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Has Apple changed in the one year since Steve Jobs passed away?

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Has Apple changed in the one year since Steve Jobs passed away?
On this day, we mark exactly one year since probably the most influential person in tech, Apple’s head Steve Jobs passed away.

Jobs was a figure that stood out and he left a company that stands out. The creator of Apple saved his own company from the brink of bankruptcy and grew it to become the world’s biggest firm.

But Steve Jobs was more than just a manager - he was the driving force that brought us first graphical interfaces and then products like the iPhone, iPad and MacBook Air.

Since his passing on October 5th, 2011, former logistics chief Tim Cook took over the company in a smooth and well orchestrated transition. In the past year, Apple has nearly doubled its market value with shares growing from around $370 to nearly $670. Cook has delivered products like the iPhone 5 with its bigger screen and the new iPad with an extremely detailed display that no other company can match yet.

With an almost perfect financial track record, Cook allowed a few cracks in his image allowing unpolished products like Siri and Apple Maps. The big question, though, is has Apple changed a year after Jobs? Is it still the same company ready to shock the industry with a radically new product like the iPhone? Or has that revolutionary halo disappeared? Vote, but don’t hesitate to also share in the comments what do you think changed (or not) at Apple in the past year and what do you expect from the company.

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Has Apple changed in the one year since Steve Jobs passed away?
70.9%
921 votes
(921 votes) Yes, Apple is a different company now.
29.1%
378 votes
(378 votes) No, Apple has retained itself.

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posted on 05 Oct 2012, 07:06 2

1. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Not yet.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 10:03 7

54. addict27 (Posts: 7; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)


An iPhone bigger than the 'ideal' 3.5" and an upcoming iPad at the 7" 'tweener' size Jobs declared would be "dead on arrival". . . yea the company hasn't changed at all. /s

posted on 08 Oct 2012, 03:13

94. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


If thats the case.....its 50/50 or a no vote.

They were still trying to sue the pants off of ppl since Jobs died. They have some issues with iOS 6 (maps) and the iPhone 5 (purple halo, lines on keyboards, build issues)

Claimed some features were first for the iPhone 5, when its been on Android since at least 2010, and was probably on Win Mo phones too.

yet the iPhone 5 is the most amazing phone created.

That doesnt look like 100% change to me. Products? I agree somewhat. The company as a whole? Well...I voted no.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 10:33 9

57. Doakie (Posts: 2107; Member since: 06 May 2009)


I think they've changed in some minor ways.
#1 Their device security has gone to crap, everything is leaking long before release, Steve would have never let that happen. He'd go down to China personally and choke out some Foxconn employees for leaking his products. The fact that Samsung had no leaks with the GS3, and the next Nexus has had practically no leaks blows me away.

#2 They care more about the image that they take better care of their assembly worker life conditions within their factories.

#3 They are more willing to bend to what the consumer desires. Larger iPhone screen and smaller iPad screens, mucking up the screen resolution consistency that made their products so streamlined to develop for. One issue with bending to consumer desires, the profitability(through mass production) of keeping screen sizes small and consistent has gone down. So they gotta make that profit back...in Lightning adapter sales. Lol.

I think I'm correct in my prediction right after Steve died. Apple will(add has) become just like ever other average electronics company. They are going to focus on competing with their competitors head on instead of blazing off in different directions. And also follow market trends and consumer desire more. They've lost their visionary, but they are still full of talented people. So you'll see some great products still coming out of them. But you won't see the same huge directional changing innovation that Steve bought to Apple. I hate Apple to the core and even disliked Steve for his aggressive dictator like hold on their ecosystem, but I can still appreciate the innovation he bought the smartphone industry. If there were more people like Steve the computer industry would be much more advanced today than it already is.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 07:06 31

2. adi4u4882 (Posts: 137; Member since: 10 Jan 2012)


Nope.
Still the same low class products with a high class price.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 07:16 11

7. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)


but now more people know about it

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 08:15 18

32. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)


dont forget the SUING!

