Girl tells her BF that his Samsung Galaxy S II is s*** after getting Blown Away by Nokia Lumia 800
As we've told you, there are those iOS and Android users who believe that the whole promotion is a scam, while others point out that if some Android users knew their phone well, they could easily beat Windows Phone at some of the tasks. But let's head back to the Venkateswara Universityu campus in New Delhi where a young man came armed with a Samsung Galaxy S II. This model is considered the greatest Android smartphone produced to date by many, and for its battle against the Nokia Lumia 800 both phones had to snap a picture and upload it to Facebook.
You can check the video below to see what happened, but we feel compelled to tell you that the Nokia Lumia 800 won the contest. So while the young man had to confess on video that his Samsung Galaxy S II was "Blown Away by Nokia Lumia," his girl friend didn't take it as well as he did. After asking him if they could leave a few times, she seemed embarrassed by what she might have considered a wimpy performance by the Android device. This was a female not impressed with those 3000+ scores that the Samsung Galaxy S II has scored on the Quadrant benchmark test. Her comment to her boyfriend? "Your phone is a worthless piece of s***". Not too many people have characterized the Samsung Galaxy S II in this way, but we see a Nokia Lumia 800 in someone's future. Ironically, just the other day Samsung complained that the Nokia campaign was unethical.
source: NokiaIndia via WMPoweruser
1. gonecrazi (Posts: 2; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
first but anyway , yea i really need to take a pic and upload it in less then 20 secs. how bout my samsung galaxy s2 does everything that windows does but oh yea our market place has a bout a billion more apps. so there ya go microsoft.
14. Skidro13 (Posts: 51; Member since: 27 Jul 2010)
Thats the same bad excuse iPhone users had about two years ago when they realized android phones were better.
165. mohdr (Posts: 4; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
i have an s2.
i've just done the same exact thing in 11 seonds.
and a total of 6 touches including screen unlock.
these tests are basically stupid.
you can arrange your phone in such a way to suits you best.
168. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if you really wanted to, you can put the camera icon on your lock screen and swype right into the camera, take the pic, and send it to FB. With the right phone.. like an SGS2 or one of the new HTC One devices, you can probably get it all done in 4-8 secs at worst like that.
Its all about knowing to have it set up.
172. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5426; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the Droid Razr has that functionality so i made that point too. i've been using Instagram though so i've got to do an unlock. xD
169. Mandroid (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
Unless it's an iphone. Then you get what the almighty apple deems you to be entitled to.
195. NexusKoolaid (Posts: 242; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
@mohdr: Bingo! And when challengers are denied the chance to preconfigure their phones like MSoft/Nokia have done, of course they're going to win. The whole 'smoked' campaign is a farce.
17. Penny (Posts: 903; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
So you're saying that after you are done taking longer than the Windows Phone to upload your photo, you are going to waste even more time on your phone by playing with a billion apps? Isn't the point of this whole campaign to prove that WP7 is a better OS for daily use because it wastes less of your time?
20. rd_nest (Posts: 435; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
Let me get this straight -- you don't want apps?
95. apocalypsebc (Posts: 146; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)
Sounds like they want apps but not all the apps in the market place. Does that make since or you still don't realize that your phone will never be able to download every app in the market place and when Windows Phone has been out as long as apple and droid they will have the same total of apps in the market place maybe even more with how much faster they are growing compared to the others. Sounds to me like they were saying you can get thing done faster and have time to socialize in the real world and do more important things!
30. Penny (Posts: 903; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
You're right for asking that question based on my previous comment, so let me explain.
I like apps, and I would prefer that my app marketplace have all of the popular ones and anything else that would be useful to me. The way I personally use my phone, I actually do not use a lot of apps. Almost everything that I need to do on a daily basis with my phone -- calls, texts, e-mail, facebook, calendar, camera, web browser, search engine, navigation/gps -- comes pretty well integrated with my stock WP7 phone. The only additional apps that I use every day are a couple of news apps and one word game.
So I'm not your typical smartphone user in that the number of apps in the marketplace is not the first thing I look for. WP7 works well for me because everything I want to do, I can do efficiently and spend less time on my phone. That I think is something that can appeal to many users (although maybe not those that want to be on their phones all day long).
