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Australian retailer Kogan stops selling the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 after Apple threatens to sue

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Australian retailer Kogan stops selling the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 after Apple threatens to sue
Despite selling iPads too, and at lower prices than others, since it gets them directly from the Chinese factories, the Australian retailer Kogan has been threatened with a lawsuit by Apple, if it continues to sell and market the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.

Samsung agreed to stop these activities Down Under until the court hearing on a possible patent infringement injunction against its Android tablet. Kogan was evidently engaged in marketing the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 heavily and received a letter from Freehills, Apple's Australian law firm, that it is infringing on patents held for the iPad with this behavior, so the retailer ceased all activity related with the Galaxy Tab 10.1.

Apple also wanted to know which entity Kogan got Samsung's tablet from, but the electronics store denied the request. David Shafer, Kogan's executive director, has commented in a statement:

There is a fine line between legitimately enforcing your intellectual property on the one hand, and just trying to stifle competition on the other - in our view Apple is very precariously walking that line.

Still, Ruslan Kogan, the company's founder (pictured on the thumbnail), has said they caved despite believing they haven't violated any laws, because they don't need a legal battle with Apple on their hands: "All we are trying to do is to provide the latest technology at the best prices. Pointless litigation is not our specialty".

Samsung is countersuing Apple in Australia for violating its own patents related to the 3G standard, in which Apple says the Koreans have planted a time bomb, so we'll see what comes out of this tit-for-tat Down Under.

source: SMH via TheInquirer

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posted on 27 Sep 2011, 09:46 6

1. Laron (unregistered)


This is crazy, Apple is really taking it to far. Good article though.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 09:46 6

2. ayephoner (Posts: 836; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


hurry fandroids,

open this article and post something so PA is encouraged to cover every such article!

hurry, hurry, create the hype!!!

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:34 3

19. OSFantasma (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)


Your kind of comment annoys the hell out of me. Its great that you don't like Android you made that clear in the past. Going at a specific group just to initiate in needless arguments makes you seem like a selfish kid that cant stay without a piece of candy to say the least. I vote for innovation not litigation and I hope the rest agree...

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 09:53 4

3. bling bling (unregistered)


all fan bois and haters of ios and bada and symbian and android and rim please thumbs this down , i just feel like having them today

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:19 9

4. lafn2 (unregistered)


You know I am really starting to want a Galaxy Tab 10.1. It must be good. Lots of advertising and worry by Apple.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:21 8

5. tigermcm (Posts: 695; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)


ok so if apple wants to threaten them for selling samsung, if i was the store ownerI would just stop selling apple too. Don't bring your drama in my store ijs

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:38 7

8. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


totally agree. "fine, i wont sell samsung.. but im not selling your crap either then."

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:11 2

17. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You sound like a savvy business man. I assume you're very wealthy?

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:49 1

21. Sniggly (Posts: 6837; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Why do you ask that, Taco? Will you make fun of him if he isn't?

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:52

24. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Because of his dumb tit for tat comment. You don't do business that way. It was a sarcastic jab at him.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:00 1

27. Sniggly (Posts: 6837; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Oh, okay, just checking. Because, you know, you DO have a history of making fun of people for not being rich. I get that if the company is making far more money off of iPads than Tabs they wouldn't be financially wise to do what Remixfa suggests. However, we are seeing companies like Verizon beginning to stand behind Samsung instead of Apple, so in some cases it seems like Apple is starting to do more damage to itself than good with these lawsuits and attempts to take its competitors completely out of the market.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:49 1

22. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


maybe I am. At least I dont live with my mom, like you.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:52 1

25. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


and as a point, i spent 10 years running a small business very successfully... so under that definition, i would be a savy businessman.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:32

31. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Oh so you must very wealthy then. I assume you're now retired? Oh wait aren't you a sales rep for T-Mobile which is an entry level position.


Wait I'm confused which is it?

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 22:20

52. paxmoos (unregistered)


Such childish comments!!!!!

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 16:19

41. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


What. You said you work for tmobile. Poser

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:53 3

26. tigermcm (Posts: 695; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)


ok I dont really post on here I just read comments and I have realized alot of tension around your comments. do you just target certain people that you want to start something with? Not selling apple products means your not a wealthy business person? enlighten me please. IMO if being a store owner and someone ask me why I dont have any ipads well I would just tell them the truth, Apple doesnt want me selling Samsung or I will be sued so I no longer carry Apple. As a customer I know I would start having second thoughts on buying Apple but again thats my opinion go ahead and bash me.....

