Report: A6 chip in Apple iPhone 5 is a custom design; 1GB of RAM is aboard
Perhaps the most important news is that Apple has designed much of the processor in-house. Anandtech says that it has confirmed that the A6 is "based on Apple's own ARM based CPU core and not the Cortex A15," and was manufactured using the 32nm process. Designing the A6 in-house means that Apple most likely optimized the design to allow the phone to run at the specific speed it needs for the best customer experience. The site also says that they believe that the new version of Apple's smartphone is being powered by a dual-core processor. All of those out there who were looking for Apple to go quad-core on the iPhone will have to wait until next year.
source Anadtech (1), (2) via Engadget
1. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
this article was sprayed with apple cologne and smells like an ifan......
6. daddysbeenabadgirl (Posts: 157; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
Careful! or you will get an email from Iphonearena telling you to go elsewhere if you post these kinds of things, I know because I got one...
9. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
lol i know but the truth slips out sometimes like when someone is lying and you know they are?
48. imsickwithphone (banned) (Posts: 76; Member since: 17 May 2012)
lol, what ever they stated....
It still manufactured by SAMSUNG
YOU GOT SAMSUNGED, APPLE!!
65. Altair (Posts: 367; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
I would not brag eith Samsuck. It is just a thief. A cheap copycat who would still making ugly plastic bricks with Bada in it, without Nokia and Apple.
Samsung "Inspired by other OEM's"
10. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
this site is FULL of comments like his... lol
this is the home for android users...
unbiased users have to mask themselves to survive in the comment sections...
he'll get 20 thumb ups by morning... i'll have a few down... (shrugs)
12. daddysbeenabadgirl (Posts: 157; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
Home of android users? More like Apple biased website.
Hyping up a dual core, 1gb phone that is finally getting LTE is too much. I come here for news updates from many phones not just one.
34. JC557 (Posts: 1266; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
There's more apple bias overall in the tech site area. Hell, PhoneArena was quite biased towards Apple not that long ago. It was relatively recently that more people are calling Apple and their devout fans on their BS.
35. serious9010 (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Soo true dude! Like everytym I post something good about apple I get them thumb downs! This place's full of fandroids bro trynna impose them opinions on others... SHOO FA*DROIDS
52. sgtslayer321 (Posts: 36; Member since: 01 Oct 2009)
I am a Android user and I respect Apple's hardware but you have to admit that the A6 chip set is top tier at this point.
49. dr_fajardo12 (Posts: 108; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)
im a windows phone user . maybe this page is so informative that people here knows about phones and knows that iphone is not on par with samsungs or last nokia s phones
59. dragonscourgex (Posts: 307; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
I think this is more a long the "truth line". More people here actually do research on all different type of phones and not just rely on what Apple says.
15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Just because PA posts an article about Apple's new chip, you accuse them of being biased? Come on. I am not an Apple fanboy. I personally am curious about what is powering the iP5. I suspect there are one or more readers out there who share my interest.
32. wendygarett (unregistered)
I share :D
At least we finally know that a6 chips is not quad core...
take that Apple!! For make those marketing gimmick to brainwash fanboy
89. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
Wendy some days you say good things about iPhone, some days you trash them... Dont let yourself get swayed by what others say. Dont be a fan, be yourself... all the time.
I like the apple avatar you had before. Especially since the person in the pic is not you.
38. serious9010 (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Here on PA everything is biased if non-android related. The site is infested with fandroids....
41. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"Here on PA everything is biased if non-android related."
You must be a recent join. There are quite a few Apple fans as well. Even some WP and BB/RIM fans too.
45. Glim12808 (Posts: 394; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I'm a WP fan but I also like Android. In fact, I had 2 Android phones but last December 2011, I converted one phone to WP7 and loved it. So now my primary phone is WP and my secondary is Android. Unfortunately this December, both my phones will be WP8 but I don't hate Android.
As to Apple, I like Apple products too except the iPad. Unfortunately I did not like Steve Jobs so that is what's keeping me from fully using the iPhone. Sorry.
46. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
why is it unfortunate that your buying W8 devices? If your sad about it.. dont do it. lol. No one will think less of you. :)
47. Glim12808 (Posts: 394; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I'm not sorry I'm going to buy 2 WP8 phones. I'm sad actually to leave Android. But can't help crossing over completely to WP8... really, really love the OS.
58. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
I have the same dilemma. I absolutely love WP8, but I absolutely love Android too...
51. dr_fajardo12 (Posts: 108; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)
remixfa knows a lot about phones and is an android fan, he cant accept that wp is too awesome but he will, like all ifans.
95. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
what are you talking about? I own a windows 7.5 phone as well as android devices. I was making fun of the way the statement was typed, not the device.
54. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
Almost any site that is not like cult of mac or something will have more android supporters. Gennerally android users are more likely to understand tech, so you will find them on thec sites more. However w "fandroids" are not always ignorant and biased. I remember in an article where samsung was accused of child labor, Taco, (if you don't know him he was the leader of this sites isheep and was constantly los ing arguments with us "fandroids) said something like that samsung is just as bad as apple and got almost 20 thumbs up and only a couple thumbs down. There have been other scenarios that I don't remember right now where people supporting apple got a lot of thumbs up. We do not just randomly thumb people down, we thumb you down if you say Iphone 5 is better than s3 and have absolutely no real argument to support that. If you have a good reason to say that however, we will thumbs you up, no matter who you are.
50. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Oh yeah perfectly share your view here. And finally we all know that the processor in iPhone 5 is dual-core and a cross between the A9 and A15 architectures like the S4. The 1GB RAM is a welcome addition. I'd have got this one if it wasn't the 920 or S3.
96. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ok, where are you gleaming this info.
The S6 chip is an A9 dual core 32nm HKG+ manufactured chip. In other words it is a modified Exynos 4212. Its not some "hybrid" of anything. And neither is the S4 Krait chip either. The Krait is a custom design that is neither a true A9 nor A15. However, it is an A9 in performance. Everything else is just salesmen trying to convince you its something better.
101. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
The S4 chip is a cross between the A9 and A15 architecture. The S4 is better than A9s but will be no match for true A15s when it arrives to the market.
63. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)
You don't like Alan f ?
Same for me
The articles should be signed from the main page to avoid to click on that thing
86. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
how? it actually is not nearly as apple-pro as other articles… they did not even call this new chip structure innovation.. they did not say how this chip structure has probably been in the works for a while due to apple's acquisitions a few years back… they did not discuss how the A15 is based for servers and if htc/samsung/lg uses it, it will not function as well as this chip which is specially designed for a mobile os…
its called news… and this was certainly not pro-apple
2. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
Wow. Apple actually still can design new things. Nice, if it really lives up to Apples claims we finally have an Apple chip thats beefy not only in graphics performance.
18. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
I suspect that Apple's A6 chip will not exactly be beefy in comparison to say, the S4 Pro, but it will give a user experience that convinces the owners of 3GS and 4 handsets that they need to upgrade to the new iP5.
For Apple, it is more about keeping their installed base happy and profitability of the handset than performance comparisons to Android (or WP for that matter).
19. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
Indeed. What matters is real life performance.
25. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)
Indeed. Real life test numbers that compare actual performance.
Buying a high-end phone is like buying a muscle car. I already know it's fast and I know the horsepower numbers are not the only thing that determine how fast it is, but I'd still like to know what the engine puts out regardless. So someone please clock this thing and tell me how many numbers it can crunch...
37. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Well, one piece of information appears to have leaked out - the iP5 is equipped with 1 Gb of RAM. There is an article on macrumors about the RAM spec for the phone based on part numbers that have appeared in photos of the A6.
42. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
its basically an exynos 4212 with a PowerVR, just like I've been saying.
64. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
where in the article did it say that, so you are questioning two different site man you are 'smart'
97. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
let me make this very simple for ya.
The A6, as I've said from the beginning is an A9 32nm HKG+ dual core chip manufactured by samsung. It is in laymen's terms basically a modified Exynos 4212 chip. That exynos is also an A9 32nm HKG+ dual core chip manufactured by samsung. Bot the A lines and Exynos lines have always been sister chips with slight modifications and different GPUs. Its not that hard.
However, Anandtech came out right away and said it looks like it "MIGHT" be an A15, and then everyone ran with it... and turned "MIGHT" into "IS" a long the way.
As far as I can tell, I was the ONLY person saying that was bullshyt and that it was in fact an A9 based 4212 sister chip.
So yea, that makes me "smart"... since I was the only one that was right.
84. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Geekbench has put up a benchmark score of 1601 for the A6. The article I read is posted on macrumors. The article makes the claim that the 1601 score exceeds scores produced by all Android phones on Geekbench. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find the listing of scores for all Android phones on Geekbench, so no frame of reference. I would expect the A6 to beat a GS II, but not a GS III.
98. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if the A6 is a modified 4212, that is just the dual core version of the quadcore found in the SGS3 international version. The A6 however has a more powerful PowerVR GPU than the Mali400 that the Samsung uses... so some of the difference would be right there.
Without getting a breakdown of each category the score to see it all, its hard to tell. But I would expect it to be on par or slightly higher/lower depending on the GPU use.