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 07:09 21

3. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Sorry if it will offend someone but in my opinion Apple is the same pathetic company.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 07:16 2

6. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


No, it's only closed, manipulative and rigorous, not pathetic. Pathetic are Samsung and Nokia, those who try to keep the pace with pathetic strategies like brutal insults and comparisons with Apple etc.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 07:19 11

9. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)


If advertising is pathetic, Apple should go out of business right now.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 07:30 3

11. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


I never really understood how it is possible for a company to advertise themsleves by mocking the competiton.

In my country it is forbidden as tobacco ads.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 07:34 8

12. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)


Bashing/taking a dig at other brands is fine IMO. But, well what Apple does isn't. By which I mean, marketing every new thing like the best thing since sliced bread, patent trolling, refusing to acknowledge faults in previous products, falsely advertising products like iPhone 5 being the thinnest phone ever, yada yada is not good. Comparatively, Sammy and Nokia ads are better.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 07:57 1

24. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Actually both Sammy and Nokia had great flops with ads recently. Samsung was bragging with their specs and perfromnce just to be defeated or equalled by "underspeced" iPhone in perfomance, and Nokia showed how honest they are with those image stabilization commercials. Then they continued to mock Apple, their buyers and color of devices, in lack of inspiration.

Please, be objective.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 09:11 3

45. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)


Sorry for posting it twice but anyways here's my reply:

I don't know which Samsung ad was a failure but Nokia did apologise for the ad fiasco. Apple didn't even bother to address the iphone 5 problems except the maps one. And in which way the iphone 5 trumps the S3? I'd like to know everything else than the android authority drop test and the first IP5 benchmark that appeared.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 11:05 1

62. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Samsung's fiasco was that tasteless spec comparison ad that was trying to say that their phone is better, but the truth is that iPhone stand up with this giant by being much smaller, thinner and underspeced. Samsung is unable to make 7,5 mm thick 4-inch screen dual-core phone with that kind of performance and user experience.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 11:32 2

69. ILikeBubbles (Posts: 525; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


i'm fairly confident that if they wanted to samsung could easily make a 4" screened phone...

and how exactly does screen size impact performance?

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 12:35 1

72. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


It does impact performance, but not directly. Smaller screen size is usually on smaller chassis, and therefore smaller battery, especially if you want smartphone to be extremely thin. So usually manufacturers use weaker batteries and use weaker processors. iPhone 5 has managed to hold very efficient level of battery/performance/size ratio. It's actually a small miracle.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 13:30 1

75. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"It does impact performance, but not directly."

Resolution impact GPU performance but not display size.

"...weaker processors."

1) SoC is not the same thing as CPU.
2) Size doesn't proportional to performnce.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 13:52 1

79. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Display size also affects, just like resolution and density.

In size: more surface needs to be lighten up
In resolution: more pixels needs to be driven
In density: the higher the density, the smaller are transistors, with higher power efficiency.

Size is not proportional to performance, but it is to battery, which has to drive more demanding hardware.

As I said, affects it indirectly.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 14:58

82. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"In size: more surface needs to be lighten up"

So we are talking about performance or about energy consumptions because backlight doesn't have anything to do with performance.

"In resolution: more pixels needs to be driven"

Display size is not relevant to resolution. Resolution impact GPU performance but not display size!

So you are talking about SoC size or CPU because CPU is inside the SoC. And talking about SoC manufacturing Samsung is all the way in front of Apple!

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 02:49

88. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Like I said, it's indirect connection.

Display size calls for larger battery because most of battery drain comes from lighting up the surface of backlight. With smaller screen, this is good for battery life but again you have smaller surface, and by adding the thin body, your battery is smaller, and therefore weaker. So in a small phone you can't have strong processors, because they drain power very fast, so indirectly, it affects performance by design.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 11:26

89. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


First decide about what we are talking about performance or about energy consumptions!

"Display size calls for larger battery because most of battery drain comes from lighting up the surface of backlight."

Samsung use OLED based display which don't have any backlight!

"So in a small phone you can't have strong processors, because they drain power very fast, so indirectly, it affects performance by design."

If CPU is powerful, that still doesn't mean that it should eat a lot of energy and even if it eats a lot of energy it may be compensated with other parts small energy consumptions.