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:33

32. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


If 90% of tablet sales are iPads and you're running a store you would not stop selling iPads. Not trying to bash you but that makes no sense.

Me and remix have a history yes.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 14:00

37. tigermcm (Posts: 695; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)


In a way I can understand if you're a small store that makes the bulk of your income from tablet sells. I don't know a store in the situation, but not selling tablets doesnt mean that the store may go under or their income is serverely impacted. thats like saying if Best buy or HHgregg stopped selling tablets their revenue is severely impacted

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 18:03 1

44. AppleFUD (unregistered)


taco50, once again you just show how clueless you really are.

Your supposition rests on the assumption that the business makes as much off apple devices as they would Samsung. What we do know is, most places make very very little off apple products (3% or less) and they have to invest a lot into marketing materials and displays.

For all we know, it could be much better business wise for this person to tell apple to shove off. we don't know, but you go ahead with your omniscient statements because it seems you know everything about everything.

And I have too agree with other commenters, you seem like some spoiled child in your room getting all butt hurt over anything and everything apple and are one of the most immature commenters on the web--congratulations.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 18:23

47. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


taco is making some good comments now to be honest but every now and then he will make a comment that just riles everyone...i agree considering the popularity of the ipad you would be pretty stupid to stop selling the ipad...even if your successful company,if you know you can make make more money why wouldnt you....also i do think if the company did not buy it from samsung directly then they should be allowed to sell it.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:32 4

6. me (unregistered)


Apple is nuts!
This is pushing it too far.
I wonder what they will do if everyone else sided with Samsung and they get sued for patents they are breaching.
Or worse, shop owners decide not to sell their products.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:36 2

7. networkdood (Posts: 6263; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Ayephoner, no need, you were way ahead of almost everyone else.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:41 4

9. so..it's like (unregistered)


Samsung sues Apple not to sell iphone,
Apple sues the shop owner not to sell galaxy.
I think theres something wrong going on here.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:42 6

10. downphoenix (Posts: 2295; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


Shame to see the store cave. Apple couldnt sue them unless an injuncture was successfully enacted in Australia and the store didn't comply with it. Of course Apple lawyers would run them into the ground because of their relentlessness so I can understand why they backed off.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:15 5

11. BuckApple (unregistered)


And this is why I will not give Apple any of my money. If this is how they treat the people who sell the device for them imagine how they will treat you the individual consumer? Hardly any better I assume.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:27 4

12. dacastrator (Posts: 232; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


Apple just can't accept the fact that people no longer like their products and they are getting bored with it that's why they are looking for something different like Honeycomb tablets.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:10 2

16. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You're so right only 80-90% of people pick up iPads. They're pretty much out of the tablet market. I love fandroid logic.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 16:16 1

40. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


read: android has 30% of market share. not so bad for a 'copycat' eh?
within a year, it's at 30%. that was a few months ago, now it could/will be higher.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 19:51

49. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


android has 30% of SHIPPED tablets not sold

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:31 3

13. theBankRobber (Posts: 645; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


Wow and people really don't think Apple is a bully need to think again. Only thing I like is my Apple ipod, that's it. Everything else by Apple is useless to me and under powered compared to my electronics and devices.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:37 3

14. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


Apple is begining to bully distributors, this is the same tactic they pulled on a kid from Queens who just wanted to get a good grade in school by selling white iphone cases he bought from the manufacturer. But rather then suing they bully and threaten.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:09 1

15. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


It was a kid in China not queens. After how you embarrassed yourself yesterday I thought you'd take a break from PA.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:21 2

30. ngo2dd (Posts: 781; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


I think you were the one there tacos. He call you out, told you were he was and you bit,h out

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:35

33. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Yes in fandroid land I was afraid of Internet threats and I'm afraid of darthball because I didn't want to travel to another state to have a fist fight with him.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:42 2

34. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


No taco the kid was from Queens NY, he bought white iphone conversion kits from Foxconn and created a web site to sell them. Now I know you talk out of your ass.

http://newsodrome.com/technology_news/apple-sues-ny-teenager-who-sold-white-iphone-4-conversion-kits-25896974

Now who looks like the idiot who makes up sh*t and doesn't have his facts correct when he spews sh*t from his mouth instead of his a**.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:46

35. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Didn't you learn your lesson? You had a public meltdown yesterday. May not want to address me directly.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:48 2

36. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


Why????? What are you gonna do about it?
you're the scared kid who hides behind his computer, not me jr.

