The Note 9 won't have in-display finger scanner as screen protectors mess it up

The Note 9 won't have in-display finger scanner as screen protectors mess it up
While there is already a phone on the market with in-display scanner, the Vivo X20 Plus UD, and it does come with OLED display, Samsung's efforts in the field have had to deal with its current curved Infinity Display design, which has been challenging, to say the least. If an optical reader of this type was embedded under the display, it had issues with the OLED display's semi-transparency, and hence reliability. A more orthodox capacitive type reader, on the other side, could be made relatively transparent, but has to be mounted on top of the display, which presented issues with durability.

Thus, an in-display finger scanner on the Galaxy Note 9 is now out of the question, reports reputed analyst Ming-Chi Kuo from KGI, due to the aforementioned issues that would preclude Samsung from producing it in mass quantities for the summer. Mr Kuo also adds that additional "technological difficulties" also include sensitivity issues with screen protectors - something that Vivo also struggled with - as well as problems with consistency in different weather conditions.

"There are advantages and disadvantages of both optical and capacitive or ultrasonic types, so I do not think there is any technology that can be commercialized right now," tipped one industry insider. "Next year, Samsung Electronics I think will succeed to mount it."

Long story short, the Note 9 will come with the good ol' rear-mounted finger scanner, probably just the one you are seeing on the S9+. Yes, it is apparently still working with a variety of suppliers, as well as the technology's creators from Synaptics, to introduce a fingerprint reader embedded in the display itself, but the setup will be mastered next year at the earliest, for the Galaxy S10

A half- or even whole-screen finger scanner is the current Holy Grail of the in-display types, but that technology is still in its nascence, as you can see from our Apex concept hands-on above, and Vivo will eventually materialize the handset much later in the year, when the Note 9 should already be hitting the conveyor belts en masse.


source: 9to5Mac

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28 Comments

1. ahmadkun

Posts: 553; Member since: May 02, 2016

Yeah we are excited for Under screen FPS, But i like how samsung takes time to deliver it as better as it would be.. and the must important thing is you can put it anywhere or you cam take time developing it but DONT TAKE IT AWAY ! ..we need it !

2. DolmioMan

Posts: 301; Member since: Jan 08, 2018

Pretty much how Apple handles things, you wait until the technology ready or something better pops up then you don’t go through as many transitions which can alienate users.

7. toukale

Posts: 617; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

@DolmioMan - Lol at Samsung taking its time to get things right! Boy, I needed this laugh. They are the king of shipping half-baked products just to check a box. Remember all those half baked fps until Again Apple gave them the template. Don't make me laugh.

9. toosmoove

Posts: 914; Member since: Sep 28, 2017

Half baked FPS?

11. Panzer

Posts: 280; Member since: May 13, 2016

You mean AuthenTec gave Apple the template. If you recall correctly the Nexus 6 had a dimple that is where the AuthenTec sensor was to placed but Apple put more cash on the table.

17. toukale

Posts: 617; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

Oh we can play that game since just about everything those companies put out are someone else work they just bought. I am sure you can make a list while at it.

28. ahmadkun

Posts: 553; Member since: May 02, 2016

When apple takes time to bring something like they take forever.. and sometimes the bring it and let people pay more to get it like ( fast charger) and sometimes they bring it exactly the same ( wireless charger) and sometimes the worst ( homepod ) don't compare boy !

5. Cat97

Posts: 1804; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

Actually Samsung takes the time but doesn't deliver. Look at the S9 face recognition. Half-assed. And did it really need any time to move the fingerprint sensor below the camera ? They wasted a year only for this.

10. toosmoove

Posts: 914; Member since: Sep 28, 2017

There's a difference between a wasted year & doing something your way. Did last years FPS halt sales? Also, have you personally tested the fave recognition on the S9?

25. AxelFoley unregistered

Bashing a feature that you've never seen, touched, used, or tried in person and before it is in a consumers hands. Gotta get the propaganda out early.

3. Clars123

Posts: 1076; Member since: Mar 16, 2015

Off course there are people who will whine and bitch about this because they want new tech for 'new tech's' sake..yet if samsung put it out and it didnt work well they'd rage too. In any case I belive this more of a case of save it for the anniversary phone

4. youssef44

Posts: 547; Member since: Apr 29, 2014

That's really bad !! We need new and useful technologies! We don't want the ugly screen protectors!!

6. youssef44

Posts: 547; Member since: Apr 29, 2014

I think I will go to Vivo Apex instead of Note 9 because of its fingerprint scanner!

12. toosmoove

Posts: 914; Member since: Sep 28, 2017

"That's really bad !! We need new and useful technologies! We don't want the ugly screen protectors!!" 2 asinine statements with one stone. Not sure if that's what you were going for but you nailed it.

14. youssef44

Posts: 547; Member since: Apr 29, 2014

Ha Ha ha !! I'm using smartphones since more than 9 years and I've never used any screen protectors! Simply because they are ugly!

19. toosmoove

Posts: 914; Member since: Sep 28, 2017

Ditto. No screen protector on my Note 7, S7E or Note 8. Dropped them all, not a scratch. I'm against screen protectors as well, but the need to use a screen protector is not a valid reason why not to buy a phone.

15. youssef44

Posts: 547; Member since: Apr 29, 2014

New: when I can unlock my phone by a touch on screen! Useful: I can unlock my phone at anytime! Any place! Any whether! Even if it's on the table and I can't look on it because when I do something else!

20. toosmoove

Posts: 914; Member since: Sep 28, 2017

All of that is useful, but not at the expense of coming with glitches.

22. youssef44

Posts: 547; Member since: Apr 29, 2014

Me too I don't want it with glitches but I they don't want to make it with Note9 because Samsung already selling well and waiting another year will give them money! This is the marketing!

8. Sammy_DEVIL737

Posts: 1529; Member since: Nov 28, 2016

Take your time Samsung make it perfect instead of releasing it as beta like thing. And in the meantime please improve iris scanner in the Note 9 so that it can recognise eyes even faster & in any lighting conditions.

13. Landon

Posts: 1242; Member since: May 07, 2015

Since my Note 5 is still running great, I might just hold out until the Note 10. I want that embedded fingerprint scanner on the front!

24. AxelFoley unregistered

Wait, you have an Android / Samsung from 3 and a half years ago and it is still running great? That's not possible. I heard Samsung/Android had an automatic kill switch after two years. Now I have to question the comments from a million people on this site.

26. Landon

Posts: 1242; Member since: May 07, 2015

I know right? Haha but to be accurate, it's only 2-1/2 years old, and I got a replacement about 8 months ago (I believe it was refurbished) since some text messages weren't coming in. Yes phones that are currently out are faster and overall better than mine, but they are by a pretty small margin. I guarantee that I can unlock my phone via fingerprint faster than anyone using face unlock on an iPhone X.

18. toosmoove

Posts: 914; Member since: Sep 28, 2017

"Samsung's efforts in the field have had to deal with its current curved Infinity Display design, which has been challenging, to say the least." Expound, Phone Arena.

21. AustinPaul

Posts: 152; Member since: Dec 13, 2011

The S9s are very solid phones and I think a tasteful update to the S8s. Nothing mind blowing, but that's more a testament to how good the S8 already is. I agree with the others who say they are holding back for what should be 'revolutionary' features for the X/10.

23. Jrod99

Posts: 708; Member since: Jan 15, 2016

With their options don’t think it’s really a big deal. Just center on back should be good.

27. jasrockett

Posts: 120; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Ditch the curved screen for god sake

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