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The random 128 GB iPhone 6 Plus crash and reboot might be a hardware problem, tip insiders

The random 128 GB iPhone 6 Plus crash and reboot might be a hardware problem, tip insiders
Apple's issues with the iPhone 6 Plus might not stop with #bendgate, as the random freeze and reboot problem with the 128 GB version seems to be rooted in the hardware itself, rather than the memory management software. Industry sources are pointing out that there might be a problem with the memory controller.

The issue seems to be that Apple isn't using the most stable internal storage memory, but the intricately dense triple-level cell (TLC) NAND flash in the 128 GB version. TLC flash can store much more information than single-level cell (SLC) or a multi-level cell (MLC) solid-state flash, but is more volatile, and more prone to errors. It is more affordable, though, and that might be the reason Apple went with it for its most memorable version of the 6 Plus, instead of MLC, like on most other iDevices.

There are plenty of reports for unstable read performance of Samsung SSDs equipped with said TLC controller, so if that is indeed the reason for the freezing and random reboots of the 128 GB iPhone 6 Plus, those units, or the entire batch, might have to be recalled by Apple. For now, customers who complain about such problems, are getting their handsets replaced in Apple Stores, but the industry insiders think this might become a wider issue, as the 6 Plus has proved way more popular than everyone, including Apple, expected it to be.

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posted on 04 Nov 2014, 06:48 2

1. gehrig (Posts: 301; Member since: 17 Apr 2014)


It's probably not hardware. Even if it is, it can probably fixed with iOS 8.1.1.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 06:55 20

5. FAKEPERSONA (unregistered)


sounds like an iFan...???

EDIT:
By that LOGIC, if i remove the battery from any device, a software update will circumvent the problem...??? (problem i.e "power on")

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 07:01 22

6. Finalflash (Posts: 3206; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


I don't think he knows what the difference between hardware and software is. Fixing a hardware problem with a software fix is just funny.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 08:12

14. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 724; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


Technically, it could be done that way, if a hardware limitation could be bypassed by a software upgrade. In theory, of course!

I wonder what good it will do to replace the device with another sporting the same component?

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 19:22

48. lyndon420 (Posts: 4555; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Maybe he lives in the Matrix.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 07:46 1

12. GeekOB (Posts: 17; Member since: 26 Jun 2014)


oh c'mon!! that was sarcasm dumbo..

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 07:58

13. FAKEPERSONA (unregistered)


may be, yeah, who knows...

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 08:13 2

15. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 724; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


Badly delivered...

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 09:26 2

23. Finalflash (Posts: 3206; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


Terribly delivered, either that or the fact that all these issues iPhones are having are being solved with repeated updates which break more things makes it too realistic.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 07:33 6

10. Astoni (Posts: 649; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


Who the f*ck likes this post?!, a Hardware issue can not be fixed in a software update.. hence the name HARDWARE.. it means its physical

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 10:16

30. DillWeed (Posts: 149; Member since: 14 Mar 2014)


yes it can, depending if there is either redundancy or circumvrntion means. In this case it would be possible to halve the storage and only accept the packet if the two match. I f course this would be out of the question in Apples case, but it's not impossible.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 12:54 5

39. aphrophyre (Posts: 24; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


That is what we call a WORKAROUND, it is not a FIX.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 08:36 3

17. darkkjedii (Posts: 22025; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


No bro, it needs to be replaced.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 06:53

2. RobotMan (Posts: 145; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


What !

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 06:54 1

3. tiara6918 (Posts: 2065; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)


This is why it's better to wait a few weeks or months after a device's release in the market. First batch always has issues

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 06:55 11

4. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


Cheap TLCs, in a premium priced package.
Yup, seems about right.

posted on 05 Nov 2014, 16:34

50. almostdone (Posts: 231; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)


Typical of Apple to use cheap memory to rip off their customers.

It only cost them $$'s for128GB instead of their base 16GB model yet they charge $$$'s for the privelage. I'm not talking about subsidised contract prices. Yet they use cheap TLC memory? Disgraceful.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 07:04 7

7. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


Let this be a lesson for everyone. You get what you pay for. You need to spend $2000 on a premium phone; not $1000.

John B.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 07:11

8. nlbates66 (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)


"There are plenty of reports for unstable read performance of Samsung SSDs equipped with said TLC controller"

unstable read performance !=crashing and rebooting.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 07:21 3

9. TheMoltenD (Posts: 109; Member since: 13 Jul 2014)


PA changed that to make it seem like its a common problem original source says: low read performance on Samsung SSD.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 10:54 1

34. Jommick (Posts: 221; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)


Glad I got the 250 GB 840 EVO - MLC storage is better storage

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 07:43 2

11. darkkjedii (Posts: 22025; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Replace em Apple, and get the other ones.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 08:31 2

16. tokuzumi (Posts: 985; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


Sounds like the TLC needs more TLC

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 08:59 1

18. fzacek (Posts: 2486; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


Cheap, cheap, cheap...

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 09:00 1

19. Tritinum (Posts: 471; Member since: 06 May 2014)


facing the same issue with my ipad mini 2 just randomly crashes and reboots

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 10:00 2

27. UglyFrank (Posts: 1722; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


Yeah but that happened to all Apple device when iOS 7 came out

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 09:04 3

20. BattleBrat (Posts: 1476; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


I had a brand new iPod Touch 4th gen 64 gig. It developed a Bluetooth problem. I also heard of problems with some MacBooks. Then I realized what Apple was. Apple makes the case, the housing as beautiful as possible, but inside they use the cheapest to lowest bidder crap. But hey Apple fans, don't worry! at least Apple's profit margins are healthy :-)

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 09:09 2

21. darkkjedii (Posts: 22025; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


That's exactly how space shuttles, rockets, and most cars are built ;)

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 09:14 1

22. BattleBrat (Posts: 1476; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


The difference is, most of the components for those things are designed by the car company, space program, etc. The contractors simply manufacture it. Apple basically chose stuff off the shelf and they chose the cheapest stuff they could.

posted on 04 Nov 2014, 09:57 1

25. darkkjedii (Posts: 22025; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Cmon BB, really?

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