Nokia 8 benchmark suggests Android Pie update could be just around the corner

Well... With just one model released and with no successor or other smartphone in the horizon you would excuse me to think of Essential more as a project or experiment than a proper OEM. So Sony still is the only OEM, other than Google, that can brag about excellent software support. The disappointment here are Nokia and Motorola, who employ stripped down versions of Android and still manage to stay behind Sony in update schedule.

While I'm certainly not a fan of the botched smartphone that is the Essential Phone, gotta give props where props are due. They've been great at updating the ONE phone that they have. Xiamoi has also been good at updates and support. HMD isn't a disappointment as they are still updating their phones quicker than most, (even updating their non-Android One smartphones quicker than their Android One phones in terms of security updates) including Motorola. Sony, at least, is getting the updates right, because their sales in the smartphone space are abysmal.

The fact that Sony sales are abysmal means less resources for their developers, so they should be even more applauded.

Sony has resources to pull from its other compartments, so nothing really to applaud in that regard. It's great that they are doing so well with updates, don't get me wrong, but it's also great how well HMD has been handling updates.

And HMD has endless Chinese money and a huge Chinese market, so there is nothing to applaud in that regard. If companies worked as you say, Sony would starve their other branches, fill the world with Sony Mobile advertising and the job would be done. It clearly doesn't work this way and in reality Sony Mobile has to work on extremely tight budgets. If you put everything together they are really the most amazing company in the Android ecosystem in terms of software support

"Endless Chinese money..." What?? From where? Especially when they had to get money from the outside to further continue their smartphone endeavors. It's to be applauded because they are barely two years old and updating their phones better than most, and selling phones in greater amounts than many Android stalwarts, including Sony. Companies do work that way, but it's clearly not a sustainable business practice, which is why companies eventually resort to making cuts when the drain on resources becomes too much. They will use that money to sustain their mobile business until it's no longer feasible to do so. That's why they are taking a loss on smartphones but still going on with them, because they have other resources to sustain them. But trust me, if the losses begin to drag the entire company down, Sony will cut out their mobile phone division. As far as "most amazing company in the Android ecosystem in terms of software support", that's a no, especially when you have Xiamoi out here still updating smartphones from 2014.

How about you address me directly as opposed to taking cheap potshots if you have an issue with my comment. Or do you think that statement only works when you say it? Google has dropped the ball with Android One. Facts. Google has also set the parameters as to when Android Enterprise smartphones are to be updated with the latest security patch. Also facts. HMD has has the 6.1, 6.1 Plus, 7 Plus and 7.1 updated to Pie, with more Pie updates coming for their other smartphones (with an “S”. Essential and never will be able to say that. Their botched smartphone is an unacceptable excuse for a smartphone, and the least that they can do is keep the one phone they will ever have updated on time) so the attacking of Nokia by you needs to stop, especially since Nokia has nothing to do with smartphone hardware or software.

How has Google dropped the ball when it's the OEMs job to get it updated? Oh wait, that's just you shirking the blame. Essential updated their phone right around the same time the Pixel phones were updated, so stop with the lies and excuses. Taking potshots at Essential isn't going to change anything other than make you look like a tool. Nokia hasn't been updating their phones consistently and you want to blame everyone else except the ones at fault.

Googles promise of Android One was faster updates. That hasn’t happened with one Android One smartphone. Take security updates, for example. HMD has been releasing those quicker to its non-Android One smartphones, while the security updates for all Android One smartphones for practically every Android One using OEM has been arriving later. That’s on Google. The Essential Phone is a perfect example of this. This is just you giving Google a pass for dropping the ball because you favor them, so stop the shenanigans. What I said about Essential isn’t a potshot, it’s a fact. But you taking constant shots at and constantly complaining about BlackBerry, Huawei and Nokia (HMD) makes you look exactly like the “tool” you claim I look like. Google has lost focus on the consistency of Android One with regards with what it’s supposed to be about, and you want to place blame on everyone except the ones who created it. For the record, it’s awesome that OEM’s take the time to iron out the kinks of any OS update to their non-Android One smartphones. This is exactly what’s going on with the Nokia 8 now. That way, you don’t have a buggy mess like that Pixels and the Essential Phone. “First” clearly doesn’t mean best, as Google and Essential have proven, but you’ll never admit that because it goes against your agenda here.

You're a hypocrite. Once before when I pointed out that a Nokia device getting the October security update in November was extremely late, you kept going on about some nonsense that it was on time based on Google enterprise bs. Now you are changing your tune after I put you on the spot. No, it's on the OEMs. The update is out for OEMs to push to their devices, so stop making excuses and blaming Essential. You are the one who continues to take potshots, but I'm the one in the wrong for pointing out things that are questionable with some OEMs. I call out a lot of OEMs, Apple and Samsung included so get over it. Now you're just pathetic, taking a potshot just because Nokia is late.

You’re a liar. The Nokia branded device didn’t get the October Security update in November, they got it at the end of October. Once again, you’re changing the facts to suit your false narrative. Google does set the parameters for all of its Android Enterprise Ready smartphones, and going by what Google says, Android Enterprise Ready devices have 90 days to apply a security patch. That’s not being hypocritical, that’s me posting a FACT. Google also made a promise concerning Android One to OEM’s that use it, and they have dropped the ball with it, and it’s the only real benefit to having an Android One smartphone. More FACTS. But since it goes against your agenda and since I’m putting you on the spot about, you’re deflecting in an effort to save Googles face, as usual. HMD has been applying security updates to their non-Android One smartphones at a faster pace than any Android One smartphone, from any OEM using Android One. More FACTS. The Nokia 7 Plus, 6.1, 6.1 Plus and 7.1 have all also been updated to Pie. Essential updating their ONE handset faster means nothing when Essential has been facing software issues ever since updating to Pie, and the Pixel line has faced a plethora of issues since it’s inception. Your continued deflection from these issues while you complain about OEM’s that you don’t favor just marks you as more of a pathetic troll than you usually are. I’d rather HMD update their entire smartphone and forget about using Android One since it serves no benefit to HMD, and HMD has been updating it’s smartphones faster and with less issues before they started using Android One. You don’t call out ANY OEM that you favor for their mishaps, you only troll the ones you don’t like or that I favor, and that’s pathetic.