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Employees of the Broadway Apple Store charged with racial discrimination in lawsuit
According to a lawsuit filed in New York, on December 9, 2010, Brian Johnston, 34, and Nile Charles, 25 walked into the Apple Store on Broadway. The two black men, wearing "baggy jeans and large sweaters with hoods", had entered the store in search of a pair of headphones to purchase.

The men claim that at around 3:20pm, they were confronted by a white Apple Store employee in his 50's, 6 foot 2 inches in height and about 225 pounds, who invaded their "personal space" in an intimidating fashion. He said to the pair, "You know the deal. You know the deal". The employee told Johnston and Charles that they had to either make a purchase or see a Mac specialist. But before they could respond, the pair were told that they were not welcome in the store because of their race. The lawsuit quotes the employee as saying, "And before you say I'm racially discriminating against you, let me stop you. I am discriminating against you, I don't want 'your kind' hanging out in the store."

Using a cellphone to record the conversation, Johnston and Charles-by now feeling "shocked and humiliated"-were told by another employee, "Now you have to go, If you want to know why, it's because I said so. CONSIDER ME GOD. You have to go." When the duo tried to speak to a manager, the store's head of security allegedly ignored them. The pair finally found a manager and discussed the situation with him. But our story does not end here. The plaintiffs say in the complaint that, "In order to further harass, degrade, humiliate, and discriminate against Plaintiffs, the manager asked Defendant's Head of Security to call 911," which resulted in the pair being prevented from their "right to purchase property because of their race."

Johnston and Charles are asking the court for punitive damages because of "emotional pain, suffering, inconvenience, loss of enjoyment of life, and other non-pecuniary losses." The suit accuses Apple of discrimination under both New York and federal civil rights laws. Last year, another lawsuit accused an Apple Store in Orlando of age discrimination when a store employee in his 60's said he was not given a promotion due to his age.

source: AppleInsider

This law suit charges employees of the Apple Store on Broadway with racial discrimination

This law suit charges employees of the Apple Store on Broadway with racial discrimination




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posted on 25 May 2011, 14:56 4

1. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Wow is Apple that crazy to do this? See this is what happens when Steve Jobs if left alone to brainwash their employees! I am NOT shocked that Apple would breed this kind of behavior. I hold Apple responsible for this. People should be able to buy or go to an Apple store without any ramifications. Google will never do this to you. Buy Android not Apple.

lol

This was all a joke. I was kidding, but all joking aside no one should ever be made to feel this way. What they did is horrible, they are giving negative press to Apple. I am sure this is against everything Apple stands for. My good friend works for Apple & he says they in no way promote this crude behavior!

posted on 25 May 2011, 18:50 3

39. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


ya thats bad if they actually did this... but really, doesnt their story sound kinda off? Three seperate employees racially discriminated them? idk seems pretty far... i mean it is possible, but at any self-respecting company, i doubt their employees wud do this, especially at apple... also, this doesnt mention at all what the people were doing... what if they were trying to steal something... it doesnt really say their actions...

posted on 25 May 2011, 18:59 2

40. Aneasybuck (unregistered)


Finally... Some common sense...

posted on 25 May 2011, 22:33 1

47. evo-ninja (Posts: 31; Member since: 23 May 2011)


wat tha ¥£ll @Lucas777

posted on 26 May 2011, 01:12 1

50. clevername (Posts: 1431; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


It says what they were doing. They were shopping for headphones. Apple stores have great headphones especially the beats line. If this did happen then judging from the speed that Apple employees swoop on customers to help them after they enter a store it probably happened before they got to the headphones in the back of the store. Maybe they were eyeing the Macs or ipads or ipods on display on their way back, but who doesn't oogle the pretty Apple stuff when they walk in. That's why its there. And I won't even mention the recording.

posted on 26 May 2011, 02:12 3

58. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


im just sayin three seperate employees? that either had a cause or didnt happen... idk even at any company, what is the probabilty three seperate employees wud do that... and really, the recording could be so easily created... they might just wanna be in this for the money

posted on 26 May 2011, 10:09 1

62. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


The conversation was recorded on a cell phone. Ouch.

