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Android L being tested on Nexus 4?

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Android L being tested on Nexus 4?
Just because there is no developer preview version of Android L for the Nexus 4, doesn't mean that those with the device should pack it in after Android 4.4.4. In fact, a pair of Google employees are seemingly taking the Nexus 4 out for a test drive, powered by Lollipops, Lemon Meringue Pie, Lemon Cookies, or whatever the "L" version of Android will truly turn out to be.

This information was discovered on the code.google.com website and includes emails from two different Google employees, both revealing that they are using the Nexus 4 with the "LRW52G" build of Android. For comparison purposes, Android L on the Nexus 5 is build "LRW66E."

Why wouldn't Google want to make the Nexus 4 support Android L? After all, the entry-level Android One handsets will run Android L and the Nexus 4 is higher spec'd with 2GB of RAM and a quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon S4 Pro under the hood. It might not be the Nexus 5 with its quad-core 2.3GHz Snapdragon 800 and 2GB of RAM under the hood, but it should have more than enough zip to run Android L.


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posted on 20 Sep 2014, 19:58 5

1. UglyFrank (Posts: 1601; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


We can pray they continue to support what is still a powerful phone

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 00:57

27. irbaaz (Posts: 163; Member since: 27 Mar 2014)


This is the only one reason I like iPhone , they provide software support till the device is capable of....

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 01:21 16

28. DogeShibe (Posts: 1111; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


You do know that they intentionally slow down your device...forcing you to update to the latest and greatest device.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 04:00

35. bachtiar (Posts: 4; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


Then it means you really should upgrade. I have been using my 4S for 3 years, and upgrading seems like normal. Even tho you're android flagship user, its normal to upgrade after 3 years.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 04:14 1

36. DogeShibe (Posts: 1111; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


Yes 3 years is normal if youre on a flagship.
You see tech is improving day by day.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 07:37

40. Awalker (Posts: 1430; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


Three years? I upgrade every six months.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 12:10

48. killer7D (Posts: 264; Member since: 18 Sep 2014)


I agree :)

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 06:10 2

37. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Where is Jakelee.......

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 06:13 1

38. DogeShibe (Posts: 1111; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


Polishing his trolling skills.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 09:29 2

44. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Lmfao

+1

Hey Jakelee, are you reading this?

It's kinda boring

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 06:58

39. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3722; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Banned. Not just limited. Banned. Started a new account--LiquidSnake. Banned once again. Hopefully, you're next.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 09:14 1

42. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Oh I see.

How did you know that Jakelee was known by Liquid Snake?

Lmao. Banned for what? Speaking the truth. Truth hurts.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 09:51 1

46. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3722; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Everyone knew. It was obvious. Account was started a week ago. Same comments.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 11:22

47. DogeShibe (Posts: 1111; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


www.phonearena.com/user/androtaku

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 12:24 1

49. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Androidtaku gave it away, because he always uses that phrase.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 20:08 3

2. Birds (Posts: 1154; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


I never got why OEMS started using the maximum clock speed of their chipsets as deceitful advertsiment for supposed CPU "power"... 2.3Ghz my third ass cheek... That snapdragon 800 hovers at like 1.3 Ghz for the most part.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 20:40 12

6. tedkord (Posts: 10617; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Because its capable of running at 2.3GHz,and does during intensive tasks. There's nothing deceptive about it.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 20:48 8

7. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


They are advertising how high the clocks can go, by your logic a car that is advertised as being 100bhp doesn't deliver 100bhp all the time and therefore cannot be classified as having 100bhp? I couldn't care less tbh my M8 is always on powersaver which limits the S801 to 1.1GHz and i don't notice any drop in smoothness.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 09:23

43. Birds (Posts: 1154; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


I mean overall, i was just curious and I still am learning this techy stuff. My issue stems from the fact that it seems like it's clocked at 2.3 GHz rather than that's it's max clock speed for intensive tasks and my dumb ass believed that for a very long time LOL. I just wish they'd state the relative clock speed and the max clock speed for heavy tasks. If I'm not mistaken, Intel does that.

And I view it different with a car in relation to a cellphone so that analogy is not how I'd define my logic. I know that a car is not pushed to its limits by a normal consumer, and one can say the same for cellphones to an extent. It's just that people go in with the expectation that a car will get them from point A to B. Not to say they don't care about horse power and foot torque and things of the like... It's just that with cellphones, its a bit different. I used to be the cellphone geek on campus (TBH I know sh*t but I manage, LOL, I'd like to think I know a lot but this place constantly proves me wrong) and people would ask me is such and such phone faster than an iPhone because of the higher reported clock speed. It was hard not to give them a long winded response on no and on how optimization and actual architecture plays a roll. My friend thought the GS5 was just a beastly performer compared to the iPhone 5S because research lead him to think that a quadcore 2.5 Ghz S801 was just a beast compared to apple's A7....on paper of course. I told him that apple's CPU can clock higher than 1.3 ghz for intensive tasks and that the S801 really isn't challenged hard enough to go up to 2.5 Ghz BUT it can. All it did was left the boy confused because he though that cellphones were as linear as their paper specs lead on... That is my issue with the whole clock speed thingy. LOL.

