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Galaxy S7 and LG G5 won't treat the memory card as internal storage, despite Marshmallow

Galaxy S7 and LG G5 won't treat the memory card as internal storage, despite Marshmallow

Google's Android 6.0 Marshmallow update may not be waxing drastic changes in the interface of the world's most popular mobile OS, but it doesn't have to. Most manufacturers are slapping their own overlay on it anyway, so Google decided to concentrate on radical changes under the hood, like the Doze battery-sipping mode, the ability to swap even the stock dialer and messaging apps for a third-party one, as well as the so-called "Adaptive Storage."

The Adoptable Storage feature of Marshmallow has the ability to merge the internal memory of a phone with the external storage in the form of a microSD card (if the device has such a memory slot), and treat the resulting cumulative memory as a one total partition. In theory, this would prevent user confusion as to how much exactly free space they have in total on the phone, instead of trying to calculate microSD storage and internal storage separately, or asking themselves what are these things in general.

Now, here comes the surprise - both the Galaxy S7 and LG G5 don't support this Adoptable Storage feature, despite shipping with Marshmallow on board. Thus, they'll treat the microSD card as a separate entity, instead of lumping it together with the internal memory in the storage menu. Here is Samsung's argumentation behind this decision, and we'd wager to say LG could have meant something similar as well:


Samsung decided not to use the Android Marshmallow “adoptable storage” model. We believe that our users want a microSD card to transfer files between their phone and other devices (laptop, tablet, etc), especially the photos and videos they shoot with the camera.

With adoptable storage, first of all the card may be erased the first time it is inserted into the device. This behavior may be unexpected by many users and we don’t want our users to lose their files. Second, once Marshmallow starts using a card for adoptable storage, it cannot be read by other devices, so it loses this ability to be used for file transfer. Adoptable Storage is also primarily targeted towards emerging markets where devices with only 4-8GB of onboard storage are common. We think that our model of using microSD for mass storage is more in-line with our owner’s desires and expectations for how microSD should behave.


After all, Samsung also decided that it is too early to force the obscure USB Type-C connector on the potentially millions of Galaxy S7 and S7 edge buyers, assuming that the negatives outweigh the advantages, at least at this point in time, so it's not surprising that it is not taking all of the options that Google provided with Marshmallow at face value either, what do you think?

source: AA

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posted on 24 Feb 2016, 06:09 26

1. kent-gaga (Posts: 546; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


can they just make an option for the users to choose?
i;m not bashing, just curious because options is the best option here, right?

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 06:18 12

4. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3342; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Android 6 already gives this choice by default (how you like to use the sd card) but I do understand their reasoning for removing that option entirely. A big downside of using sd cards as adaptive storage is when apps are installed on the sd card part, they tend to slow down dramatically.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 06:25 6

8. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Use class 12 and above.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 06:27 13

9. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


You know how dumb people are right? If someone uses that model and experiences incompatibility of card with other devices or unexpected formatting of card, guess what will they do?

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 06:30

10. engineer-1701d (unregistered)


they will have to have it if not they will be most likely looking at a lawsuit, because if they only sell the 32 gig in the us and a few others with the os on top your looking at minus 10 gig. making it about 22gig left.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 06:35 16

18. Clars123 (Posts: 916; Member since: 16 Mar 2015)


that's the problem..people don't want to pay for high speed, quality cards....Samsung would rather do this than let them utilise cheap cards,slow down the devices then bitch about lag
Same with LG

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 06:37 10

20. Bm888 (Posts: 516; Member since: 06 Jul 2015)


Samsung's decision ..for me is satisfactory. .this time they listened to their own loyalists. .those who are of contrary opinion , mostly are wannabes

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 06:38 1

21. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Samsung have sd cards which are expensive, where people won't pay. Stupid, then complain.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 06:42 10

22. NoToFanboys (Posts: 2615; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


People here expects everyone to be tech nerds, get used to it Tyrion.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 06:52 5

25. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3342; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


You would have to buy SanDisk Extreme Pro for instance, which is UHS-II and on paper comes close to S7 internal memory speeds. But doesn't come close to real life performance.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 07:18

30. phonearenarocks (Posts: 513; Member since: 26 Mar 2015)


You know certain Samsung TVs which have built in support to record videos to external devices conduct performance tests and determine device as compatible or not.

Samsung could have easily done this and added the Adoptive memory feature.

