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HTC says its rough patch is not "so serious", while it might get slapped with a sales ban in Germany

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The CFO of HTC Winston Yung explained today that despite the lowered forecast for the fourth quarter, HTC is "not another Nokia" and still doing pretty well, expecting to ship 45 million phones next year in its most conservative estimates, compared to 25 million this year, and that's a gigantic jump.

He said "I don't think it's so serious", but jittery investors already sent the stock down more than 30% after it issued the lower guidance for Q4, blamed on the tough sell against Apple's and Samsung's flagships. To add insult to injury, its lawsuit against Apple was dismissed after it tried to acquire S3 Graphics for its patents for $300 million. Now HTC is trying to wiggle out of the deal, which shouldn't be so hard.

Another piece of patent-related bad news came from Germany, where IPCom was suing HTC, among others, for some mobile network patents since the dawn of mobile. HTC thinks it is unlikely to win the appeal on this one, withdrew its papers from the lawsuit, and might be facing injunction on some products in Germany for the important holiday season, if there isn't some cash outlay to buy licenses. The company's defense is that this is old tech that is no longer used in its phones, but since the courts deem the patents valid, the battle will continue on that front as well.

HTC doesn't seem too worried by this string of bad news, and Mr Yang said new LTE devices are coming our way in the States in 2012, one of which might be the leaked HTC Ville, as well as new "worldwide flagships" in which the company is confident for next year.

source: Reuters

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posted on 28 Nov 2011, 02:36 3

1. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


First. Typical HTC. It's a reason why I will never buy any of their products. It doesn't help that they blow their phones up with the resource hogging HTC Sense and that they refuse to update their phones after six months. Lol, how long did it take the Thunderbolt to get GB?

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 02:51 2

2. Whateverman (Posts: 3196; Member since: 17 May 2009)


It took five months after launch to get Gingerbread. HTC may not be the quickest in terms of u[dating their devices, but they do update them. As far as I can recall, every device gets updated at least twice. How many other OS's go a year or more before getting updated?

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 03:28

3. Yeeee (Posts: 190; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


My Droid Incredible which is over 1 1/2 years old got updated to gingerbread. I gotta admit it is a POS compared to new phones but im glad HTC updated it anyways.

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 05:10 1

4. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


That's because the Droid Incredible was a popular phone, and iirc, HTC only updated because fans got pissed when they announced that they won't update it.

HTC is a crappy manufacturer by default simply because their UI and their sheer laziness makes it difficult for their devices to get updates.

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 05:13 1

5. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


I'd believe that except HTC wanted to lock their bootloaders to stop people from rooting their devices and updating their phones to the next update via developers.

Actually, Apple updates their devices several times throughout their lives, much better than HTC does on their phones.

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 05:57 2

6. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


No duh Sherlock, because Apple is the manufacturer of the software and hardware. But HTC updates all kinds of devices, and because Android is better, HTC is the mosty trusted brand to get, a lot better than Sammy-s**t

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 12:16

12. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Android is far from being better. It still can't even perform right despite being up to ICS at this point. Don't make excuses for HTC.

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 19:32

14. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Stop hating on the Taiwanese

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 09:19

10. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


like always miz is clueless. its apples and oranges.

its a + for apple because they are the software developer and they have a one of a kind deal with carriers that lets apple bypass carrier restrictions and directly update their phones.

Its not an "HTC hates updates", its there is a lot more involved in EVERY other phone's update process than apple's. Its a definate + for an apple device, but its the norm for every other device as they have to go through carrier delays and testing and all sorts of other things.

For as much as I like to pick on HTC and their use of crapdragons, they are among the best android updaters. The simple fact that HTC has the most customized android overlay and still manages to push updates almost always faster than the rest, gives them a + in my book.


Also, android updates rarely make the phone worse. The phone wont get updated if it doesnt test well. Cant say the same for apple devices. I remember all sorts of complaints of slow down and horrid experiences after the 3gs got updated to ios4, and even from the i4 when it got updated to ios5.

Sometimes its better to NOT update than to ruin the experience.

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:58

11. Whateverman (Posts: 3196; Member since: 17 May 2009)


@ Miz. Not actually. Apple so far has only updated each device twice, the same as HTC. The original iPhone was only updated to iOS 3, right? The 3GS will most likely get cut off at 5.0. Both companies follow the same pattern, except HTC updates their devices a lot sooner than Apple.

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 06:01

7. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Its funny that "resource-hogging" Sense doesn't slow down my 3d at all, but when I've use my iPod touch 4th gen, it is slower than molasses. Its all in the hardware, and HTC's silicone is fast enough to run Sense, while Apple can't even run its OS

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 09:18

9. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


I bought the TB when it launched which was around June I think and got GB like 6 weeks ago. That's not that bad...

Not only that, but I never really had any problems with my TB that would require an update. Maybe i'm a lucky one.

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 13:13 2

13. androidsbiggestfan (Posts: 76; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)


Need we refer to the fact that HTC was #1 manufacturer in the US, #2 was Samsung and Apple was #3. End of discussion.....

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 06:56

8. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Well, i hope they stop using grey color. Plus seeing that the Android competition is high that they would build more MS Wp. Would make "sense" to capitalize there.

posted on 28 Nov 2011, 20:49

15. supaman21 (Posts: 43; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)


i see what you did there

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