I don't think this is typical of Apple employees everywhere though. In my experience they're dicks to everyone.

posted on 26 May 2011, 18:14

68. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


i doubt u have ever been in an apple store... but thats besides the point... how hard is it to fabricate the cell phone recording?

posted on 26 May 2011, 18:29

69. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


I've been in apple stores about five times now. Yes, I had to vigorously cleanse my soul afterward.

The recording could be fabricated, but that's for the court and not you or I to decide.

posted on 26 May 2011, 01:29 1

53. messiah (Posts: 433; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)


apparently steve jobs put on some weight....

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:04 3

2. bubba78 (Posts: 54; Member since: 23 May 2011)


I say this whole story is BS. Highly unlikely that every employee they tried to talk to was racist.

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:09 6

4. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Supposedly they recorded the conversations with their phone. If that is true then what else can be said?

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:37 4

10. Aneasybuck (unregistered)


Just because they recorded it means nothing.... If all the employees were saying something then these guys obviously said something racial to the employees first and didn't record what they said... I have lived in NYC all my life and seen this kind of race bating to con businesses out of money when these people are usually the racist... After the entire incident the the store camera system is played with these guys recording side by side; these guys should then be sue within an inch of their lives... They usually are the real racist... Its kind funny that in NYC their is only racism to black people even if a black person is supposedly doing it but if a white kid gets killed or beaten while being called racial term by a majority... Then the lunny news says its ok.... Racism is everywhere... People only think of this crap because of racist people promoting this like Al Sharpton... He needs to be sued. America can get beyond this but first we need to stop telling people that they are different because of the color of their skin and promoting racist hiring practices by the EEOC.

posted on 25 May 2011, 17:25 3

26. jogutier (Posts: 324; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)


@Aneasybuck, just because you were not smart enough to think about doing something like this that it really did not happen. Things like this happen everyday and the fact that the victims recorded it was AWESOME. Get over that racial profiling does not exist and even if the victims did use racial words to the employee gives no right to the idiot employee from Apple to stoop their level. If you cannot keep your composure, then quit your job, because there are many people out there that can and are out of work.

posted on 25 May 2011, 17:46

28. Aneasybuck (unregistered)


It's a fact that there is way to false claims and hardly ever claims of racial bias in the opposing manner because of this type of racial bullying. This is why in NYC, the real winners are the law firms. By the way; I recently had an IQ test done for NYU admissions and even though I feel like an idiot. Unfortunately all it showed me is that most of the people around this area are just that dumb. PS: your composure is great to look up too. Just because you can hide behind a computer to talk of racial bias... I have a question for you? Do you thing their was racial bias in the 2008 Presidential Election?

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:20 2

5. cj100570 (Posts: 204; Member since: 12 May 2009)


@bubba78 You missed that whole recorded conversation part huh? This was all over the news here in NY last year. I'm guessing the case will be settled or Apple will toss the employees under the bus.

posted on 25 May 2011, 18:31

35. Aneasybuck (unregistered)


How about the Jewish kid who was beat two years ago in Harlem while being called all kinds of racist terms... All the media(Newspapers and Television) did was interviewed the parents of the accused who said that their kid didn't have a racist bones in their bodies. They were talking about the attacker and the story was then never pursued for more than a day because their is only racism against blacks. There is supposedly no such thing as Racism against any form of whites. Its all about spreading hate. It has been this way for some time now in NYC. I feel that people who are accusing people in most cases should be sued for racism their selves because they are looking for an easy buck. I have seen so many false claims of racism that the media jumped on. About 4 years ago a black man was shot a couple dozen times(Cops can empty a clip in three seconds) and the three cops were supposedly racist but weeks later Al Shapton slowed but still didn't stop after he found out that 2 of the cops were black and 1 Asian. Then he said that they were doing the white mans wishes... This is the crumbling society we live in... We can get beyond this if people like Al Shapton with his race baiting and his telling people to sue because they are black. This case would best be decided in court but if these men are lying about some of the facts; They should be sued within an inch of their lives...