Anyway, it is not as if the windows phone marketplace is absent of apps. There are over 80,000, and most of the major ones are accounted for. So if you want to say that you choose Android because of it's 450,000+ apps, and that 80,000+ is too little for you, you're damn right I'm going to tell you that you waste too much time on your phone.
59. _PHug_ (Posts: 377; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)
Sure, I'll take the advice of "you waste too much time on your phone" from the person who just wrote a book in the comments section.
Talk about wasting time.
72. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if u type more than 10 words a minute, what penny wrote doesnt take but a small amount of time.. even on a smartphone... well one with good auto correction like ICS or WP7.
I think the point is that the number of apps in the market doesnt really matter. The only thing that matters is that you have access to the apps you want. 500k apps? How many have you used? Most people probably download 10-50 apps in the life of their phone. And most users download the same basic apps as others and a few more personal apps. so what are you doing with those other 499950 apps? nothing.
If the SGS2 lost, then it lost. No matter how good the OS, its nothing without a knowledgeable user. Was it the SGS2's fault, or the dudes fault? Or was it his challenger's fault for knowing exactly what was coming next?
The only thing i know for sure is that chick needs to not be so petty and judgmental. If the SGS2 is "shyt", then whip out your phone and prove it to be better. If not, smile and get on with your life.
86. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5426; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
lololol. you're saying the same things i was when Smoked by Windows Phone first popped up. xD
158. Spariant (Posts: 8; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
well said, a smartphone is only as smart as its user. this whole campaign looks rigged. WP person is well prepared for the very type of contest he has planned. i guess an app dedicated to clicking photo and sharing on facebook will have wasted no time and a person who regularly does that, will sure have installed that kind of app. how about asking the invitee to offer a task for competing, for a change.
And also the dude wasted too much time focussing and framing his GF for a photo. :)
85. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5426; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
having used both Android (Versions 1.6-4.0) and WP7.5 i'll tell you that there's significant advantages to both platforms but Android definitely has me by the nads with their app support. you all know i'm a firm believer in the concept of trade-offs and WP does not do enough that's significantly better than what Android can do to justify giving up that precious app support, especially now that i'm living the high life with 4.0.3 on my Razr w/ Nova Launcher (which is hardly different at all than the stock Moto ICS launcher but Nova doesn't crash like the stock launcher does in this leaked build) you do bring up a good point about Microsoft's service integration on WP7, it's simply amazing and i love how simplistic it is, i really can't stress enough how much that i think WP7+ at least deserves a fair shake by most people especially if it'll get more app developers to sign on but i will say that power user critics like myself will simply not be impressed due to it's limited hardware, it does cause a significant amount of lag and bugs in the overall experience but Android evolved from the very same thing and we know WP will too and soon so if you're at the crossroads of choosing a platform for the very first time it might be a good idea to go ahead and side with WP early so you're not exposed to Android or iOS's immense app selection and also since Android's significant advantage of Adobe Flash Support will be done away with next year with the step up to Jelly Bean but when you're an Android Vet it's really tough to step down because the WP Marketplace lacks a lot of apps that Android users like myself have grown accustomed to using and have now become essential. i was blown away by how lacking the WP Marketplace was so as much as i may want to when Apollo devices roll around i'll probably stick with Android.
135. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol, and thats the thing, for a new smartphone user, they will never know what apps they are missing. for a power user its going to be obvious. Thats why I keep saying that WP7 is going to take more iOS sales than Android sales for first time buyers. As we saw in the ATT blurb, reps tend to push first time buyers to iOS for its ease of use. Once they become comfortable with WP7, they will probably push that more for first timers. I know I do.
Unless WP8/apollo is a total dud, which i doubt, we should start seeing WP7/8 apps take off by christmas. They are already getting close to the 100k mark, so its not like its lacking.. its just lacking a few major items that are hot right now like Draw something.
149. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5426; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
and Youtube. xD
another thing i forgot to mention is that more apps in the Android Market are free and when you're trying to get up a game collection as decent as what you have on Android you're gonna be spending some $$$.
166. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
thats a very valid point. that also makes android adopters less likely to switch that iOS adopters. good example is my wife. shes so-so with android but refused to switch to WP7 or anything else because she would have to pay for apps she gets for free already through android like Angry Birds n such. In her words "I dont do nearly the crazy things you do with phones, but ill be damned if im going to go to a nicer looking phone just to have to pay for apps that i already have for free".
171. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5426; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
lolololol. she's got it. i need to make my mom realize that so she'll upgrade to a Galaxy Nexus from her Charge than to the upcoming iPhone like she wants to. xD
142. Penny (Posts: 903; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
That's a fair sentiment King, that power users are more likely to be attracted to Android than WP7. Also there is no arguing that Android has a greater app selection, and if you are attached to what Android offers you, there is little reason to make you want to switch.
I don't think there are a significant amount of bugs or lag in the system due to less than stellar hardware (in fact I know this because I've been using WP7 for about 9 months now, and that has never been the case). The only time the lack of hardware has such impact is when you are playing graphically advanced games, especially those that may not be as optimized as the XBOX Live ones.
I agree that WP7 is a good platform for smartphone beginners because of ease of use and integration of services. My point is that it is just as good for non-beginners IF they're usage of the device will be anything like mine (which I described in Comment #30). I am fairly technically savvy and interested in mobile and computer tech, but that doesn't mean I have a ton of time to spend on my phone. That's just the bottom line for me.
152. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5426; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
actually it's pretty bad. i don't know about the newer generation models like the Radar and the Lumias but on Verizon's only offering the Trophy, it can't even browse the web and play Spotify without lagging. i know because i have it.
there's very few Android/iOS users like that. maybe Blackberry users. for a lot of people the primary reason for having a smartphone is for access to the platform's app selections. the smartphone really took off when Apple's App Store became more populated. smartphones are more toy today than productivity tools.
64. riku242244 (Posts: 4; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
so you are saying that uploading photo on facebook is not waste of time....lol
119. Mozarrt (Posts: 285; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
Apps still suck compared to Windows Phone, hardly any good looking apps in the Android catalogue.
126. asimo (Posts: 41; Member since: 05 Jan 2012)
lol i didn't know there were Ms fanboys out there, or is it just you?
128. SleepingOz (Posts: 2009; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
HAHAHAHAHA!! happens only in your dreams!
124. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
These NOKIA fans and users are JEALOUS!
127. bbblader (Posts: 520; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
when you have a billion apps and use them everyday then tell me about the apps part
untill then don't bring up the billion apps crap
143. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4487; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Anyway it looks like a fake advertisement!
150. evolutionqy7 (Posts: 38; Member since: 27 May 2011)
Thats exactly what each iPhone owner was saying to Android owners a year or two ago :)
176. rnk.khch (Posts: 86; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Samsung Galaxy S2 may be able to do the same thing and in fact all phones may be able to the same thing, but the whole point is with Windows Phone, it is easy to do it in a very little time. With Android, you need to be a computer scientist to figure out how to do it (as Steve Ballmer once mentioned). And with iphone, it will take for ever to find the app from among a sea of icons. :)
3. gonecrazi (Posts: 2; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
one more thing, i would have smoked that challenge cause we can upload to facebook right by tapping on the pic. but i guess microsoft has to try something to get their system on the market.
4. spinelessrabbit (Posts: 35; Member since: 28 Dec 2010)
gs2 is a dual core while the lumia is only a single core
11. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
That dual core sure didn't help in this challenge. It's not all about specs.
21. Penny (Posts: 903; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Your reputation precedes you taco. Unfortunate that you got multiple thumbs down for an objective comment.
22. protozeloz (Posts: 5188; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
well he ruins his 11th post with the BS of his 13th post so he earns what he gets I guess
79. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
it wasnt an objective comment. It was a hidden swipe at his perceived benefits of iOS over android.
He tries the "objective comment" thing for a day or 2 and then slips back into ubertroll. he does this all the time. almost all of his "objective comments" however are just hidden swipes if you look close enough. its not like hes that good at hiding it either. I have a feeling that these moments of forced niceness are always preceded by a warning letter from PA about conduct. lol
26. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 817; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
I thumbed you up because you are right. Dual core/quad core doesn't have much effect on quite a bit. It's the way that the phone is built.
You can't compare across the mobile OS based on specs.
