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Nokia's former executive says Android is (like) number 1

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Nokia's former executive says Android is (like) number 1
Nokia's former executive, Anssi Vanjoki, has left an unusual image in our mind after his comment on the Android platform. The former executive said that handset makers who use Google's open source OS are like little boys who "pee in their pants" to for the warmth. What he was saying was that while the platform works well at first, the effect starts to fade and it gets worse later.

Based on the comment, we would say that Samsung, Motorola and HTC have been spraying all over the place. We would also note that with Vanjoki now on the outside of the Finnish based manufacturer looking in, it could be a sign that Nokia might be considering using its number 1 option-Android (pun intended)-on some new Nokia handsets.

Nokia spends three times as much as Apple does on software R&D and an analysis of the firm by the Financial Times shows that the company could lift their margins by 4% by switching to an Android based platform. This leads to higher profits and a higher stock price. Ultimately, Nokia must satisfy its owners, which are the stockholders.

source: FT.com

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posted on 20 Oct 2010, 01:48
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1. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


If Nokia were to ditch Symbian for Android, it would put its long-term profitability in danger because its ability to differentiate would be reduced to...."number 2". Why is Samsung pushing forward with Bada?...because being "number 2" stinks.

posted on 21 Sep 2010, 19:50
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2. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)


Nokia has a TINY margin in the US market for US carriers. I know for one Verizon which accounts for over 90 mil customers dont have Nokia's , smartphones or otherwise. At&t has a few T-mo a few. But almost all of Nokia fans are just that, loyal Nokia users. the name is reliable but isn't sucking in any NEW people like HTC recent reign of terror, blackberry surprisingly still growing and Samsung and LG as well. even iPhone. There just isn't that much room for Nokia if they DONT switch to android. There designs are nice and quality tech is good, put that with android and you have a win.

posted on 21 Sep 2010, 19:51
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3. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)


Edit - they do have Nokia just basic flip phones and 1 text phone.

posted on 22 Sep 2010, 09:20
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7. ahmad firdaus (unregistered)


I do agree with papajay. If nokia switch to android, they have a chance to be a winner and be among the best smartphone . Definitely, nokia phone's design is superb like their new upcoming E7. If let say nokia E7 carries android, just one word to say, it is 'superb'.

posted on 22 Sep 2010, 14:59
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8. thatdude1 (unregistered)


You guys on here always talk like the U.S. is the only cellphone market. Lets not forget that there is the rest of the world out there, and Nokia is king there.

posted on 22 Sep 2010, 16:21
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10. thatdude1 (unregistered)


Symbian is more stable and mature than Android. Why on earth would Nokia want to put it on their smartphones? Symbian is a much better OS than android.

posted on 22 Sep 2010, 04:54
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4. PhoneLuver (Posts: 481; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)


All I hear is Blah! Blah! Blah! It's because of guys like these that took it Nokia 5 years to create it's first smartphone. For everyone out there, the N95 N97 and others are NOT smartphones! Like it or not, the iPhone revolutionized the smartphoe business and is the the industry standard all other smartphones live and die by! Nokia's major problem, same as Windows mobile has always been software stability. They make great hardware and I love the cameras they use but the software is buggy, crap and extremely limited. The other major flaw is that its devices are hardly upgradeable. If you want new features you have to buy a new phone! This system worked well and that's why they sold so many phones, but a true smartphone must be upgradeable to atleast one or two major software releases. Will the new N8 be upgradeable to Symbian 4? Probably not.. What implications does this have on software developers and to customers that have purchased and installed Symbian 3 applications? Google through Android was the first to open its eyes to provide a good and sensible alternative to Apple. You have to give them credit for that! Windows phone also looks promising, although many customers may have been scorned by the constant crashing associated with older devices.  What most manufacturers have realized is that smartphones OS's are experiencing a fundamental paradigm shift. Similar to the 1980's where people stopped competing on the OS level and concentrated on improved hardware and applications for established and stable software.  I believe there is limited room for multiple OS's in the smartphone spectrum. The ones with the a similar basic core should survive especially if tools exist to export mobile applications to multiple OS's. If an OS needs special development tools and expertise to create apps will most likely fail.  That being said, there is still room for basic devices and OS's such as Bada could still flourish in that area.  I for one carry one smartphone, (apple for the time being) and one basic phone with traditional buttons (nokia E66). One is for applications, e-mail etc.. The other is used purely to make calls snap the occasional picture or I take it along instead to places where my smartphone might get lost, damaged or stolen, as it's easily concealed and fits into a jeans pocket easily.   I expect there are quite a few people out there that do the same.  In conclusion, Nokia might stand a chance now that short sighted arrogant people like this don't work them anymore...

posted on 22 Sep 2010, 06:32
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5. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 870; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)


Please enlighten us as to what defines a smartphone, since you seem to think that the N95, N97, and E66 aren't smartphones. And for future reference, any application written with Qt for S^3 should run on S^4.

posted on 22 Sep 2010, 16:17
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9. thatdude1 (unregistered)


I agree. What on earth would make phoneuver think that Nokia handsets are not smartphones, and then have the audacity to carry one around(E66)? Nokia smartphones are more smartphone than the iphone could ever be. What rock have you been stuck under, phoneluver?

posted on 22 Sep 2010, 16:46
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11. PhoneLuver (Posts: 481; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)


N97 was the worst rip off ever! Nokia will suffer the repercussions for that for a long time!! It was a pathetic excuse for a phone let alone a smartphone! The software was utterly crap and the camera flash practically split the pictures in two! N95 was a good phone but by no means a smartphone! The windows mobile and Apple phones trumped it by far! I like the form and shape of the E66. The OS crashes regularly though and text e-mails? Really? That's the best they could do? "smart"

posted on 22 Sep 2010, 16:51
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12. PhoneLuver (Posts: 481; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)


Have you ever owned an iPhone or Android device? From the sounds of it you haven't! I'm talking from experience. I have actually used and owned all of these phones! I'm not a fan boy, but I can appreciate a good phone and effort! It looks like Nokia is finally making some positive changes by getting rid of some old dead wood!

posted on 22 Sep 2010, 06:43
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6. derp (unregistered)


at least this guy has a brain and can see android for what it is. a horrible OS that just keeps getting worse with every update. people complain about the apple sheep...while i can agree with them, i can also admit that android sheep are no different. maybe some day both can roam the open fields together chewing their cud in blissful force close error harmony.

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