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:35 2

8. bubba78 (Posts: 54; Member since: 23 May 2011)


No I read the part about it being recorded, but that could be anybody on the recording if it is just an audio recording, if it is video then its hard to argue that. It just seems like such an extreme case of racism. If it did happen then those employees need to be fired for sure.

posted on 25 May 2011, 16:30 1

18. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)


na, its not BS, I worked for Apple's Apple Care (tech support over the phone) first off, most of the customers are racist as well if they hear a different language/accent, im a Mexican teenager, born here in AZ but still consider myself Mexican, went to school here, graduated from high school and going to college, I have no accent, however, a co-worker of mine does have a light accent and was asked if they were even located here in the US and got crap talked to by the customer even though they have almost no accent and was of great help, now when it comes to the stores, I have to agree with the article, as a Mexican in Phoenix, AZ, I know how it is, but when I walk into the Biltmore store of a company I worked for and am looked down upon for my race, that really pisses me off, just because its a fancy store where rich white people go to shop, I've purchased an iMac, MacBook Pro, iPad 2, every iphone, black AND white since the 3G, and other products from there and still get looked down upon for my race? thats ridiculous, no one should endure that treatment, and I will honestly say, I love my Apple products but this is a case against the employees, not the company, and hopefully they screw the employees up with the lawsuit, they deserve it /rant

posted on 25 May 2011, 16:50

22. Aneasybuck (unregistered)


I don't know how bad the Anti-American teaching is but have heard that AZ is becoming one of the worst offenders where it comes to educating our children. Sounds like you have a racial issue with white people. Never mind the fact that a company is much more likely to micromanage a work for outside the country giving those rep less empowerment then an American rep who usually could do more. Also I hang up many times if a thick accent is on the other side; not because I racist but because it is felt that they don't understand where I'm coming from on most issued brought up. IE:A person who acts like a robot in India for Dell tech but I love talking to people in the Phillipines because they feel like in many cases Americans. Most White people I know are marrying people with all different types of skin color and the only racism I keep hearing about is usually out of LEFT field...

posted on 25 May 2011, 17:15

25. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)


na man i dont have a problem with "white people" lol i have a problem with ignorant human beings, just people that cant see a human as a human but has to put other things, such as color, or where they come from in front of them being a human being lol thats what i have a problem with man

posted on 25 May 2011, 17:51

29. Aneasybuck (unregistered)


Nice.... I agree...

posted on 26 May 2011, 11:38

65. forsaken77 (unregistered)


I don't think you're looked down upon because you're a different race. I think it's more likely because you're specifically Mexican and it's more of a political thing that's pissing people off in this country. Like you said... you're an American that was born here, but I'm sure you obviously know that this country is being FLOODED with illegals from all over the world, mostly being Mexican. I don't think it's because you're hispanic, but more so because people probably think you're illegal. It's unfortunate but our government has done nothing to stop the revolving door at the borders and you're grouped in with the border jumpers

posted on 26 May 2011, 01:23

51. clevername (Posts: 1431; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


@bubba only the first person said something remotely racist. And while I think there is a good chance it was racist, fact remains he didn't say a racial slur. Now the second person and security didn't say anything racist. The second person likened himself to god most likely as a way to assert his authority. So calling this bs because not everyone is racist is a misnomer at best.

@aneasybuck I totally agree that America is way too focused on racism against black people. I agree its so focused it ignores other ethnicities. However that doesn't make it less real. True there are many scumbags that use reverse racism as a tool to make "aneasybuck" but again that doesn't make this the case. And I agree that what happened before the recording should be considered however the employees should be mature and responsible enough to not be goaded into letting person bias control the actions that represent a corporation. Most retail companies make employees watch boring 2 decade old videos to avoid this.

If there wasn't any racism intended this is a good example of watch what you say, especially when you represent a prominent company

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:08 1

3. oddmanout (Posts: 435; Member since: 22 May 2009)


They need to be fired. Pronto. This is 2011... People should be over racism and discrimination by now. Its sad to see monsters like those think they are superior to anyone. Its one way to feel a certain way about someone but to take it to that extent and verbally express that feeling. Its sickening to see people like that living on their high horse without a doubt in their mind that they are wrong. I'd send them to prison for degrading a race like that!

