Report: Apple iPhone 8 sensor will handle facial recognition while lying flat on a desk

Report: Apple iPhone 8 sensor will handle facial recognition while lying flat on a desk
The bottom line seems pretty clear. Neither Apple nor Samsung will be first to the market place with a fingerprint scanner that will be embedded under the front display. In fact, at the moment, that accomplishment will apparently be first credited to Sharp and its Aquos S2 device. Samsung is relying on the use of its rear-facing fingerprint buttons for biometric control, and it seems that Apple will be hoping that its 3D scanning facial recognition system will be able to unlock phones and verify identity. The main question is whether the financial institutions partnering with Apple on Apple Pay will feel comfortable trusting a new system to keep identity theft down.

Last week, a major code break found in Apple's HomePad smart speaker revealed that the facial recognition system nicknamed "Pearl" will be able to do its thing even while the new handset is lying flat on a table. This means that an iPhone 8 user won't have to pick the phone off of a table and aim the sensor at the user's eyes. Code spotted in the leak contains several references to the word "resting."

Earlier this year, KGI securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo called the front-facing camera on the Apple iPhone 8 "revolutionary," noting that the component would be employed for face recognition. That same month, it was disclosed that Apple had purchased Israeli tech firm RealFace. The latter's facial recognition system is said to be so sensitive that it can tell apart the faces belonging to identical twins.

Kuo, who has an admirable record predicting the new features expected to land on new iPhone models, has been all along calling for Apple to replace Touch ID with face recognition for the tenth anniversary premium iPhone. In addition to handling the facial recognition chores, the revolutionary front facing snapper will also be able to handle depth of field data in order to create the desired blur (or bokeh) look using a dedicated infrared transmitter and receiver.

Code found on Apple's HomePod reveals that the facial recognition system for the iPhone 8 will work even while the phone is lying flat on a table

Code found on Apple's HomePod reveals that the facial recognition system for the iPhone 8 will work even while the phone is lying flat on a table


source: iHelpBR (translated) via AppleInsider

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48 Comments

1. Supah

Posts: 692; Member since: Mar 08, 2017

This is another BS courageous move by Apple 2016 3.5mm 2017 Fingerprint Scanner BUT gained the revolutionary iDroopy eyelid 2018 Speaker 2019 Camera 2020 Screen 2021 WiFi 2022 5G 2023 Battery 2024 Thunderbolt Port 2025 CPU Hope they fixed the lag, freeze and crash issues

2. kiko007

Posts: 7380; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

"gained the revolutionary iDroopy eyelid" You Android zealots sure are terrible at humour. Seriously, an autistic pigeon could come up with better banter than "iDroopy". You might wanna up your vocab a bit before trying your hand at trolling, son.

4. maherk

Posts: 6532; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Way to generalize a whole fanbase. I'd love it if you just ONCE in your life show you're displeasure with what some of the Apple fanboys say on this site. But typical you, It's a must for you to attack Android trolls, and turn your blind eye to the trolls on the Apple ship.

8. kiko007

Posts: 7380; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Zealots defines the entire Android fanbase? Because you literally just made that claim... not me fam.

6. Supah

Posts: 692; Member since: Mar 08, 2017

Don't get mad when I pull a you on you

9. kiko007

Posts: 7380; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

"Don't get mad when I pull a you on you" You gonna pull up a thesaurus by any chance?

10. Supah

Posts: 692; Member since: Mar 08, 2017

"You gonna pull up a thesaurus by any chance?" Translation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDc7M4tQKDA

12. kiko007

Posts: 7380; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Damn, even your memes are low quality. Trolling is an art form, it takes dedication. You're just not cut out for it tbh, maybe try working at your local Zaxby's instead? Something tells me that's your calling in life. Look at me... out here giving life advice to needy youth with their awful temperaments.

14. Supah

Posts: 692; Member since: Mar 08, 2017

"Damn, even your memes are low quality. Trolling is an art form, it takes dedication. You're just not cut out for it tbh, maybe try working at your local Zaxby's instead? Something tells me that's your calling in life. Look at me... out here giving life advice to needy children with awful temperaments." Translation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r-wTQb2SDQ

16. kiko007

Posts: 7380; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Better. Still potato quality, but you've gotta start somewhere am I right? Now if we could just get more variety... spice things up. I mean, those angry nerd memes are gonna get boring eventually, so venture into new avenues! Take risks! Explore new frontiers! Get that V card gone! Anything is possible my boy... you just gotta work harder! (But for real... Zaxby's would probably hire you. Maybe. )

31. cnour

Posts: 2305; Member since: Sep 11, 2014

They lag even in humour.

41. dazed1

Posts: 769; Member since: Jul 28, 2015

Not a single apple critic, without you out in full force defending your iGod masters.

28. cnour

Posts: 2305; Member since: Sep 11, 2014

Very old one, try another and new one.

3. submar

Posts: 713; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

3D facial recognition will be 1000x better than iris scanning in a sudden, bcos Apple uses it.

13. gehrig

Posts: 423; Member since: Apr 17, 2014

Because Apple's version won't be able to be fooled by a simple photo ;)

43. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1337; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

I doubt that. When release will hear and see someone on You Tube showing how to fool the new facial rec system using a photo. Nothing, Nothing is hack proof. Someone wants it bad enough they will get it.

47. BradyCrack

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 29, 2015

I've heard many things about it being a 3D facial scanner, so think of the security of the iris scanner. But with the speed and consistency of the 2D facial recognition scanner.

5. maherk

Posts: 6532; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

I already do that when I use the IRIS scanner and my S8 is lying flat on a table, so what's different with this one?

7. Supah

Posts: 692; Member since: Mar 08, 2017

Nothing but Alan F wouldn't know that

36. HansP

Posts: 542; Member since: Oct 16, 2011

The biggest difference would be, facial recognition is less secure. Apple allowing facial recognition to work at that distance with a 5-8 megapixel mobile camera means the phone is virtually unlocked for anybody to use.

38. cmdacos

Posts: 3656; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Super but maherk was talking about iris scanner. Two different things.

46. BradyCrack

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 29, 2015

I think they mean using it in more angles, so it'll work beyond 90 degrees.

48. darkkjedii

Posts: 30498; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Nothing at all.

11. darkkjedii

Posts: 30498; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Split view, slide over, picture in picture, themes, new UI look, pencil support, and the ability to simultaneously use the front and rear cameras Apple.

20. iushnt

Posts: 3020; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

What's picture in picture?

42. submar

Posts: 713; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

video playing while doing other things

15. mikehunta727 unregistered

This Face ID is shaping up to be pretty awesome from everything that I have heard about it. If it's more accurate and just as fast if not faster than Touch ID currently, this feature is gonna be a smashing must have feature on every device

39. cmdacos

Posts: 3656; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

It's great! Border agents just have to play you by holding the phone up to your face and saying 'is this your phone?' Boop, unlocked. 'Nevermind, we can check if it's yours ourselves'

44. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1337; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Wow. Did not think of that one - Good point ( I guess it applies to the S8 as well if you setup iris scanning as the default method ) I can totally see being held hostage and force by you captures to reveal the contents off your device by them just holding it up to your face. Apple must have thought of this scenario ?

27. xfire99

Posts: 1202; Member since: Mar 14, 2012

When iphone 8 release we will see alot of peoples complains about torticollis by 3d facial recognition. :phttps://youtu.be/jytQQvsL3P8?t=13m28s A photo by using a phone?

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