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Samsung already tweaking TouchWiz to avoid Apple patent claims

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Samsung already tweaking TouchWiz to avoid Apple patent claims
The Samsung GALAXY Nexus was not designed to side-step Apple’s patent claims, but Samsung is already tweaking its TouchWiz Android skin in response to the legal battle with Apple, Samsung’s executive VP of Product Strategy Won-Pyo Hong said at AsiaD.

This puts earlier rumors about Samsung specifically designing the GALAXY Nexus to avoid Apple litigations to rest. “At the time this was not a really heavy issue,” Hong explained why patents were not the hot topic of the fore-runner device for ICS. “I don’t know where that rumor is from,” Hong added.

We can narrow it down to two sources: Russian tech analyst Eldar Murtazin, famous for his recent hit-and-miss record, here obviously missing it. The second one is Yonhap News which reported about Samsung’s own CEO JK Shin speaking about the GALAXY Nexus. They didn't give an exact quote, though, so it seems that this has been an exaggeration on their part as well.

At the same time, though, when asked about its software skin, the TouchWiz UI, Samsung’s executive vaguely confirmed that the company is indeed working on changing it, so that Apple has little reasons to sue. That new TouchWiz is probably coming as TouchWiz 5.0 in 2012.


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posted on 20 Oct 2011, 08:21 1

1. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)


If they sue you again over the S3 and the other revolutionary products...
Google will crush Apple.
I guess Samsung and the rest are giving apple another chance to step aside. That's how I will think of it.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 08:28 7

2. remixfa (Posts: 14049; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Apple will continue to find reasons to sue so it can try to protect its stagnant market share from shrinking. Google and Samsung are just being smart and making it harder for apple. Apple, however is not playing smart since it is knowingly stepping on Samsung's antenna patents that reside in ALL iphones.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 11:57 4

13. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Can you name the antenna patents and how Apple is infringing?

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 12:20 6

15. Leodrade (Posts: 87; Member since: 26 Aug 2011)


It's not completely confirmed, but as a specialist said, Apple could be infringing the following patents

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=DoqbAAAAEBAJ&dq=SELCTING+AN+ANTENNA

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=O1mCAAAAEBAJ&dq=apparatus+and+methods+for+stabilizing+terminal+power+in+a+communication+system

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 16:21 2

20. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Thank you, but my point was that remix keeps spouting off at the mouth with no true understanding of what he's talking about.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 20:17 1

22. remixfa (Posts: 14049; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


lol, if only that were true..

my name would be taco.. or ardent.. or gallito.

but its not. :)

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 19:46 1

21. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


um if i remeber right, iphone market share has not shrunk at all... it is not as much as android, but it is by no means shrinking...

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 20:17 1

23. remixfa (Posts: 14049; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no, i said its stagnant, and they are trying to keep it from shrinking. Apple has barely made any progress at all in market share in a good while now.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 08:41 9

4. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)


It is better to let apple spend his energy money and time to sue everybody so they will have :
- bad reputation
- no electronic components from Samsung
- no new phone - only the same fragile iphone with many features missing
and we can laugh at apple for stupid patents on round corner rectangle, swype to unlock, bouncing edges etc etc lot of little things they succeed to put idiot patents on

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 08:55 6

5. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)


Good Point... Samsung is the good guy here. Still making the a6 chip after all this.
Apple should go on... like remixfa said. But they should lose already.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 09:31 2

9. ChriisM (Posts: 10; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


I really dont think all the sueing will make an impact on their dealing with each other, without samsung apple would be nothing and without apple ,samsung would have alot less cash than they do now, but apple are taking advantage of sammy and they frankly need to be put in there place.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 10:02 2

11. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


I think apple need Samsung a lt more than Samsung needing apple...Samsung gets less than 5% of its revenue from apple...without Samsung apple would not be meeting the demands of the amount of iPhones they sell...good to know that the companies are not letting their emotions taking over the business side....

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 08:38 3

3. Dragonkingamn (Posts: 12; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Drives me crazy when i see an article that apple still uses samsung products. i know its mainly about money but if they wanted to take apple out of the race, why not just stop thier shippent of chips and any other product they have in thier phone. or still use the chips and charge more to where apple will hardly make a profit off each phone sold. thus, they will start losing money cause they still have to advertise and pay the people selling the item.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 09:06 1

6. MEeee (Posts: 279; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Samsung needs to support their employees. Samsung had no choice.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 09:10 2

7. terabyteRouser (Posts: 451; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


It seems simple to cut them off, but the mathematics of the business is simpler. When you have to impress shareholders/investors with revenues and profits, you need to make sure you have the sales numbers. The simpler question is, what firm(s) is/are going to be able to match the demand that Apple is providing Samsung? There are not too many that can do that. So you have to compromise so you can sustain your business while you execute your exit strategy. And I suspect all of these Galaxy S2 and S3s are a crucial part of their exit strategy.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 15:53

19. Dark4o90 (Posts: 205; Member since: 20 Feb 2011)


that's right it's not about who is the good and who is the bad guy. Samsung offers Apple buys.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 09:36 3

10. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


From what I can tell Samsung has no interest in "taking Apple out of the race" using cheap tactics like this... they have tried to reason with Apple and it seems that is not going to happen. As many have pointed out, it is getting closer and closer to the point where iOS and Android are not really competing anymore, seeing as how they are geared towards different audiences. There is absolutely no need for Samsung to eliminate Apple, because there will always be people who just prefer one or the other... and I do not think either could fill the void of the other if one were to be "taken out".

If you look at past patent battles, this is one of the first times (if not the first time) a company has used a patent for the sole purpose of banning another product. Companies have always threatened to ban but it has been to get the attention of the infringing party so that royalties can be arranged.

Samsung is being the "bigger person" here and they recognize that they will do just fine selling their product, even if they have to make a few changes here and there.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 13:46 1

17. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


samsung needs to keep making apple's products so they can steal their ideas. apple is the good guy here.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 15:13 1

18. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


You crack me up.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 09:12

8. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


again, it's a business.. and business is business.. doesnt matter if Apple needs Samsung more than Samsung needs Apple.. the point is they both need each other.. Even if Apple sues Samsung over and over, their business will still stay intact.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 11:00

12. roldefol (Posts: 3084; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Besides, it makes for good ammo against anyone who tries to tear down Android manufacturers to make themself feel better about their iPhone. CPU? Samsung. Screen? LG. Made in China just like everything else.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 12:19 4

14. GoodFella (Posts: 112; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Just get rid of TouchWiz- Problem solved!

Happy Customers
Happy Apple
No More Crappy TouchWiz on such awesome Devices

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 12:29 1

16. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


I don't know, I really enjoy some of the features added to my GT10.1 when it received TouchWiz. I am not a huge fan of the color scheme, but that's why I use a custom ROM which allows me to change that. :)

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 20:19 1

24. remixfa (Posts: 14049; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


touchwiz is one of the best overlays there is.. ok.. well it is now.. lol. filled with tweaks and features and not nearly as processor intensive as Sense which is all about the flashiness.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:20

25. GoodFella (Posts: 112; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


I love Sense! Yes, it does take its toll on the Processor, but it is aesthetically pleasing. I'd take that any day! But...that is just me

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