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:28 3

6. ATTCallCenter (unregistered)


The store rep clearly said he was not being racist, he didn't want to serve the "KIND" of people they represented. Not african americans, but ghetto thug types, who are known for stealing and crime of the like. Now you see the same dressed person who is white, hispanic, anything, this rep would still act the same way.

This is the defense :P

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:42 3

11. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


You should never judge a book by its cover. Just because you dress like you said "ghetto thug types" doesn't mean they have no money & are going to steal. If you have a security system in place like most stores do then this is beyond that. Only act if you have something to act on. Looks is not a reason to act like those employees did at that Apple store! To say "CONSIDER ME GOD" to any person that is crossing the line. White, black, brown, yellow, green, blue, zebra stripe, whatever that comment is not acceptable!

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:53

12. supadave (Posts: 12; Member since: 26 Mar 2010)


Really? That is a horrible way of thinking, Oh well Verizon>ATT anyway. Come to Verizon we don't care how you dress or the color of your skin we'll respect and treat you equal regardless.

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:59

16. p0rkguy (Posts: 684; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


I guess when drug dealers with more money than your entire family enters an Apple store to buy 10 of everything, you'd kick them out too right?

posted on 25 May 2011, 18:42

38. Aneasybuck (unregistered)


I agree...

posted on 26 May 2011, 00:10 2

48. Larry (unregistered)


Whether he discriminates against their color or clothing, he still singled them out and humiliated them in public. He said it himself, "I am discriminating against you" and left it open for interpretation by saying your KIND. If he really wanted to cover his rear he would have just kept his mouth shut. As a representative of any company who deals with customers, especially a large one like Apple, you have to maintain professionalism at all times regardless of how you may feel about customers. If he wanted to refuse service to them, his choice of words couldn't have been any worse.

posted on 26 May 2011, 00:24 1

49. Larry (unregistered)


I'm not done here because you are arguing that the store rep didn't want to serve the KIND of people he represented. Really? I like to wear my pants baggy, not just loose and I too wear hooded light jackets from time to time. But I also have a B.S. degree in Information Management, while currently working towards my B.S.N. degree and you think that store rep has the right to group me or anybody else into a category that he believes exist publicly.

posted on 26 May 2011, 01:35

54. clevername (Posts: 1431; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


Ghetto thug types? Baggy jeans are comfortable and its new York, a hoody was probably the least required to stay warm that time of year. But put that attire on a black man and it becomes ghetto thug type attire?. I'm a respiratory therapist, I make $38/ hr. Have a nice house and car. But I come to work wearing my baggy "scrubs" pants and in the winter time a hoody too. If I'm at home or somewhere casual I wear baggy jeans, Baggy shirts, hoodies, and things like that. I'm far from a ghetto thug. But I was raised in the ghetto. And if my mixed heritage didn't allow me the complexion of a white man, then the image I portray would be different. Point is, the appearance means nothing. I wore baggy pants and a baggy shirt when I purchased my iPhone 4 and my MacBook air from the Apple store. And no one bothered me because of my attire.

They wouldn't bother a white man dressed like that and that's why it was racist.

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:33 2

7. p0rkguy (Posts: 684; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


Pulling discrimination in this day and age and especially in NYC is actually a serious crime. NYC is one of the most diversed places you can be in.
Those employees are definitely losing their jobs. Sucks for them because they probably had the easiest job in the world. Stand around and talk about anything Apple related.

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:35 1

9. smellsfishy (unregistered)


One thing is being racist and one thing is not liking idiots. I don't care what color they are black or whites thinking they are black, they were dressed like a common gas station/7-11 thief. If I would see one of these clowns wearing their pants around their knees, walking like a **#% penguin I would ask them to make a purchase or leave. They are disturbing the normal people. If I walk into a decent store dressed like a thug they would ask me to leave. I bet you would cry for security when these are sworming your store and steal a load of merchandise and you are affraid to ask them since every 2nd has a gun. (without permit of course)

If they want to be treated like human beings act like ones. Get an education, get a job. Of course it's easier to sell dope and knock up some girl to collect walfare. That brings in as much as a low level job and don't even have to work.