3. hateftotti (Posts: 188; Member since: 03 May 2011)
You can write bunch of articles about the new iFAIL everyday but everyone knows that there are many great phones out there which iphone5 can not even come close to them.
7. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
no body is saying the iPhone 5 is the best phone man...
damn android won ok its the best... you happy now? get over it...
apple's brand will always be iconic and the talk of the town... it creates more buzz than anything else... look at the number of comments in all the previous articles... that's your proof...
all the writer is doing is informing us of what this A6 chip is about...
so many broken records in here... hahaha smh
never see any complaints when there are a bunch of android articles... but as soon as someone says something positive about apple is DOOMS DAY...lol
16. jshan (Posts: 200; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
LoL ... There is no doomsday man ... It will happen at step by step ... C the thing bout apples processor ... It is what it is ... Android oh c'on man.. U don't need to say like "u win happy ? Stuff " ... Tell me some performances that over the iPhone but android does ????
73. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
my point is there's no comparison... android has the most powerful and up-to-date tech in their phones... no contest...
BUT this is still news it's worth reading about so people are informed of whats under iPhone's hood...
The same with windows phone... they will post some chip specs about that phone too...
just because its not android doesn't make it not worth talking about... GEEZ
88. jshan (Posts: 200; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
Ok u win !! Android is the best and apple stolen by android !! Not android stolen by apple !! I'm I right ? That's the thing man .. Your taking all in wrong ways ... I do not need to make any bulls**ty arguments !! I'm fan of smartphone !! And I saw the quality only on apple. So I'm staying with em. I like HTC also.. But not the foolish Samsung !! Cz their copying things like children's in the schools ... C'on Samsung !! Try to be smart and do some ... Then u guys can do better than this !! And we shouldn't bash anyone.. Cz we are just customers !! Hey anyway do u have the list of sgs3 parts cost ?like ? Display ? Processor ? Etc ...
4. Ragnarockd (Posts: 47; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)
Anandtech what have you done, there were people who still thought it was a quad core....guess what.
8. Ragnarockd (Posts: 47; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)
13. hung2900 (Posts: 909; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Oh! Ifans always think Apple invents everything=))
Panorama and 720p front video camera??? =))
Passbook? Google Wallet is way better.
67. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10206; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Everything on that list has been existing since ICS...
Once again, Apple is late to the game.
11. Savage (unregistered)
Knew it wasn't a quad-core. Remember how Apple kept emphasizing its 4S was a dual-core? I was suspecting since they didn't say anything about the no. of cores, the 5 must be dual.
And I don't think there will be a quad-core next year. Why does Apple need more cores on iOS? A newer chip will suffice.
14. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
less cores needed becuase the demands ios is askin for to run it is "less" than android phones........it does what it does and it does it well......only problem is ..........you're paying the same price you would pay for a laptop for a "pretty-basic" phone.............and i meant that its pretty AND basic lol
i feel the new xperia line is what we all been looking for........beauty, power, and its still android! so go figure
17. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
my opinion of course :)
80. roscuthiii (Posts: 2002; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
I thought I saw something the other day about an Xperia Nexus coming... For one reason or another, there has always been a deal-breaker for me with Sony smartphones, but an Xperia Nexus? That's got my attention, if true.
20. gunnroses (Posts: 20; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
Apple knows how to maximize software well
21. frydaexiii (Posts: 1420; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Ok, oh yeah, I forgot to tell you, my Galaxy S3 isn't really an S3, it's actually a Super Android Power Phone 5000, custom by me... Yeah, renaming something doesn't make it a custom.
22. Kronic (banned) (Posts: 321; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)
Who cares as long as it provides twice the performance. A phone must be judged on the basis of real world performance not its specs. iPhone 5 is a very decent phone. In fact I am gonna be selling my galaxy S3 to buy it as the cheap plastic feel of the S3 is too much for me to bear. It's not about being an iFan or a fandroid. It's about what you want and what you prefer.
23. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
you people keep sayin a phone needs to be based on "real world" performance but all the reviews i have watched so far have shown me "buttery smooth" performance from the galaxy s3........and its not even runnin jellybean yet! so i still dont know how the iphone is better in real life performance or anything for that matter.......except design, thats all i can give the iphone
60. Kronic (banned) (Posts: 321; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)
I did not say galaxy S3 is not good. It's a great phone! And it is smooth and will be as butterly smooth when it gets JB but the iPhone is pretty darn good. I hate accepting this but the design beats galaxy S3, the one x, 4X HD and thelumia 920 hands down. The best android in terms of design is the one s.