.. imagine how pathetic will the iPhone 5 look like when the Nexus Prime\SGS3 will roll out with such a display - and a dual core 1.5+ GHZ processor.
Also, imagine how much arse kicking will we get to do here to the likes of Taco and Miz! :D
"Ooh but iPhone 5 has this magical 3.5mm headphone jack! Apple invented that. And a power button. Apple invented that too. And a screen. That's surely something that Apple invented".
41. gallitoking (Posts: 4717; Member since: 17 May 2011)
19. xenover (Posts: 174; Member since: 27 May 2011)
The sad thing is that after quad-core 720p phones come out there is nothing better to expect I am afraid. Only processor-wise MAYBE.
26. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I don't think so. Remember that in 2004 - 5 everyone said that 3.x P4s are the best there is - and then intel went multi-core.
There is always room for improvement.
39. wumberpeb (Posts: 452; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
I'm not sure anyone ever said that 3.x Ghz P4s were the best thing available, unless you were looking for space heaters for your basement...but we get the point
29. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
there is plenty to expect. bendable phones, holograms, built in GOOD projectors, all sorts of stuff that you or any of us havent thought of yet.
In design testing they are normally 2-5 years ahead of production. Who knows what they have in those labs that they havent told us.
34. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I think that the next iteration of smartphones as we know it would be the belinding of the apps and the OS. Right now it's OS + 1,000,000,000 different apps.
But what is there was a way to integrate the apps into the OS? sorta like FF extensions. They are there when you need em, easily accessible - and when you activate them - you aren't taken from your main screen into a some guy's gui concoction.
25. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
less than a year? from the looks of it, we will be seeing it by christmas :).
If thats true, than the SGS2 is officially too late in america.. well, at least that snapdragon packing hercules that they are sending us :(
14. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Well go out and buy the damn thing already. You're not getting any information over here in this article. So just stop looking for it. You literally post on every single article and it is annoying. I don't really know what else to tell you. Maybe you should go to a site that talks about Bars, or has forums that could give you release dates or specs on the new Bada phones that are coming out. Because you are not finding it here at all.
16. Adam Leonard (unregistered)
I think I'm definitely skipping this current round of qHD superphones (Evo 3d, Photon). Not enough of a change over the last round (Evo, Droid, Epic, etc.). Rather wait another 6 months for an HD display.
17. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)
5.5 inch edge to edge 720p super AMOLED with a quad core chipset... there was a dream that was Rome.
18. xenover (Posts: 174; Member since: 27 May 2011)
My hands are too small for a 4.5" screen.
Who would want a 5-6" phone !?
THIS IS MADNESS!
22. biggles (Posts: 220; Member since: 15 Oct 2009)
Before people get too excited or bent out of shape about 5+" displays, remember that it's a diagonal measurement. If Ice Cream Sandwich is truly ridding the hardware buttons for customized, on-screen buttons, then the overall size of the display must grow vertically to accomodate the button area without impacting the standard viewable area with Android phones. In other words, a 4.3" display today could grow to 5" or more by simply stretching the display down into the area where the buttons typically reside. Won't change the device width, or height for that matter.
27. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
very true. the phones arent growing in size, the bezels are shrinking.
21. biggles (Posts: 220; Member since: 15 Oct 2009)
I'll temper my enthusiasm. While I'm glad to see this stuff coming to market, I'll hold out for real stripe Super AMOLED HD using the LITI process. None of this Pentile Matrix crap.
23. exo2u (unregistered)
Its nice for people who like to play games and watch movies. I wouldnt go over over 5 but i guess well have to see.
I think its almost idiotic to get one as an early adopter though. memory on phones needs to come a long way. i have two hd movies that would wipe out all the memory on any phone so it stupid to have one of those screens (intended for gaming and movies) when memory still blows on smartphones. seems retarded to only have somewhere between 2 and 10 movies on these mobile media centers to be. And since things arent very optimized for hd resolution yet it will make things look worse like a 480p cable source usually looks like sh** on a 1080p tv. Any thoughts?
30. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)
exo2u, yes! We need more storage! The cloud is NOT the answer, especially with the disappearance of unlimited plans.
Mobile devices are becoming a person's only device. I know a few people trying out the one device lifestyle; this is definitely the way of the future.
Storage is important! 32GB Micro SD and 16GB built in is not enough! I'm talking 500GB-1000GB need to be built in. Without adding weight, height, thickness... lots of innovation yet to happen.
Here's my proposal to make Cloud Computing and Cloud Storage viable:
1. 100% coverage everywhere (this is never gonna happen)
2. Tiered data plans for SPEED, not metered data. This means unlimited data for 21Mbps max speed, a plan for 42Mbps max speed, and a plan for 100Mbps max speed.
2 Terabytes of on board storage the size of my thumbnail would free up bandwidth. Imagine all of your digital content within your phone; bandwidth would be used for communication, updates, news, browsing, purchasing, etc. not the transmission and re-transmission of Cloud storage.
The Cloud is going to hurt networks, not protect it, nor make access more affordable for everyone.
Of course, there are great things about the Cloud, but it needs to be optimized.
44. Forsaken77 (Posts: 552; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)
Sounds awesome... if you wanna carry around a desktop in your pocket, lol ;)
I actually can't wait to see Samsung, who has the best LED tv's around, come out with a Super Amoled TV!!! Their mobile dept and their electronics dept need to get together.
35. Phone Lover (unregistered)
I need the 5.3inch Super AMOLED HD Phone NAO!!!
36. andro (unregistered)
Steve Jobs had made a proclamation to all his isheep: "do not believe this lie,APPLE AND APPLE ALONE have a screen with a made up resolution called retina and no other display can possible have better. If they do they must have copied apples future plans"
Some Apples can be rotten and have worms inside........isheep will still eat them anyhow!!
38. Erik (unregistered)
The OLED-Association informed us that Samsung Mobile Display is ready to produce a Amoled display with 326ppi. This means that SMD want to produce a 4.5 inch Super-Amoled-HD Display with 1280x720 pixels. To reach this goal Samsung must switch back to the RGBG Pentile technology.
46. Dimmys (unregistered)
If its going to have a 1240 by 720 pixel screen the gpu has to be REALLY powerful to be able to pump out those pixels. Thats the only thing that worries me... games.. and battery life..
48. Droidguy431 (unregistered)
I think 5.3 is too big of a screen
49. SammyIsGodLike (unregistered)
Samsung is THE king! TVs, Phones, Sexiness...The works :-)
50. KingK (unregistered)
Are you guys going to cry about pentile? Unless you can't read.
Since it's samsung I guess you won't cry as much.
Super AMOLED HD with pentile.
51. Razy (unregistered)
Super Amoled HD or Super Amoled HD Plus?
52. JoePhoto (unregistered)
I have no problem with a 5", (or even 5.3"), screen.
I say bring it on ....
But please a LOUD RINGER, for outdoor use ...
And please a LOUD "FRONT" FACING speaker ...
Would also appreciate a top quality CAMERA with "0" shutter lag, and BRIGHT ZENON STROBE. (brighter and faster than LED to stop action)
And a dedicated switch to silent/vibrate-mode phone, (like iPhone).
Waterproof ??? (gimme all that and it will be my last phone)
Seriously, I have handled the Dell (RIP) Mini and found the size perfect, (and it has a large bizel, IMHO the bizel could be smaller for a smaller size phone).