Verizon claims next iPhone will work abroad
Apple's yesterday earnings call answered quite a few questions, but just mentioning something about future products made acting CEO Tim Cook quickly turn close-mouthed. Luckily, Verizon had something more to say today as Fran Shammo, CFO of Big Red, said that the next iPhone offered by the carrier will work on overseas networks.
The revealing statement, made during a conference call with analysts discussing Verizon's quarterly results, suggests strongly that the next-gen iPhone will come with dual CDMA/GSM radios. The iPhone puzzle is slowly starting to get solved as Tim Cook hinted strongly that 4G LTE will not be present in the next handset by Apple. “The first generation of LTE chipsets force a lot of design compromises with the handset, and some of those, we are just not willing to make,” Cook explained yesterday writing off yet another rumor.
source: ABC News
1. MalakiMills (Posts: 256; Member since: 15 Jun 2010)
I find it hard to believe that they think the iPhone is to damn pretty to add an LTE sim slot, i understand it means changing the design a bit, but really.... I love the phone, I don't have one but it is a good device that i enjoy using when i'm around my brother, but I would take an uglier 4g device than this pretty 3g phone. And yes I do live in a 4g area.
2. noahbf (Posts: 28; Member since: 28 Apr 2009)
That would make sense in the android world, but Apple's game has always been crackerjack design. And it's not like people are refusing to buy the iPhone because they want 4g. Apple has the competitive weight to be able to wait until the chipsets work the way want them to.
They would probably lose more customers by compromising the design of the iPhone than they would by leaving out the 4g.
4. AL (unregistered)
Its not only hardware that will be effected but battery life as well. For a touch screen device apple has really excelled in battery life and this is something they dont want to comprise on. So a design change is needed. Excpect the Iphone 5 to have minimal changes hardware wise but software should really be improved.
5. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
I've been saying this before Apple decided to not add 4G so don't go all JDB is a fanboy...
We all know that 4G has been a marketing term for the past few years and yet we are so demanding that a 4G chipset be put in our phones. I watch people purchase the Motorola Atrix and HTC Inspire just so they can have a 4G phone. Only problem is, HSPA+ isn't even turned on in their location (even though they swear their speeds are faster). Putting an LTE chip in any handset is going to drive up the cost of the phone itself, taking money that could have gone to other features.
LTE won't be widespread until 2013 to 2015. I think most of the larger carriers have gone on the record to say that. So even if my upgrade is this year and I decide to switch to a 4G phone, I wouldn't get the experience I was looking for until the end of my contract. Plus, I get around 5mbps speeds on my phone...there is nothing I can thing of right now that needs more speed than that. Not doing something about latency would be amazing...
10. VZinsider (unregistered)
VZW will be 4G in nearly 80% of the country by the end of 2012...when AT&T might be up to 30%. It pleases me that AT&T is always sooo sloow coming out of the gate. Gives us at Red plenty of time to build out before they even get on the horse. LOL
14. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Oh don't get me wrong, I actually enjoy what Verizon does for the industry to some extent. I think as long as they keep embarassing AT&T at the network game, it will force AT&T to keep improving their network, slowly but surely.
Now according to Verizon's website, their 4G network will cover their entire 3G footprint by the end of 2013...AT&T is mum about their time frame other than saying it will be nationwide by 2013... not sure if that's HSPA+ or LTE or some mix of the two.
I still stand by what I said. As of April 2011, LTE is a marketing term. If you want to jump on board now, by all means. But by the time it is nationwide, you'll be up for an upgrade. I have no problem waiting around for 4G to actually matter and then I kind of want proof that it'll be that fast once everyone hops on board. Right now, I think the LTE dongles from Verizon have seen download speeds of 20mbps in instances. What happens when everyone has it? Is that when we go down to 6-12mbps? That's still good, but I still can't think of something I could do at the speed vs. what I have right now. Again, I'd be more concerned with latancy. Now when they start streaming in HD, the higher speeds will be amazing. But then again, there won't be an unlimited plan on Verizon's side by then either.
I guess if I were a manufacturer like Apple, I'd wait a bit before sticking that chipset in there. If they wanted to do a 4G iPhone right now, they'd have to put in this dual chipset for GSM/CDMA. Then they'd have to include a chipset for HSPA+ and LTE including all the frequencies. Another big thing is whether AT&T knows what frequency they are putting LTE on...I just made my brain hurt.
13. BobbyTaba (Posts: 316; Member since: 11 Aug 2010)
No one cares if at&t hasnt turned on their crappy hspa+ network. Verizon has a good LTE network right now
3. CNachoZz (unregistered)
AAAAAAANNNND im assuming they've never heard the term "unlocking" your device. Hell, I know a few people ABROAD that have and are using the iPhone. Ooookay then. As far as the i5 not supporting LTE, that's horrible. Technology is moving foward VZW and Apple! with or without you! so what! change the designs/specs a lil. come out with a device that actually looks DIFFERENT from all the other devices you guys have out there. something NEW and "magical". and ofcoarse, that supports 4G. that's like having a 3 cylinder Ferrari Enzo?!? makes no damn sense!
6. protozeloz (Posts: 5381; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
To me All phones should come with CDMA/GSM bands(freagin all four of them) and save us a lot of trouble! period.
8. newfdog 13 (Posts: 64; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
I fully agree! So what is the 'expected' time frame for a dual band iPhone?
7. VZinsider (unregistered)
Maybe he's right and so is Apple. Maybe the I-5 won't be released by VZW. Maybe VZW will wait to offer the new I-6 before Christmas. This would give AT&T an opportunity to sell more 3g since thier LTE is years away and then next update will indeed have the LTE design. Hmmm, possible?
19. Jojofromdabay (Posts: 39; Member since: 06 Apr 2010)
the next iphone ill be on vzw an at&t an no it wont really be a 4g phone but it will go over seas an will probably be capable of getting 4g signal even if it doesn't start out that way.
Now as for design change it will be a few years for a real design change an truthfully if apple wanted a lte sim an technology they would have done it already.
9. biggles (Posts: 213; Member since: 15 Oct 2009)
Makes sense. Apple doesn't want to maintain two separate but similar devices when it can manufacturer a single phone that works with all. This way they can focus shortening their development cycle to 6 months so they can halve the improvements and double their profits on the backs of consumers. Sure, people will complain, but they'll pay through the nose to have the latest and greates every 6 months, just like they did with the annual updates.
11. cellgeek82 (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Dec 2009)
4G eats batteries and still very new to the market. I'm happy with 3G for now :) It doesn't pay to be the guinea pig.
12. testman22 (Posts: 337; Member since: 03 Nov 2009)
I understood why 4G wasnt put on the iPhone 4 when it came to verizon, but I cannot fathom why they would not have it ready for the iPhone 5. They say it would be a design compromise.... Isn't that the whole point of designing a new generation of phone?
So we won't see a 4g iPhone till close to 2013. Google must be salivating over this news
15. iPhone4 User (unregistered)
If the i6 has LTE and AT&T does not have LTE ... Verizon wins, period.
Maybe that is one thing that AT&T got out of the iPhone exclusivity ... "no LTE until we are ready with LTE too" ... ???
As of now ... my wife is on Sprint ... as soon as iWhatever comes out with LTE ... I'm over to big red.
16. Rawrzellers (Posts: 224; Member since: 22 Aug 2010)
Okay whatever you guys are talking about can't compare to the creeper face that was posted with this article... fucking weird.