posted on 22 Sep 2014, 09:25 1

53. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


But they work exactly the same way as desktop processors, they scale the frequency depending on the workload. Intel doesn't do that, Intel temporarily boosts the max frequency depending on how many cores are on (Intel Turbo boost), if 1 core is on they can boost it to the max turbo boost frequency, if 2 cores then a slightly lower frequency and so on. Samsung devices are never an indicative of how a SoC can perform as they are often bloated and slow down even the most beastly of SoCs. And there is the throttling factor too, due to thermal constraints in our devices the SoCs can't operate at max frequency because they generate too much heat that triggers the throttling that effectively brings the clocks down so that the processor generates less heat and consumes less power. A phone like the Galaxy S5 which is plastic made retains most of the heat inside and therefore throttles and this is why it can endure much more on the battery in graphics heavy applications than an M8 as the M8 being made of aluminium conducts the heat outside much more easily and barely throttles resulting in much more constant performance but also much more higher battery drain.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 20:58 5

8. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4274; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


That's like saying it's deceitful for car manufacturers to say a car has a top speed of 200 MPH when normally people don't go above 80.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 12:29

50. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Wrong, whenever you swipe or open apps, the Cpu hits maximum point.

Try using app called "Cooltools "

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 21:27 1

13. Planterz (Posts: 2035; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


Birds, you really need learn how processors and kernel governors actually work. CPU-Z isn't going to help you, because viewing live system stats isn't an intensive task. That's why you only see it using one or 2 cores at lower clock speeds so often.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 00:23

25. JC557 (Posts: 1321; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


All processors nowadays ramp up the clocks when needed and those higher clocks can be sustained for practically forever then that's what the processor is rated for. In the worst case scenario they will be throttled down if heat becomes a problem.

It's been done since the era of x86 computing.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 20:20 5

3. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


If the Nexus 4 will be updated to Android L, then the same must goes to:
Sony Xperia Z
Sony Xperia ZL
LG Optimus G
HTC Butterfly

These manufacturers must update these phones to Android L since the Nexus 4 will be updated to Android L. There's no any excuses except BS reasons.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 20:27 15

4. Settings (Posts: 1494; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


You should know by now that OEMs rarely update 2 year old phones for you to buy the new shiny ones.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 20:35 3

5. hurrycanger (Posts: 1557; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)


Well. They will give you BS reasons.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 21:00 6

9. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3722; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Ha. I highly doubt ANY of those phones will see it.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 21:04 3

10. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4274; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Well, there is one excuse. All of their skins take up more system memory than stock Android on the Nexus, so if the memory taken up by L and their skin was too much that would be a good reason to not update it, because it would either be impossible to update it or would dramatically reduce performance. Though I personally think all manufacturers should give the consumer the option to load stock Android on their device rather than their skinned version, so every phone would be a Google Play edition.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 21:49 2

14. Suo.Eno (Posts: 489; Member since: 17 Feb 2013)


ikr... still a sh*tty excuse though. You would have thought that all these OEM "partners" (divided to 2 categorically in my book) learn a thing or 2 by now, get proper devs in, let them have more free rein to trim things down if/when they can't/wont play ball with AOSP or xda devs.

thus slowly I realize the prescience of Android One program now.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 22:33 2

15. vipervoid123 (Posts: 163; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)


You left one more Sony Xperia ZR behind ~

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 00:56

26. irbaaz (Posts: 163; Member since: 27 Mar 2014)


But all these devices are not launched under NEXUS line-up
So stop expecting

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 21:14

11. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


Even though it is just sitting in a drawer, the Nexus 4 is still one of my favorite phones. IMO, it's got better ergonomics than the iPhone 6.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 23:12 2

16. alrightihatepickingusernames (Posts: 474; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)


Considering it's shorter and thicker (rests in palm better) it would be hard to argue that the iPhone 6 is more ergonomic.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 01:36

29. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


Yeah, I got the Nexus 4 out of a drawer and it does fit nicely in the palm. I also like the feel of glass a lot more than the feel of aluminum.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 02:45

31. Planterz (Posts: 2035; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


Time to dust off the old girl, buddy. Load up Carbon, LiquidSmooth, Omni, or SlimKat (or any of a number of ROMs), HellsCore or AK or Franco Kernel, and give new life to an aging warrior.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 21:19 1

12. Planterz (Posts: 2035; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


The Android L preview was released on June 24th, and xda member sykopompos ported it to the Nexus 4 2 weeks later. People have been using L on their N4s for 3 months now. Even if L isn't officially supported by Google on the N4, it'll be ported and built upon by developers anyway.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 23:23

19. JMartin22 (Posts: 1937; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


Full of instability no doubt. I never rush to download a ROM that's dumped from its source as soon as it's announced. It comes with all sorts of broken features, camera/wi-fi/bluetooth/performance/battery instabilities/omissions.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 23:36 2

