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What would make a Nokia Lumia better than the Samsung Ativ S?

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What would make a Nokia Lumia better than the Samsung Ativ S?
"Every great show needs a warm-up act." – that is what Nokia's Doug Dawson confidently stated on Twitter soon after Samsung announced its Windows Phone 8 powered Ativ S smartphone. Bold words indeed, for they imply that the upcoming WP8 Nokia Lumia smartphones will somehow be better than what Samsung proudly unveiled on Wednesday. But is that really possible? After all, the Samsung Ativ S is a great-looking smartphone that packs some pretty potent hardware inside its 8.7-millimeter aluminum body. (Check out our thorough specs review for details.) With the risk of being bashed in the comments for saying it, we frankly believe that Nokia does have the potential to deliver a Lumia smarthpone that is superior to the Samsung Ativ S in more than one way. Please, don't scroll down just yet and allow us to tell you what would make a Lumia better than an Ativ S.


PureView camera with lots of megapixels

The Nokia 808 PureView and its 41-megapixel camera

The Nokia 808 PureView and its 41-megapixel camera

If Nokia wants its next generation of Lumia smartphones to be successful, it better throw in a feature that will make them truly stand out. Well, what better perk could the company possibly think of than its brilliant PureView camera technology? Now, we don't think that the monstrous 41-megapixel sensor from the Nokia 808 PureView would ever make it to a Windows Phone 8 device, but a 21-megapixel one seems a lot more plausible, especially given the hints that the Finns have been teasing us with. Moreover, a physically smaller sensor would allow a potential PureView Lumia handset to be of reasonable dimensions, not a 14-millimeter thick slab like the 808. A failure to bring PureView technology to Windows Phone 8 in a timely manner would be a huge disappointment for many, us included, and could spell a disaster for Nokia's future.


Huge ClearBlack screen with RGB pixel arrangement

The Nokia Lumia 900 has a 4.3-inch ClearBlack screen

The Nokia Lumia 900 has a 4.3-inch ClearBlack screen

The Samsung Ativ S comes with a 4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED display. How do you beat something like that, you ask? Well, Nokia's ClearBlack technology can do wonders, which is why the screen on the Lumia 900 is considered one of the best when it comes to outdoor visibility. That is why a ClearBlack display of identical size and resolution would make smartphone fans pretty happy, but that is not all that can be improved. You see, the lack of a "Plus" after "AMOLED" indicates that the screen on the Ativ S uses a PenTile pixel arrangement. If Nokia manages to outfit its Windows Phone 8 flagship with a screen that uses a standard RGB matrix, then it will likely have the upper hand over Samsung's offering, at least in the display department.


Lots of bundled software 

Nokia Drive offers free voice-guided navigation

Nokia Drive offers free voice-guided navigation

When it comes to customization, Windows Phone 8 is about as locked down as its predecessor, which is why there isn't much that Nokia could possibly do to spice up the interface of its Lumia smartphones. However, nothing stops the company from throwing in additional software to boost the perceived value of its handsets. But what would that software be? Nokia Maps, with turn-by-turn navigation and offline maps for over 100 countries, will be installed for sure, but it will be present on all WP8 handsets, including the Samsung Ativ S, so it cannot really make Lumias stand out anymore. Nokia Drive, on the other hand, with its free, voice-guided navigation, would be something that consumers would highly appreciate. What we also expect seeing on the new Lumias are the Nokia Reading and Nokia Transport apps, the former being a hub where users can get books and magazines, and the latter being the company's tool that facilitates commuting using nothing but public transportation. And who knows, perhaps Nokia has even more exclusive surprises up its sleeve, but what they might be we'll learn next week.


Outstanding design

Possibly the design of an upcoming Nokia Lumia smartphone

Possibly the design of an upcoming Nokia Lumia smartphone

Thanks to the rumor mill, we kind of have an idea as to what the upcoming Nokia Lumia smartphones will look like. Prototypes of various shapes and sizes have been leaked more than once, indicating that at least one of the next-gen handsets will retain the current Lumia design scheme and polycarbonate construction. To be honest, we don't know whether Nokia will manage to produce something that looks better than the Samsung Ativ S. We can only guess whether any of the new Lumias will be made out of premium materials, but at least we can safely assume that they will come in different colors, which would probably make them more appealing to the younger crowd. 


Early launch and competitive pricing

The Samsung Ativ S was announced on Wednesday, but its launch date remains unclear. Therefore, Nokia still has the chance to be the first with a Windows Phone 8 handset on the market, as long as it acts swiftly. And that would be a big deal since early adopters will flock to Nokia's offerings, especially if they are priced reasonably. Speaking of pricing, Samsung has not disclosed how much the Ativ S will retail for, yet something tells us that both companies' WP8 high-ends will carry a pretty similar price tag, which will make the competition between them pretty fierce. 

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posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:38 23

1. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


If Windows phone, then Nokia.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:58 14

14. MeoCao (unregistered)


I think SS will have advantage as they can make Activ S very cost competitive to Nokia offerings by using GS3 parts while Nokia is in very difficult financial situation.

