Samsung pushes Tizen to developers at its conference
posted by Alan F. / Oct 30, 2013, 1:14 PM
One analyst sees this all being done in preparation for the day that Tizen is made available, to show developers that Samsung can take care of them even when they start writing for the OS developed by Samsung and Intel. This way, the transition to Tizen from Android will be a smooth one. Samsung is developing Tizen as an OS it can focus on if Google starts punishing Samsung for dominating the Android platform.
Word is that problems with its app store has caused a delay in the launch of a Tizen powered handset. The latest buzz is that we will see a Tizen powered phone launch at CES 2014 in January. Meanwhile, both Sammy and Intel have been talking to code jockeys, trying to get them to commit to Tizen. Because Tizen apps are written in HTML5, a world class browser is being built for the platform.
The lone Tizen talk on the schedule was sparsely attended even though positive features for Tizen were discussed. Alexis Menard and Kenneth Christiansen, two software engineers at Intel, said that the platform is responsive in that it can cover various screen sizes, and also has an API for features like the battery. Ebay says that it is considering building a Tizen powered app because it see the platform eventually being used in smartphones purchased in emerging markets.
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I don't understand this Tizen. If it were developed by Intel. Why is it using arm as chips? should be Intel chips..
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 1:32 PM 2
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Battery? Low power requirement? Efficiency? Intel is also going to manufacture ARM based chips, so maybe that? Not sure though... There are a number of reasons / possibilities.
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 1:40 PM 0
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It isn't that, they want the platform to counter Google's Android because that largely runs on ARM chips. Once Tizen starts ramping, they'll put intel chips behind it which the OS will largely be optimized for. So it's a long term solution. Also because it is expected that Apple will move to the its own processors for all their line up leaving intel to find someone to use their chips other than MS, who honestly are too busy digging a hole somewhere. If KitKat turns out to be good for lower end like Google wants, it might kill Tizen before it even gets off the ground. But without Tizen, Google might never have driven this hard for the mid to low optimization, so can't say there wasn't some good that came out of it. I think though, that Tizen will fail, largely because it has two hardware powers behind it, not software. They both have some ability for software, but they should focus on hardware because they have decades of advantage there. Just like Google is only focusing on software and seems to be doing well. MS tried both and is feeling the hurt far more than they expected. Apple is the only one who has successfully run both sides but that is because they have had a very VERY slow software upgrade cycle. They make a good OS and sit on it for a decade making the hardware behind it then. Then they switch focus to software again after a while instead of just juggling both like MS, Samsung and Intel are prone to do. In other words, they have the brand stability and discipline that in necessary to juggle both where as the others do not.
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 3:37 PM 1
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posted on Oct 30, 2013, 1:39 PM 1
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I'll give you better question based on the article: "Samsung is developing Tizen as an OS it can focus on if Google starts punishing Samsung for dominating the Android platform. " Like HOW, Google can "starts punishing Samsung for dominating the Android platform"??? Or this is just a regular iBS made by PHoneArena? Stupidest one. LOL
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 9:19 PM 0
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Galaxy S5 (T???) will run Tizen!!!!!
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 1:57 PM 0
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No. S5 will be Android. Tizen devices will be different line products.
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 9:24 PM 2
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Samsung can achieve any damn thing if they focus well on it. Sammy made Android popular and vice versa. Tizen can be a reality someday! Its good for us consumers. Really wish windows could be more haste with the development of windowsphone... Not enjoying my Lumia 920 like I should!!
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 2:05 PM 7
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I hope tizen fail
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 2:06 PM 1
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Why? Will u b successful if it fails?
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 3:24 PM 10
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Zero need for Tizen. I can't see any development or interest for this. There are plenty of other alternatives like windows mobile, blackberry (although future is a question mark), ubuntu touch, iOS, and firefox os. Intel has a history of trying to monopolize things (see it's history with Dell) so I want no part of what they are doing. Samsung already has a history of trying and failing with it's own BADA os, so what makes them think this is worthwhile?
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 2:57 PM 1
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So what exactly developers are doing at the Samsung developer conference?
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 4:03 PM 0
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Tizen is bada´s second part. And the second part of the movies are never good. In short, few applications, lousy support from Samsung. ChatOn don´t work in Samsung wave. This app was developed to replace whatsapp in bada. This is all said.
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 5:35 PM 0
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Hmm so if Samsung succeeds what difference will it make? NSA will be replaced by KSA whereever tizen sells and NSA will be paying KSA to get same data that it gets now from elsewhere ... so more competition for selling user data ...
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 6:07 PM 0
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"The main focus of the conference was to push developers to make Android apps unique to Samsung models." Which is what Google doesn't want due to poor user experience. "his way, the transition to Tizen from Android will be a smooth one. Samsung is developing Tizen as an OS it can focus on if Google starts punishing Samsung for dominating the Android platform. " Google doesn't care if they are successful. What really is happening, is that Samsung already is making their own ecosystem, where you can make a samsung account and get samsung apps on their Android phones. They want to show Android the door and control everything like apple does. They want to be free of Android Problem is, they suck at it already.
posted on Oct 30, 2013, 6:10 PM 0
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So their focus is to create their own Samsung world. They want to drag their clients into buying everything with their brand. We saw several failures of this strategy eg. Apple with Macintosh in early 90s, Sony in late 90s (Memory Stick instead of SD, their own plugs, their own mp3 - atrac, etc.) and only one success. The only success in this strategy had Apple with their iStuff and it was only because of Jobs's revolutionary ideas and his unique ability to sell them to the masses (please don't start the topic whether those where his ideas - that's not the point of what I'm trying to say). I don't think samsung has people like Jobs, therefore I think, the further they go with separating their devices from the rest of the world, the worse their sellings will be.
posted on Oct 31, 2013, 9:58 AM 0
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