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Samsung already testing Exynos chipset with custom CPU cores for the Galaxy S7?

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Samsung already testing Exynos chipset with custom CPU cores for the Galaxy S7?
In early April, it was brought to our attention that Samsung doesn't plan to rely on stock ARM cores to keep up with mobile processor evolution. The technological giant is designing custom CPU cores codenamed Mongoose, which will employ ARMv8 architecture. Rumors suggest the silicon is being worked on since 2011 and is currently deep in testing. We already got to learn elaborate details, such as the core's reported maximum clock speed (2.3GHz) and preliminary benchmark result that posted 45% better single-core performance than the Exynos 7420 in the Galaxy S6. This means the new CPU could bring the typical doubling of performance over a year, which has become the norm in mobile application processors.

Today, we get to learn that the latest development tools for ARM cores, which include support for ARM Cortex (A17, A72) cores, also come with support for a certain Samsung Exynos M1 core, which we currently know under the codename Mongoose. This confirms that Samsung is hard at work at new CPU cores for its smart products, and goes to suggest that the giant's software development partners are already toying with it as well.

The Exynos 7420-powered Samsung Galaxy S6 & S6 edge have been on the market for less than a month now, but Samsung is already developing custom processing tech for flagship mobile products. Coming up with the next-gen Exynos chip so early means Samsung clearly has plans to incorporate it into the Galaxy S6's successor. Mass production of the chip could begin in 9 to 12 months from now, which sounds appropriate if a Galaxy S7 is to be introduced in the usual March-April time-frame.

It is rumored that the Exynos M1 will feature Heterogeneous System Architecture, employing GPU stream processors for general purpose processing. We have good reason to assume Samsung will be following this path, as the company is a member of the HSA Foundation, which unites the industry's leading silicon slingers - AMD, ARM, Imagination Technologies, MediaTek, Texas Instruments, Samsung Electronics and Qualcomm® - around a common approach to heterogeneous processing.


source: KitGuru

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posted on 27 Apr 2015, 03:49 9

1. neela_akaash (Posts: 1118; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)


Go sammy go...

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 03:52 4

2. neela_akaash (Posts: 1118; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)


I just can't imagine what will be technology that will be seen in the hands of my grand children i.e. 40 yrs from now.

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 04:33 1

12. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


think of it as how dead arcade machines are right now

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 04:42

14. Canaan (Posts: 331; Member since: 25 May 2014)


They'll be cyborgs with implants that will allow their minds access to the web; assuming the technological singularity does come to pass in 2045 as many computer experts predict.

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 03:53

3. seven7dust (unregistered)


HSA but lacks software Expproblem and developers support typical android OEM problem

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 04:26

11. vincelongman (Posts: 4164; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Its not like iOS supports HSA

So its not an Android problem
Its because there's no ARM hardware that supports HSA

Once there's hardware, the software support will come
After all, most the HSA Foundation are (or were) heavily involved in Android
E.g.
Founders:
AMD, ARM, Samsung, Qualcomm, MediaTek, Imagination and Texas Instruments
Promoters:
LG
Supporters:
Linaro
Contributors:
Broadcom, Huawei, Marvell, Sony, Toshiba,...

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 11:18

23. seven7dust (unregistered)


but iO.S supports metal APIs ,which is a pre-cursor to HSA in some ways since it allows a few compute tasks via Gpu. kinda like DirectX 12.

Apple is better at implemeting this stuff , Android needs to wait on google for O.S level implemetation, Google is not too good with regards to new GPU technologies.

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 16:21

26. vincelongman (Posts: 4164; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Nope, Metal is totally different to HSA

Metal is a low-level graphics API
It basically allows game devs to take full advantage of the hardware

Android supports OpenSL ES 3.1, which is the latest version of OpenSL ES
OpenSL ES 3.1 is the pre-cursor to Vulkan
Vulkan is very similar to Metal and DirectX 12, in fact its based off AMD's Mantle

They are both on par at implemeting this stuff
Google always adds support for new GPU technologies quickly, same as Appple

HSA basically to do with getting different types of processers to work together efficiently as a team (includes GPUs, CPUs, DSPs, FPGAs, ...)
The closest pre-cursor to HSA is OpenCL
OpenCL is also basically to do with getting different types of processers to work together efficiently as a team (includes GPUs, CPUs, DSPs, FPGAs, ...)

Lollipop supports OpenCL 2.0, the latest version of OpenCL at the time of Lollipop's release, 2.1 was only released this March
iOS has no official support for OpenCL

Metal/Vulkan are low-level versions of OpenGL ES/DirectX 11
HSA in a way is a low-level version of OpenCL

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 03:53 3

4. Tritinum (Posts: 471; Member since: 06 May 2014)


now this is innovation

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 03:53 1

5. seven7dust (unregistered)


Expertise

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 04:00 4

6. johanbiff (Posts: 388; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


maybe already in the Note 5? I hope so :D

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 05:17

15. FluffyBled (Posts: 509; Member since: 10 Sep 2014)


Dang ... if that's so .. I'm f*cking getting one!

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 04:01 2

7. 99nights (Posts: 1152; Member since: 10 Mar 2015)


I think i like the design of the s6 better.

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 04:09 2

9. Max_Boost (Posts: 101; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


Yeah, I'll stick with the S6 Edge better.

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 09:26

20. ibend (Posts: 3862; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


calm down, thats just concept render from guy named hasan.. nothing to do with real S7

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 04:03 9

8. Cicero (Posts: 861; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)


This is why Samsung S6 have big numbers price. Samsung invest (and release on market) in R&D. My respects Samsung!

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 04:19 5

10. HomerS (Posts: 174; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


"doubling of performance over a year, which has become the norm in mobile application processors."

Really? Can you show us this doubling of performance from the S600 to S801 and then to S810? Because i cant see it.

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 05:18 2

16. FluffyBled (Posts: 509; Member since: 10 Sep 2014)


Well ... you know there are always exceptions :P!

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 05:27 1

17. HomerS (Posts: 174; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


Of course, i forgot about the exceptions :)

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 09:28

21. ibend (Posts: 3862; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


and dont forget about ..., A6, A7, A8,....

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 04:34

13. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


too soon? (maybe not)

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 05:53 1

18. ChowMein (Posts: 76; Member since: 01 Jan 2015)


lets hope they don't shrink the battery capacity to "match" last yrs battery life

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 05:57

19. GeekMovement (Posts: 2155; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)


Not a very attractive S7 concept render imo. S6/S6 Edge looks much better.

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 09:28

22. ibend (Posts: 3862; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


blame hasan then :D

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 12:23 1

24. lakki369 (Posts: 89; Member since: 10 Apr 2015)


That's called forward thinking which Qualcomm doesen't had and ruined the 810...!!!

posted on 27 Apr 2015, 13:27

25. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


The GS7 better not look like a fat and chunky Suck T C phone like those renders portray. O.o

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