SS surely considers Nokia a threat to its position so we will see a fierce battle for WP8 supremacy.

Can't wait.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 21:36 3

55. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


indeed... samsung wants to dethrown nokia in WP too... its been years that samsung want to dethrown nokia as a top manufacturer now they suceed coz they play the android game so good...but i think if nokia join the android party, samsung is still the mere second...

if you want Windows Phone, then go for nokia Lumia...

looks.--- check
elegance---check
nokia exclusive offerings---check
name what you want, lumia has it!!!

but i wonder if nokia really give the nokia maps offering to WP for free...

i want to see it in action is ativ S (i still dont like the Ativ name.. should have been Odyssey... very catchy like Galaxy)..

so if you want to experience this feature, better buy a Lumia...

if android, go for samsung...but since sammy is in trouble now go for sony or motorola...

dont go chinese products okay?

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 23:48

59. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


For android , HTC are also good

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 23:57

61. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


yeah..but im talking about on WP segment.. since HTC still didnt announce WP yet...

but for me, i like HTC device..more solid and compact than samsung's...but HTC's name kinda sucks... same goes to ZTE...... :)

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 04:31

64. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


well thats the point nokia is using ag

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 07:36

67. apocalypsebc (Posts: 148; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


Nokia has Microsoft backing them up in their financial department when it comes to Windows Phone and it is Nokia who see Samsung as a potential threat because Nokia still dominates the global market share.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:39 2

2. jove39 (Posts: 1912; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


s4 pro
4gb ram
1600x900 resolution display
4000mAh battery
pure view camera

did I missed something???

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:40 3

5. redmd (Posts: 1297; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


polycarbonate unibody with variety of color options.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:52 7

13. PhansMuneeb (Posts: 371; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


Resolution and ram is overkill?

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:31 8

18. Osman (Posts: 44; Member since: 07 May 2012)


u failed,its not a tablet, yet there is no tablet with such specs!!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:03 8

24. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)


and a chick with every phone sold... stop dreaming fanboy...

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:13 7

27. No_Nonsense (unregistered)


Yeah, the price. I think $2000

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 13:03 1

44. Mittal (Posts: 493; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


WP8 can only work 2 cores bro.. so forget S4 pro

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 13:36 6

45. gawdfather (Posts: 2; Member since: 11 Aug 2011)


wp8 can support upto 64 cores mittal...get your facts straight

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57456648-85/windows-phone-8-os-opens-up-to-multicore-processors-nfc/

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 05:22

66. Mittal (Posts: 493; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


Ha! good 1 :-D

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 03:11 1

63. Mittal (Posts: 493; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


hmmm... i see
ACCEPT MY APOLOGIES OH MIGHTY GOD!!!
FOR I HAVE SINNED!!!

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 04:38 2

65. gawdfather (Posts: 2; Member since: 11 Aug 2011)


YOUR APOLOGIES ARE ACCEPTED MY SON.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:39 4

3. redmd (Posts: 1297; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


put emphasis in competitive pricing then we'll have a winner.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:40 9

4. lsguntu (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)


1) Same processor as samsung
2) Not very thick
3) Availabilty in all countries

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:38 8

19. Nick_T (Posts: 175; Member since: 27 May 2011)


For now, all WP8 smartphones will have the same Snapdragon S4 processor, your #1 wish will be granted.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:58

40. No_Nonsense (unregistered)


Sorry but you are off the mark, Nokia can/may use custom chipsets as a part of their deal.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:43 4

6. Mitchel (Posts: 228; Member since: 25 May 2012)


Woohh, for the very first time, i can bash other manufacturer's build quality!!! Lets start with Nokia.. Nokia is made of plastic, it is cheap & will retain the old boring design, booo!!Eiiwwww.. Ativ S is more premium with it's sexy brushed aluminum body!!! :)

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:32 1

28. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 571; Member since: 07 May 2012)


dude u haven't even seen a nokia wp8 device

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 12:46 3

43. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Nokia uses polycarbonate. They moved away from anondized aluminum after the N8 and E7 (2010).

Do a drop test between the two. Guess which will win.
Do a surface scratch test on both the screen and the body. Guess which will win.
Put either through a year of wear and tear. Guess which on will win.
Do a reception and call quality test. Guess which one will win.

If you answered Nokia to all 4, you're likely correct!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 23:51

60. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


Get lost you Samsung Fanboy troll
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posted on 31 Aug 2012, 15:47

68. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


dude, it's not a plain plastic like your avila
second...alu looks more refinied but is not as durable
third...just shut up troll

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:44 4

7. ajac09 (Posts: 1482; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


easier answer.. it would be better if samsng made it.

posted on 01 Sep 2012, 06:52

75. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


I hate Samsung Fanboy trolls like you
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posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:46 10

8. moneyrockers (Posts: 4; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)


I will surely go for NOKIA..............:-)

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