(oh, and I also thumbed you up because I'm just naturally a nice guy ;)
31. tedkord (Posts: 3409; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
That's only because, like Microsoft, Nokia is cherry picking the challenge, and setting their phone up ahead of time to do it in one step.
I could set the lock screen on my Thunderbolt to show the price of Xerox and ExxonMobil stocks, then challenge a Lumia to pull up those prices. I only have to turn the screen on, I win by a mile, even if I downclock my CPU to 400mhz. So what? It's rigged, and means nothing.
33. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
If that's what you want to believe
37. Penny (Posts: 903; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Microsoft does choose challenges in its favor, but that doesn't mean it's rigged, especially with the photo upload challenge.
By default on a stock WP7 phone, this is how you would do the photo upload challenge:
- Hold down the hardware camera button for 1-2 seconds to open the camera, even if the phone is locked and the screen is off.
- Take a picture using the hardware camera button or by tapping on the screen
- Open the contextual menu for the photo you just took (hold the photo for 1 second or tap the three dots at the bottom of the picture)
- Click share to facebook
Again, this is not a customized workaround or me setting up my phone ahead of time; this is just how Windows Phone 7 allows you to perform the function by default.
47. protozeloz (Posts: 5188; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
MS tool cues from other smartphone OS's so certain things would be done faster on their device. they made the OS quite social integrated. for starters
57. Whateverman (Posts: 3064; Member since: 17 May 2009)
How could the test NOT be rigged if they base the test on what phone the other guy has? If they want it to be a fair access net of their product, they should pick the test randomly before they know what phone they are going against.
And is it me, or did that video look like just plain ol' bad acting. Not saying WP7 devices aren't smoking phones, but this video doesn't look real.
74. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
click camera icon
hit share to facebook.
136. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yup, u can tag before sending if u want.
141. Penny (Posts: 903; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Well if we are being this simplistic, let me rephrase the WP7 steps:
press camera button
hit share to facebook
153. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5426; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
with newer Android phones like my Razr the steps are the same but accomplished quicker because the camera takes no time to open because of the beefier hardware and can upload faster than most WP devices because of the 4mbps+ upload speeds because of 4G LTE. with the right phone and good enough knowledge of what you're doing a Windows Phone can certainly be beaten here.
1. open camera from lock screen.
2. take picture. (instantly with ICS)
3. hit share to Facebook.
done in two seconds typically with a single 8mp Shot.
89. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5426; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it's not rigged but even Microsoft warns Employees to NOT perform certain challenges against certain phones because they will almost certainly lose. the "Smoked by Windows Phone" challenges are only Marketing Schemes that makes Windows Phones SEEM to be overall better devices but it really only highlights specific, compelling features of the Platform like any Marketing Campaign does. Apple or Google can easily turn around and do the same thing and get some points across themselves. i don't agree with this scheme. it's only embarrassing to the people that spend their hard earned cash on actual good phones and creates opportunities for exploitation. if i were to do a challenge i would insist that he/she issued the challenge before they even knew what phone i had, against phones like the Droid Razr and the Galaxy S II armed by skilled users i'd say there's a good 60% chance by my rough estimate that the Windows Phone would lose.
69. quesoesgrande (Posts: 192; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Finally! Taco said something worth listening to! And hes right; windows phone doesnt need quad cores because its built to run with less. Android, however, needs multiple cores because of the way its built. This is coming from an android user, by the way.
75. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yes, android was built to give equal preference to all activites running, where iOS and WP7 give full preference to scrolling and do not multitask much or at all so there is less processor and memory being used up at any given time.
There was a nice article about it on the site quite a while ago that detailed it out for everyone.
118. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Just wait for ICS then ule see
Dualcore kikcks in..
125. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
O really is that why the 4s has DC and its
faster at loading by over 3 seconds. Running on 5.0.1 with along14.4 hsdp. Weirdo! I have the IP4 and IP4s
96. 0o0blackstar0o0 (Posts: 85; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
Its advertisement and i can take a picture and have it uploaded to Facebook on my galaxy note in less than 10 seconds :S dunno what they are doing should not take 20 seconds ...
98. haseebzahid (Posts: 1720; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
This tells u really lack the knowledge for dual/single core VS OS functionality
5. shamataa (Posts: 197; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
why is this done in India and not with a more broader people like China where alot of people uses the GS 2?