Samsung scores a 3G patent litigation win against Apple, will seek compensation
posted by Daniel P. / Jun 20, 2012, 9:25 AM
Samsung picked 3G-related patents that could potentially ban the sales of some of Apple's iPhones and iPads, so it can have some leverage in the case Cupertino is waging against it.
Well, Samsung's 3G IP is licensed under the FRAND standard, which precludes a ban from happening, but the court in The Hague did indeed rule that Apple's iPhones and iPads, save for their newest versions, are infringing on Samsung's intellectual property.
Samsung says it will now seek compensation from Apple for the violation of patent EP1188269, or, alternatively, this gives boosts up its negotiating power in the ongoing patent skirmish between the two mobile giants, which have 50% of the lucrative smartphone market between them, and 90% of the profits.
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it may be not much of a compensation if under FRAND. like chump change for apple
posted on Jun 20, 2012, 9:36 AM 2
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iDisAgree, given all of the iDevice users on 3G iDevices over the past 4 years these 'adequate damages' will be iNcAlculAble. Perhaps in the triLLiOns.
posted on Jun 20, 2012, 9:42 AM 5
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Chump change for both Samsung and Apple. Remember Samsung Electronics is just one subsidiary of Samsung, comprising of more than 80 companies. Look at the financial reports. Samsung is 3 times that of Apple; revenue, assets, equity, profit.
posted on Jun 20, 2012, 10:31 AM 4
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Still...Eat it, Apple. how does your own medicine taste???
posted on Jun 20, 2012, 9:38 AM 19
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It's under FRAND -- Apple has been complaining Samsung and Moto wants a king's ransom, which is against the FRAND standard. Also, Apple does not sue under FRAND patents.
posted on Jun 20, 2012, 9:58 AM 1
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And apparently the court disagrees. Samsung was not asking too much, Apple just didn't want to pay. Typical Cupertino move. Apple does not sue over FRAND, they sue over basic geometric shapes and "zero length swipes."
posted on Jun 20, 2012, 11:08 AM 8
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LOL? Apple making use of Samsung's innovation? Samsung copies Apple rather, FRAND patent is just minor where Samsung can throw in anything while the standard is bring created without any innovation. Samsung can at most get just 5 million dollars off this patent. still way lesser than what they pay for their lawyers. Serve Samsung right for not admitting to copycat.
posted on Jun 20, 2012, 9:42 AM 1
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Jealous much? We are always told how "apple doesn't steal, they just innovate". Yet, somehow they have managed to infringe on both Moto and Sammy FRAND patents. Keeping in mind that it IS APPLE that started all of these lawsuits to begin with, not to mention they have tried the hardest to get their competition banned from sale. So please give us all a break.
posted on Jun 20, 2012, 10:00 AM 7
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At least Samsung's patents are something that involves real science and technology; which of its concepts can be measured, quantified, materialised, and grasped, thus cannot be disputed in courts. Half of Apples patents are just pies in the sky and questionable patents. And no, you can't patent rounded corners and wedge shapes.
posted on Jun 20, 2012, 10:47 AM 5
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Lol. I'm starting to feel that Apple will take a nice beating on Samsung who owned 10% of LTE Patents when they release their "LTE capable" iPhone 5.. You better watch out iFans..
posted on Jun 20, 2012, 10:00 AM 6
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