Analyst: Nokia Lumia 1020 and Sony Xperia Z both off to a slow start in the states
posted by Alan F. / Jul 29, 2013, 8:20 PM
According to Power's checks of T-Mobile locations, reps in the stores are recommending the Sony Xperia Z third after the Samsung Galaxy S4 and the Apple iPhone 5. As a result, the analyst says that the phone is recommended at T-Mobile about as often as the HTC One is. On the other hand, the reps at AT&T have nothing but nice things to say about the Nokia Lumia 1020. But according to those who toil for the nation's second largest carrier, the high price of the camera-centric model ($299.99 on contract) plus the hassle of learning a whole new OS (Windows Phone 8), are two of the factors keeping sales down. At AT&T retail stores, only a few have sold out of the device. At some locations, Power and his analysts were the first people to inquire about the model. But with the phone just launching on Friday, the Baird analyst admits that his survey is "Obviously an early read," and to him it "still feels like an uphill battle for Nokia and Windows."
source: Barron's via BGR
- Display 4.5" 768 x 1280 pixels
- Camera 41 MP / 1.2 MP front
- Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Plus, Dual-core, 1500 MHz
- Storage 32 GB
- Battery 2000 mAh(13.3h 3G talk time)
Sony Xperia Z OS: Android 5.1 Lollipop, 5.0 Lollipop, 4.4.4, 4.4.2, 4.3, 4.2.2, 4.1.2 View Full specs
- Display 5.0" 1080 x 1920 pixels
- Camera 13.1 MP / 2.2 MP front
- Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro, Quad-core, 1500 MHz
- Storage 16 GB + microSDHC
- Battery 2330 mAh(14h 3G talk time)
Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010
"plus the hassle of learning a whole new OS (Windows Phone 8), are two of the factors keeping sales down." Memo to Elop & Nokia board of directors: Take note - your decision to go exclusively WP is costing you sales. Sammy managed to sell 20 m of the Note II at a retail price similar to that of the L1020, so it isn't price that is holding back sales of the L1020.
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 8:24 PM 8
Posts: 3617; Member since: Jan 19, 2011
As i repeated down below Doug, this is a story about Nokia AND Sony starting with slow sales. Sony HAS Android. It is not a street paved with Gold.
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 11:35 PM 1
Posts: 26; Member since: Jul 20, 2013
well for sony its quite ok because xperia z was launched in january ,8 months ago so now there are more better options available in android as.sony put xperia z late in states and xperia z already sold well and good in other countries, but this lumia 1020 is brand new and still.its having a slow start so nokia shud really do something as already samsung has taken a huge lead again this quarter or year
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 11:46 PM 6
Posts: 79; Member since: Jun 20, 2012
so what...nokia will still sell millions of these phones..
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 8:25 PM 1
Posts: 1451; Member since: Mar 28, 2013
so if nokia sells 1 million phones, you consider that as "selling millions" ? the sales of all nokia WP8 phones are bad when compared to the rest of the competition.
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 8:31 PM 10
Posts: 863; Member since: Mar 07, 2013
It doesnt matter how many they sell when you compare to other companies - They might be very low compared to Samsung, but they need to achieve two things first - raise the userbase of windows phone (so that it gains enough attention for developers to develop more apps for it) and go back to profitability. Both of these 2 things require an increase in sales every quarter, but not necessarily shooting up to Samsung's sales numbers in a short period of time. The problem with most people here, they dont welcome more choices, having another 2 or 3 OS at most in addition to iOS and Android in the smartphone market isnt a bad thing. You can choose whatever you like, but it doesnt mean you can force your opinions on others.
posted on Jul 30, 2013, 12:09 AM 3
Posts: 1233; Member since: Jan 24, 2012
We welcome choices if its better than available earlier in market... So NO-NO for WP.. Infact we are eagerly waiting for Ubuntu and sail-fish OS... If they again turned to be like another WP, then again NO-NO for them too...
posted on Jul 30, 2013, 12:24 AM 3
Posts: 1345; Member since: Nov 12, 2011
I'll be the first to admit that I'm a Samsung fanboi and I can tel you that the Galaxy s4 zoom is crap. That being said the Nokia's 1020 "camerphone" is crap as well. Only hardcore Windows/Nokia fanbois will buy that phone but soccer moms will buy the crappy S4 zoom just because it's Samsung/Google. No wonder that Nokia VP was complaining today.
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 8:41 PM 2
Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013
It's like selling ferrari not toyota.
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 9:09 PM 5
Posts: 1345; Member since: Nov 12, 2011
Wait a second! I thought all the pre-orders for the 1020 were all gone. So basically Nokia made only 3 phones.
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 8:33 PM 5
A hint for Sony........PUT HONAMI ON MORE THAN ONE U.S CARRIER!!
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 8:34 PM 4
Posts: 52; Member since: May 03, 2013
Exactly. Every time they have a phone Im interested in, it's only available on ATT.
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 8:37 PM 4
Posts: 30903; Member since: Feb 05, 2011
Wp8 just isn't getting the love for some reason. Nice platform too
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 8:42 PM 3
They're getting love, its just they are getting 3rd place love...which is not a bad thing by any means. Gotta hold on to what you have and stay focused. PS. And this is coming from someone who actually doesn't like Microsoft lol
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 8:47 PM 2
Posts: 813; Member since: Jun 10, 2013
IMO, tiles. Same reason W8 computers aren't selling as well as 7 did when it was first released. It is a nice platform, but too rigid on what changes you can make to it. Android is king for reasons like that and even Apple is giving people customization options these days. In W8 you have a desktop mode, why not do that for phones? Let me choose to not use tiles and I'd be more likely to buy one.
posted on Jul 29, 2013, 8:52 PM 4
Send a warning to post author
Send a warning to Selected user.
The user has 0 warnings currently.
Next warning will result in ban!
Ban user and delete all posts
Message to PhoneArena moderator (optional):