I see that you don't understand about what you are talking about, you are just pretending to look competent...

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 13:48

91. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


OLED is not using backlight however in full values of particular subpixels it drains more battery than standard LCD.

I personally think it's achievable to make very efficient processor in samll package worthy of the name "high end". After all, Apple did it. I doubt however, that Samsung is able to that easily, because they are dependent on Android.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 07:35 3

13. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Tell lies, disrespect and ignore customers isn't it pathetic???
I know business is dirty thing but there still is such thing like a business ethics about which Apple also has forgot long time ago and this is also pathetic.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 07:53 1

22. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


I'm sorry, but Apple users don't feel cheated, disrespected and lied to. If they did, Apple wouldn't be the richest company in the world with 97% customer satisfaction. Maybe you would wish they are dissatisfied, but they aren't. You are just projecting your enthusiast needs on average users.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 08:19 2

33. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"I'm sorry, but Apple users don't feel cheated, disrespected and lied to."

Yes, I agree with you they don't feel cheated, disrespected and lied to. But in this case feelings and reality are two different things.

Let's say that I lied for an person and that person did not realized that I lied, then it doesn't count as a lie and doesn't count as pathetic?

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 08:29 1

35. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


No, it's not lie if person doesn't know that, because the Being of inquiry is based on perception of product, not some external and measurable value.

The true function of the product is to be percieved as a good product.

But, I will nevertheless ask you to state the things in which Apple customers were cheated. A couple of them will be enough to make a point of whether they were trully cheated.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 08:56 8

39. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Remember when Apple was claiming that iOS 6 is "The 'world's most advanced mobile operating system." - Isn't this called a lie?

Remember when Apple was claiming that Apple Maps "The most beautiful, powerful mapping service ever." - Isn't this called a lie?

Remember Apple response to customers complaints due to antenna problems "You're holding it wrong!" - Isn't that pathetic disrespect, disregard and lie for customer?

Remember Apple response to customers "Use iMessage instead of SMS!" when there was SMS security problems. - Isn't that pathetic disrespect, disregard and arrogance?

Remember about Phone 5 scratches out of the box and what Apple's response to customers complaints "It is normal!" - Isn't that pathetic disrespect, disregard and lie for customer?

Or remember about Purple tints on Apple iPhone 5 pictures, Apple's response also was "It is normal!" - Isn't that pathetic disrespect, disregard and lie for customer?

Also Apple already knew about some iPhone 5 problems even before release. For example about build quality problems they knew even before release but they just dont care about that and I call it disrespect for customer!

Watch video:
"Foxconn Worker Claims New iPhone 5 is Poorly Made"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l4vpyQIafY

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 09:16 1

47. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Cult things have tendency to be overblown in mass media out of proportions, and so are all those examples.

Apple is not doing anything more unethical than other companies that market themsleves, however they are under the microscope because it's trendy now to hate Apple.

Antennagate - overblown. I've never noticed somthing that bothers me.

Scratches - overblown. You'll se when things cool out a bit.

Purple tint - already proved false.

Foxconn worker - lie. media engineering.

Apple Maps - logical situation of any service provider, soon it will be right on track with others.

So, nothing strange enough to be actually catastrophic towards buyers. Nothing different than other companies' doings. They still percieve Apple products as great. But, as I said, everything of Apple is now under microscope, because tendency is like that.

posted on 05 Oct 2012, 09:46 4

50. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Foxconn worker - lie. media engineering."

Maybe or maybe not, it is only your assumption.

"Scratches - overblown. You'll se when things cool out a bit."

Sorry I don't understand what you want to say by saying this "You'll se when things cool out a bit.". Do you mean that after some time iPhone 5 will be no more scratchable ???

"Apple Maps - logical situation of any service provider, soon it will be right on track with others."

So, when it will be on track, then Apple may call it "The most beautiful, powerful mapping service ever." but while it is not on track, there is no reason for shameless lie!

"So, nothing strange enough to be actually catastrophic towards buyers. Nothing different than other companies' doings"

Read my comment #34 below this this article.

"But, as I said, everything of Apple is now under microscope, because tendency is like that."

With such point of view you can justify any company...

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