But again they knew this already. They had their phone ready to record and knew what will their appearance will cause. They just wanted some free money so they can spend more on dope :). This was a setup.

"emotional pain, suffering, inconvenience, loss of enjoyment of life, and other non-pecuniary losses."
REALLY? I get this every day driving on the road because black people can dance, sing, act, but drive like S#*T. We all on the road should sue them for loss of enjoyment of life!

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:56 4

13. p0rkguy (Posts: 684; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


Aww did somebody get picked on by a thug when they were little?
Do you only understand the world through the media?
Did someone not get an education in political history?
Sounds like you're the uneducated one.

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:56 3

14. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Guy you have got to be kidding me. WTF are you talking about? Just so you know I have friends who are black & probably drive better that you! What a stupid comment!

posted on 25 May 2011, 15:58

15. supadave (Posts: 12; Member since: 26 Mar 2010)


The funny thing is I can list names of people your referring to that are light years ahead of you in terms of intelligence. Your no different than att rep you both suck @ life.

posted on 25 May 2011, 16:45

20. getawaydriver (unregistered)


Haha, they gotta..otherwise they get caught :) Hahaha

posted on 25 May 2011, 17:54

30. mikeypopps (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)


Hey I hear you they look retarded and I regularly question their intent as well. But you should re-evaluate your view of things. I challenge you to realize that most of those kids are in high school or college and some have jobs and they aren't retarded its just the way they dress. They dont all sell dope or knock up girls or collect welfare.

I mean your giving so called highschool dropouts with dope addictions and baby mama's a lot of credit to set up and file a law suit like the one proposed.

Want to test my theory, Go talk to one of them for ten minutes about the state of the music industry. You'll find out the clothes is all a show. They're pretty much normal. No weirder than the goth or emo kids.

And that black people are bad drivers comment? Really man. Thats just plain racist and you need to re-evaluate your personal life choices.

posted on 26 May 2011, 01:45

55. clevername (Posts: 1431; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


Where are you getting all that from. The article said they were black, wore baggy pants and hoodies. It did not say they were overly baggy. Or that the pants were sagging. Black people aren't the only people that wear baggy. Baggy just means loose fit. Is everyone in baggy pants and a hooded sweater dressed like a gas station thief? You assume the negative sir.

posted on 26 May 2011, 22:02

70. cthunder (Posts: 104; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


Well two things with this was a setup. 1) The low lifes as you call them are going to get PAID! 2) These same low lifes were smart enough to come up with the so called scam.

posted on 25 May 2011, 16:01

17. christian (unregistered)


i heard Steve Jobs is half arab. This makes no fuckin sense? Most companies were founded by immigrants too! Google, Intel, Youtube, ebay. i can keep going!

posted on 25 May 2011, 16:56

23. getawaydriver (unregistered)


Immigrants built this country up and continue to do so, while the white trash and black getto lives off from government aids.
I am a European immigrant and being looked down upon all the time by whites and blacks. It's funny. These people can't even check their own mail :)
in the meantime:
http://money.gather com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474976975345
"According to a new report, one in five Americans is functionally illiterate. The National Coalition for Literacy says a total of 40 million Americans cannot manage basic reading or writing skills. These are the sort of skills required for everyday living, such as reading a bus schedule or filling out a job application.

The U.S. literacy rate is considerably lower than in European countries, and puts a greater strain on U.S. labor markets, which are increasingly global and competitive.

Illiteracy is highest in the black and Latino communities, but two-thirds of those lacking basic language skills were born in the U.S. and English is their native language. More than half of the functionally illiterate actually graduated from high school, even though they couldn't read their own diplomas..."