Samsung surely had a chance to make more incredible phone that no phone released this year would have been able to catch up but they missed the trick, with a number of other features as well.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 07:21 6

31. elitewolverine (Posts: 5192; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


No phone actually supports UHS-2. Go watch the Note 4 use a 100MB/s card, which if you read the package says with adapter only, and watch the note 4 never get above ~40MB/s

Those are s**t speeds when my 30buck Lumia with internal storage can hit 300-350MB/s.

Until phones can actually use that speed, adaptive storage will make a phone slower and slower. Then you are relying on so many factors of sdcard reliability.

I like that Samsung has choose this path, I do wish they did more of a thing like windows phone but as long as devices ship with 32GB im good.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 07:23 6

32. elitewolverine (Posts: 5192; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


They will freaking call their carrier...I know because I deal with it daily. The IQ of users is about 70, in tech speak.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 07:35 10

38. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


No slow down noticed on my moto x play using a high speed sd card.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 07:36 14

39. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


I have a 80/100 mb speed card and using test app on my moto x play its run at this speed so not my fault if samsung use crappy sd card reader.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 07:52 1

41. izim1 (Posts: 1102; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


What?

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 07:53 9

42. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Its already included in android 6.0 the system test the memory card to make sure its not slow and fast enuf.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:02 9

45. Ordinary (Posts: 2442; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


Lol Samsung is literally the king of memory speed in both microsds and SSDs

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:02 10

46. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Well unless you are a total moron you cant make this mistake.
When you insert the sd card the system ask you what type you want to use.
If you select adopt as internal its clearly say its will erase the SD completely. Its also ask to confirm and say again its will erase the SD.

So sorry but no need to be a tech nerds to read and if you dont know what Erase mean well... dont use a smartphone and go hide...

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:04 10

47. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Not a single client called for any moto device using this feature.
Not a single one deleted is sd by error.

Its very well made and tell you several time its will erase the sim if put at internal memory.

So tired of all those apologist thats say crap to cover Shamesung.
LG not better if they do the same crap on this.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:07 3

49. maherk (Posts: 4615; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Oh dear God, he is back to his clients and my store stories, but this time with a little bit of twist, Moto is replacing HTC lmao

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:07 3

50. joeytaylor (Posts: 864; Member since: 28 Feb 2015)


Not only that but it makes the card unusable for any other device

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:15 9

52. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


The features in android 6.0 is made to make it possible to extend your phone memory.

What he say is as the OS ect will use nearly 10 gb of the 32 gb they may have a lawsuit. This features would evade this and as its very well made there is no excuses.

The system test the sd speed if its not enuf and if its slow its wont activate the mode.

When you choose the internal memory option its will clearly state the sd card will be erased and when you press its confirm a second time.

So basically there is no way to make a mistake unless you cant read lol..

So Samsung take the clients for fools and decided to use a slower sd card reader to save money most probably same for LG.

you know save 0.10$ a phone make this 10-20 million phone... thats a lots of money saved.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:24 2

54. DoggyDangerous (Posts: 984; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)


yeah, I agree. This is a good decision from LG and Samsung

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:27 14

55. Shocky (unregistered)


What the hell is that supposed to mean? There is no loyalty when it comes to smartphone purchases, if they don't deliver what you need you buy something else, simple as that.

How can you be a wannabe loyalist? that's probably the stupidest thing I read today.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:29 14

56. Shocky (unregistered)


Tech nerds? no, just be sensible enough to use Google and confirm something before making silly claims.

It's not too much to ask.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:30 1

57. DoggyDangerous (Posts: 984; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)


Please stop considering general public as a common sense nerds. Even I sometime made stupid move which is unintentional, but cause a lot of headache. Please stop arguing and defending silly reasons. Please act like a mature person. Anyone can do such a mistake anytime without being a total moron. So, I support the decision of LG and samesung

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:32 12

58. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Can you stop been an ass maherk?

Do you need me to give you screenshot to prove how well this features is made thats no one can be dumb enuf to make a mistake unless they cant read?

So tired of morons who dont bring nothing to the arguments beside insult.

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:36 12

59. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Next time Maherk unless you have something to bring to the convo just shut up.

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/109134/p/1449,9582

Read and learn!

posted on 24 Feb 2016, 08:37 10

60. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Go read and learn :https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/109134/p/1449,9582

Cant make the mistake unless you cant read.

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