UPDATED: Moto Krave ZN4 and VU204 coming to Verizon
*UPDATE* The Krave ZN4 will be released on Oct 14th. Pricing is $149 (after $50 rebate) with a 2-year contract, $219 (after $50 rebate) with a 1-year contract, and $349 for those who have fear of commitment.
It looks pretty average, but I will say this. I'm impressed by how far the VZW User Interface has come in terms of looks. That UI looks pretty nice, and when I compare it to the unbelievable dull UI on the RAZR V3m, it makes me want to give verizon a nice pat on the back.
LMAO I remember that UI, it was horrible, the uhh .. bars on the top and bottom were permanently red. Jeez Louise, those were some horrid days.
Why did VZW come out with that retarded UI in the first place? What was so wrong with what the manufactuers were using. Yeah the network is awsome but in some cases the phones have software issues! I keep hearing ppl complain about phones freezing and rebooting! C'mon back in the monochrome screen, no camera, tri-mode days we never had that problem. Its like we take one step forward and 2 steps back. Please get this software working right!
Well, no matter what software is on the phone, its bound to have problems. The thing with the VZW UI is that it would make is easier for corporate store technicians to program or get to the underlying software of the phone. All phones would have similar programming menus, so that each technician wouldn't have to educate themselves on how to program each individual manufacturer menu.
Verizon came out with the UI so when people had to switch from one phone to another due to manufacture defects... Moto 276, 265 etc to an LG or Samsung, they didnt have to call into CS to re-learn a new device. Problem was Moto was the only one who did not embrace this the UI. LG and Samsung had the Standard UI, then you had the ability to customize it with color or choose a completely different UI altogether. The RAZR was Moto putting the VZW UI over their current JAVA UI, which made is slow and you couldnt customize... including exterior screen wallpaper. W755 is a good replacement in terms of UI.
1. Initial programming is done OTA 2. Technicians don't do ANYTHING in store anymore. They plug the phone in and if the computer says there is a problem, they replace it. They have no clue how to actually fix a phone anymore.
Technicians in certain regions of the country do still actually work on phones. Are trained and kept updated on the UI, manual programming, s/w fixes, and actually work on the phones by taking them apart! I don't know where the places are that have a 'computer' they plug it into that tells you if there's a problem or not, but I've never seen one of those.
I've been to VZW stores all over the country in many regions and the Solectron (No...they're NOT employeed by Verizon Wireless) reps have told me they are not allowed to take the phones apart. They have equipment to attempt to troubleshoot the problems with phones, which basically means (simply worded by the poster above) that they hook it up to a computer and replace it if the computer says its bad. This is the in-store option for Verizon. The phones are then sent to a repair facility where people actually know what they are doing and fix (refurbish) the phones to trade out again.
the krave looks pretty nice, actually...
3. vzw fanboy (unregistered)
yea it does! i wonder how it will compare to other vz touchscreen phones?
5. mkl4466 (Posts: 53; Member since: 25 Sep 2008)
Not a big Moto fan (except for the Adventure V750). Can't possibly be any worse than the Glyde, in terms of touchscreen. I've talked to lots of customers that want touchscreen phones (just because they think they are cool, not because they really need html browsing or anything) but they need something durable. The cover over the screen is a good feature for people that would otherwise end up cracking the screen. As for the VU204, at least we will finally have something to replace the w385. Not that the w385 is a bad phone per se, but puh-lease, $119.99 on a new two year plan right now? When a Gleam is only $99.99? Motos are always so crazy overpriced. It'll be nice to have a (hopefully halfway) decent entry level Moto at a reasonable price.
9. T-Money3000 (Posts: 244; Member since: 15 Dec 2007)
Not that i disagree with you about high prices.... but Samsung IS having a sale throughout the different carriers... But you're right. I detest the Glyde yet my sales are high due to low price. I swear I'll see the the customers in the return lines soon........
6. RyanKing (unregistered)
I'm drawn to the Krave its so quirky and unexpected the way its designed with a shield cover its pretty cool and im impressed. Especially how they wired the speaker into the shield without visually seeing any wires.
10. T-Money3000 (Posts: 244; Member since: 15 Dec 2007)
My friend had a similar version from Europe/Asia... out of the USA (lol). Just like MKL4466, not a big moto fan but it IS an awesome design.
I feel like that cover is just one more thing to break off.
does it have an antenna? i hate the voyager's antenna, annoying.
12. vzw fanboy (unregistered)
how is it annoying? its hidden, even when its out its not very long
Internal antenna you retard. That's what they all do now that all service is digital.
You're the retard. He was talking about the Voyager's retractable antenna for the MobileTV service. The Z6tv has an internal one, so my guess is the ZN4 will be the same.
NOTE: This pone does not have Rev A, only regular EVDO rev 0
27. playa, playa (unregistered)
that's stupid, y didn't motorola and verizon makes this phone rev-o capable........a phone like this is pointless if you can't have high speed data transfer on it
28. playa, playa (unregistered)
*I meant to say rev-a capable
15. brayden (unregistered)
hey. does this phone look cool enough to get or should i get a blackberry curve?!?!?!?!? and by the way. . . i really don't get why verizon couldn't just let the manufacturer do all the software and such!!!! but thats over and doe with now as we can clearly see that verizon is being a lot more lenient! please reply so i can know what phone to get on the 10th!!!!!!
16. vzw fanboy (unregistered)
well, it depends if you want a "dumbphone" or blackberry they are very different. i have the voyager and love it but if your a business person i would recommend you getting the blackberry and if you reallyy want to be the hit of the party, wait for the blackberry storm which is all touchscreen except a few hard buttons, unless you like the physical qwerty keyboard then get the curve
Hello everyone i am the inventor of the android OS and i want to know does any one have any questions for me. Please feel free to ask
You are a liar. And Android has nothing to do with the phone.
im sure the inventor of the android has better things to do then take questions of a cell phone forum.
correction this phone has everything to do with android...we see how much you know
lol. and i invented light. i just said. let there be light! and i made light. if you have any questions for me let me know
what does it mean by interactive clear flip
26. The_Epicenter (unregistered)
It means the flip is not only a cover for the touchscreen, but also the earpiece of the phone so you can talk as you would with any other flip phone.
It means you can touch the flip to access applications (although flip is closed) which is same as screen-touch.
This phone is a Motorola. That means CRAP. They will work great for a week then crap the bed. They will quit. And once you start getting into the refurb crap, it gets worse. I have never seen a refurb that didn't suck. Motorola should curl up and die or fire everyone at the top of their leadership and start over. Instead of hiring people with engeneering degrees, they probably hire monkeys with plastic hammers to design their phones.
did you know that like half of the iphone creators were from motorola, when moto mad the razor, that phone was way before its time,in 2001 that phone was king none compare the style the tech, so what apple did was called the creator of the razor and told them we are working on a special project, and well pay you more, so the moto is the mind behind the iphone,
32. Anonymous24 (unregistered)
IT looks nice ,I'l go take a look at it when it comes out , but I am going to wait for the Storm
It's good how Motorola is changing it's designs a bit.
36. jmyh (unregistered)
Well there is one thing to say...sprint has a WAY better UI than Verizon,so does t-mo and att!!! i mean would u look at verizons Blackberry's UI!!! ITS FUGLY!!!!
37. reuvypoo (unregistered)
Verizon doesn't make the UI for Blackberries. The only thing Verizon does to Blackberries is 1) Have a preset theme, which you can CHANGE. 2) Lock it to VZNav. Other than that, it's RIM all the way.
So clueless. I can't believe they let you out of your cage long enough to type on forums. Learn what you're talking about before making a fool of yourself.