posted on 25 May 2011, 16:32

19. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)


na, its not BS, as background info, I worked for Apple's Apple Care (tech support over the phone) first off, most of the customers are racist as well if they hear a different language/accent, im a Mexican teenager, born here in AZ but still consider myself Mexican, went to school here, graduated from high school and going to college, I have no accent, however, a co-worker of mine does have a light accent and was asked if they were even located here in the US and got crap talked to by the customer even though they have almost no accent and was of great help, now when it comes to the stores, I have to agree with the article, as a Mexican in Phoenix, AZ, I know how it is, but when I walk into the Biltmore store of a company I worked for and am looked down upon for my race, that really pisses me off, just because its a fancy store where rich white people go to shop, I've purchased an iMac, MacBook Pro, iPad 2, every iphone, black AND white since the 3G, and other products from there and still get looked down upon for my race? thats ridiculous, no one should endure that treatment, and I will honestly say, I love my Apple products but this is a case against the employees, not the company, and hopefully they screw the employees up with the lawsuit, they deserve it /rant

posted on 25 May 2011, 16:49 1

21. remixfa (Posts: 14168; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ok, so according to this story.. these 2 "innocent" people just happened to start getting harrassed by EVERYONE at the store? THe manager called the cops? why? because they were acting all sad and not causing a scene? This story seems extremely fishy. Everyone at that store just happened to be racist that day? They just happened to pick out the only 2 black people in new york?? were they the only black people ever to walk in this store?? They just happened to have the phones ready to record and noone noticed?? Were they really discriminated on because of their skin tone, or because they looked like thugs and probably acted the part as well?
There are a lot of plot holes and questions that need answering before u jump to their defence because they scream racism.

posted on 25 May 2011, 17:11

24. getawaydriver (unregistered)


Exactly. We know nada about what really happened.
Brothers of USA,
Soon this whole country is going to be beige. No more blacks no more whites. Who are you going to sue then? Who are you going to blame then for not giving you work while you are drinking your juice or smoking your weed? What card you're gonna pull when you used up all your race-cards?

I know plenty decent and hardworking blacks, whites, latinos. The problem is the ratio. There are plenty of white trash here in the US, there are some latino thugs - but most latinos actually came here to work. Still the largest percentage of thugs are black. (lookup prison stats) You only refuse this if you are a black, white trash, a foreigner who never lived/worked here among them, or a combo of these.
One more thing whites were raised on guilt here in the US, blacks were raised on anger by Al, and Jesse and the rest of the clan. Blacks are just as racists if not more.

posted on 25 May 2011, 17:35

27. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)


you cant say that man, by your statement id guess youre a latino, just like me, and i cant say i havent had a black person i didnt like, but because of the way they were not just based on color, you cant just bag on black people, were still a minority and the rest of the people on here speaking and saying i have a thing against white people but against racists, and until youve experienced it yourself, you cant really understand how degrading it is

posted on 26 May 2011, 01:51

56. clevername (Posts: 1431; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


Only one employee said something lose to racist. The two men reacted to it. Most likely not in the best way. The second guy, or "god" reacted rudely not racist. But still wrong. Security wasn't quoted and you're right the manager was probably just stopping the scene by calling cops. Its what all managers are basically told to do in that situation. So technically only the first employee was acting potentially racist and definitely discriminating. The second was an asshole and security was probably doing his job. So to answer you're question, no not everybody was being racist. Then again that's not the claim either.

posted on 25 May 2011, 17:56

31. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Wow. I can't believe the load of crap some of you are posting right now. Do you guys think victims of rape should dress differently too? What exactly about the way a person dress makes them a thug? Baggy jeans? A hooded sweatshirt? I don't think so!

I am a large African American man and unfortunately I intimidate some people on sight. It doesn't matter to them what I ware, what I do for a living, what university I graduated from, or how perfect my English is. All some people see is a thug. That doesn't make them racist, but it is very prejudice of them to assume I am a thug. For those of you who have never seen that look, you would never really understand what that's like. So you probably feel these guys were up to no good. But this isn't the Minoriy Report, and people should be judged as thugs when all they have done was walked into a store.

posted on 26 May 2011, 10:18

63. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


*gasps* You're...you're...BLACK?! *reacts in fear and general loathing*

Lol

posted on 26 May 2011, 16:48 2

67. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)


In the immortal words of Lady Gaga...I was born this way.

posted on 27 May 2011, 08:29

72. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Hmm. It could be a good or a bad thing that her words are immortal.