And BTW your the one who doesn't know what he's talking about, not me China......Please, fool.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 14:14 1

38. duder (unregistered)


Does anybody else find come to PA just read Tacos comments just watch him make a douche out of himself time after time

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 14:15

39. duder (unregistered)


WOW Que grammar police lol

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 19:52

50. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


That's the second fan that's come out publicly this week. I appreciate your support.

PA may want to think about paying me. I bring a lot of traffic to their website.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:32

18. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 801; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


I kinda like David Shafer's statement, its like a quotation worth jotting down. . .

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:47 1

20. jacko (unregistered)


the Australian retailer Kogan has been threatened with a lawsuit by Apple
coz apple knows there devices are s**t and the galaxy devices will and is the best mobile devices out THAT IS WHY APPLE IS TRYING TO STOP THEM BEING SOLD

whats wrong apple u dont like people having freedom and dont like competition
and being out sold 3 to 1 in australia and its available on all carriers thats really saying something

p.s i had an is**t and it was the biggest piece of s**t that i sold it after 2 weeks for 1/4 of the price and gone to android and never looked back

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:50 1

23. Sniggly (Posts: 6837; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Well, that's funny, Apple. What are you going to do next, sue Best Buy for selling the Galaxy Tab as well?

Why don't you just piss off everyone in the world while you're at it?

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 18:04

45. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


Apple requested... and a grand jury agreed... I take you used sarcasm on the comment... please tell me it was sarcasm....

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 18:07 1

46. StupidChicken (unregistered)


your an idiot

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 18:26

48. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


hmm coming from an unregistered user named stupid chicken....right...

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:08 3

28. TKFox007 (Posts: 303; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


Apple really is trying to eliminate the competition. It's so obvious that they want to be the only touchscreen device maker, they're bullying distributors now who could probably sue for loss of business.

This like back in the 80s when they tried to sue Microsoft because they were using a GUI. When in fact Apple stole the idea from Xerox. The problem now is, Apple has made so many broad patents that they can sue anyone for anything to try and eliminate the competition.

Look at Microsoft, they get $5 for every HTC Android phone sold for patent royalties. That's not stifling the competition, that's "you used our patents, pay up." That's normal in the business world. Apple on the other hand, doesn't want royalties, they want the competition eliminated. That's worse than what patent trolls do.

I think that Kogan should counter sue for loss of business/profits because Apple is causing them to lose money. I think if stores started counter suing Apple for loss of sales, Apple would back off. Because the retailer would make Apple pay for the entire stock of Samsung devices that they can't sell and makes them pay for the shipping and man hours it would require to ship it all back to Samsung.

posted on 28 Sep 2011, 00:13 1

53. Cinnamon (Posts: 87; Member since: 16 Jun 2011)


They are trying to create a Monopoly :0

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:13 1

29. jonathanrash (Posts: 3; Member since: 26 Sep 2011)


if everyone agrees to go on samsung's side i would say apple is screwed becuse who need to buy a device made buy a company that has to sue to still stay with android and who will never give us what we want why does the iphone have worst camera on it and they say it talks better pictures then a android and why think apple is ever going to change there mind because all they have is the app store so they have to make phones that suck and go ahead and wait for the iphone to come out with a 8MP camera because android phones are already look at 10MP and up so apple is still going to be a longway off

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 16:57 1

42. smhatapple (unregistered)


i really hate apple for this reason, i can't say their products are horrible, but i prefer android, but their company is horrible...

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 17:26

43. karas (Posts: 34; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Sue the customers for buying samsung products

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 21:37 1

51. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6267; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


This is why I hate APPLE not just me everyone. The guy is trying to make some money. But GREEDY ASS APPLE will threatened to SUE him to shut his store down. I'd say FCK U APPLE!! I think we should all get together AND BANNED FROM SELLING APPLE PRODUCTS since their banning & protest Samsung around the world

posted on 28 Sep 2011, 00:53 1

54. applefocker (unregistered)


Don't be a sheep & get screwed by Steve™

posted on 28 Sep 2011, 08:24

55. the man (unregistered)


taco, u suck, please dont comment ever again

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