21. Planterz (Posts: 2035; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


No, not really. Do some effing research before you spew your idiocy. I haven't used it myself (I like Xposed too much), but reports from users love it and assure its performance and stability. Wanna know how I know this? I read reviews and reports instead of posting ignorant assumptions while my head is planted firmly up my anus.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 03:22

32. JMartin22 (Posts: 1937; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


You're taking that post too personally. All system dumps of a new firmware that hasn't been finalized typically has issues on devices whose hardware it hasn't been properly optimized for. Hence why we see missing features or lower longevity ratings. Maybe you should learn to take a moment and think about the garbage you spew instead of making "assumptions" about the other person's intent. I never said these were permanent, but in the first few weeks or months; developers need time to reverse engineer them for a particular device they're trying to emulate it on. Hence why I don't typically recommend rushing to flash the earliest ROM possible.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 03:43

33. Planterz (Posts: 2035; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


So, what you're saying is that you shouldn't try anything new or different? Eat at the same old restaurants, drink the same old beer, watch the same movies over and over?

People that'd flash Android L are experimenters by nature. They'll also have TWRP or CWM and a Nandroid back-up handy in case anything goes awry or they simply don't like it. No harm done.

It's a developer's preview FFS. Anybody that knows about it, much more anybody that'd flash it, knows what that entails. It's not a noobs' preview, it's not an idiots' preview, it's a developer preview. And the reports are that it works great and is suitable for daily use. Many custom kernels have even been updated to work with L.

If people didn't try new ROMs, there'd be no feedback to the devs, and nothing would progress.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 03:59

34. Planterz (Posts: 2035; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


You're also naive if you don't realize that Google is undoubtedly tapped in to everything that's going on. That's why they release previews and kernel sources ahead of official release. Open source means open development.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 13:07

51. JMartin22 (Posts: 1937; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


Blah, blah, Blah. You can name call all you want, that doesn't make your argument anymore proper because in addition to the things I mentioned earlier:

- the preview ROMs weren't intended for commercial use by regular users, only developers.

- just because you might not have experienced any issues on the surface with the firmware on your device, doesn't mean someone else won't with different hardware

- keep in mind, we're talking about regular users, not enthusiasts or developers. Flashing can not only be dangerous and risky if they're not careful, but reverting back can be a hassle and maybe as risky since it's still a technical process and they have to reimplement all their personal data that they lost wiping the device.

That's why I don't support flashing a ROM with leaked or preview software that is intended for developer use only. Or enthusiasts with the technical skills to decipher any potential anomalies in the software. I don't know why you would casually recommend just anyone flashing L though just for the sake of having it first.

posted on 22 Sep 2014, 03:20

52. Planterz (Posts: 2035; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


It's amazing how you restate my point while missing it so spectacularly.

"Regular users", as I said, do not flash developer previews. They do not flash nightlies. They don't even know what the motherf$%ing f#$%k "flashing" f$^@!ing means, you blithering, dumb f$%#k.

Of @#$%ing course you don't support flashing experimental ROMs for ordinary users. But ordinary users don't know what the #@$% we're talking about.

JFC you're dense.

posted on 22 Sep 2014, 11:10 1

54. Planterz (Posts: 2035; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


I was very drunk when I wrote that. I apologize.

posted on 22 Sep 2014, 19:23

55. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3722; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Big of you to admit to that. +1

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 23:14

17. crazymonkey05 (Posts: 178; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)


If the nexus 4 gets L then I prey that my s3 will, that will be a true miracle on samsungs part....it will also stick it to apple :p

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 23:17 5

18. JMartin22 (Posts: 1937; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


You'll get it... through a custom ROM that is.

posted on 20 Sep 2014, 23:32 2

20. crazymonkey05 (Posts: 178; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)


I know costoms will always be there but there is nothing like official

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 00:04 1

22. Planterz (Posts: 2035; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


Official? You're dreaming. Or high or delusional. BTW, the word is "pray". "Prey" refers to hunting, not hopeful anticipations.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 00:04

24. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3722; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


It's pray & while Samsung is great with updating older devices, there's zero chance the S3 will see an official version of L.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 00:04

23. Sharky (Posts: 233; Member since: 24 Jun 2008)


Mine still runs silky smooth. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because I got the 8GB model and living with just that amount of space is tough.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 02:10

30. D.Lamore (Posts: 198; Member since: 15 Aug 2014)


If you want android L on your S3, visit XDA. With android you can do anything.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 09:32

45. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


With custom ROMS.

Like my Z2 and Note3 Exynos, overclocked Cpu and Gpu.

posted on 21 Sep 2014, 08:50 1

41. JunitoNH (Posts: 1656; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


I'm keeping my kitty. I find Android L to be visual step down, and I'm just being kind about it.

posted on 22 Sep 2014, 19:49

56. gigaraga (Posts: 1454; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


Hopefully Samsung has been doing their share of work as well.

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