I've never understood those who express sentiments similar to the one I posted in my last comment to you.

posted on 25 May 2011, 18:09 1

32. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Getawaydriver...do us all a favor and just go away. This country was also built on the backs of slaves and the blood of Native Americans, but I guess you forgot that part! I could explain to you all the things wrong with what you said, but from my experience those with a closed mind could never see or respect another person's point of view. You don't know anything about this country, it's people, or it tragic history of the people who live here. So anything you have to say comes from ignorance.

posted on 26 May 2011, 01:59

57. clevername (Posts: 1431; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


Amen!

posted on 25 May 2011, 18:14

33. MorePhonesThanNeeded (unregistered)


Lots of laughable comments in here and a some very ignorant people voicing opinions based on parroted spew from people who like to sweep the truth under the rug. Fact racism is alive and well in the good ol USA, how people like to deny it exists is exactly how you know it does. Thing about it is racist people hate for little reason except unfounded fears and what they were taught. It's embarrassing as a race of the single most intelligent species we still have yet to connect and stop using petty reasons to hate a different race. I've heard all kinds of ridiculous things, people who have a great hate for Jewish people, the usual hate of dark skinned people, dislike of Asians, Hispanic and White. It goes all the way around, until people learn to let the crap go, learn from the past and build a better tomorrow. Oh lets not limit the racism to just US either I know it's quite alive and well across the pond in Europe, while not as ridiculously denied as it is here it's definitely there.

My question is why do people automatically think that a certain hue is better than another? Look at the media, it's so bad...always displaying lighter skin as being so beautiful and being dark is somehow unwanted. It's being hammered into your minds constantly, only in the past 20-30 years has thing been changed as many of the hardcore racist and stubborn people have begun to die out.

One extremely bad showing of it is the US President, my parents watch a lot of religious programs and there were preachers out there preaching basically hate over the fact that the President is who he is, are you serious? The church of all places? This place is so far up it's own ass it can't speak without uttering pure shit. How can you tell me about love of a God who I can't see, but you are seething with rage over the choice of president and we know it's not because he wasn't qualified, he's actually one of the brightest to ever grace that office.

So we can't make people stop hating, but lets not try to pass the blame and pretend there was another reason. There is no reason for discrimination of that magnitude, a man is free to dress how he wishes, no where on the door of the Apple store does it say you must wear form fitting clothing to shop there. That is an argument that some people try to use, but it fails as I can tell you of it happening to black men dressed in suits. Anyone remember the Denny's incident with the FBI agents, ha ha ha, pretend something isn't there doesn't make it go away.

posted on 25 May 2011, 18:26

34. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)


^^^^WOW, I couldn't have said it better myself man, truth is in the end, unless you've experienced it, you wont know how it feels, like you say, why do we have to hate on each other when we are all the same lol in the end its like a chihuahua hating a german shepherd because of their color/shape/race, its ridiculous, just cuz evolution made us the way or color we are doesnt make some people better than others, or smarter than others, we need to learn to let go, hopefully in the end, these douchebags get what they deserve and fired from the Apple Store, did you know that Apple is so diverse that they have theyre call centers in country for each country? thats exactly why because like the guy on the first page said, if we hear a heavy dialect, it is felt that we are not understood, so for that reason, if you call from china, you'll get a chinese rep, from here, a US rep, so with all this diversity and acceptance, a great company such as Apple, does not need ignorant people like these employees working for them.

posted on 25 May 2011, 18:33

36. andro (unregistered)


Perhaps the men had android t shirts on,apple seems to think there are two types of people in the world,the dumbs ones,easily swayed with manipulative pr programming who they control and sell every product to and the 'other people' who shall be sued for defying them!

posted on 25 May 2011, 18:40

37. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Bravo MorePhonesThanNeeded! Bravo!!!

posted on 25 May 2011, 19:48

43. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


They forgot to mention that the white guy waited for the two black guys to turn their recorders on to make sure they record what he's about to say, lol. And then they replayed the recorded audio, but it was muffled, so they had to repeat the whole dialogue again until it was loud and clear in th recording. Not to mention that this is the first time in that store's history that a black person walked-in. And they also took a picture of the sign outside the Apple Store that says, "no black people allowed".

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