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Apple's shares finish in the red for the first time since 2008

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Apple's shares finish in the red for the first time since 2008
Apple's shares have long been a must own for hedge funds and mutual funds. With Thursday's closing bell, the curtain came down on the U.S. stock market for 2015. For the year, Apple stock holders experienced something that they haven't since 2008, a down year. To put this in perspective, the last time Apple's stock suffered a down year, the company was pushing the Apple iPhone 3G, and the BlackBerry Storm 9530 was supposed to be the iPhone's big challenger.

Apple closed out 2015 at $105.26, down 4.64% from the start of the year. That is a loss of $57 billion in market capitalization for the tech titan. The peak for the year was made in April as the Apple Watch release gave a temporary jolt to the stock, propelling it to $134.54. Thursday's close was down 21.76% from that high.

Despite the decline for 2015, this will be known as the year in which Apple was added to the Dow Jones Industrial Average. The Dow is the most famous of Wall Street's indices, and is comprised of 30 stocks that are supposed to represent a cross-section of American manufacturing.

Recently, some analysts have urged investors to be cautious about Apple, picking up on a slow down in the supply chain which could indicate that Apple is building fewer iPhones than expected due to weak demand. Contract manufacturer Foxconn has allegedly reduced overtime for workers, citing lower than expected holiday sales of the iPhone. Last year during its fiscal first quarter, Apple sold a record 74.5 million iPhone units. Some analysts see Apple beating that figure this year by a small amount.

The decline in 2015 is just a small blip in the long term trend. Including stock splits, the day that the OG Apple iPhone was launched Apple's stock was trading at $16.23. It is now 650% higher.
 

source: AppleInsider

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posted on 01 Jan 2016, 01:22 6

1. keithtae (Posts: 434; Member since: 25 Mar 2015)


As much as I hate Apple, they will be fine in the future. Stock down is nothing but numbers for now. They are fine tbh.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 02:02 6

8. GreenMan (Posts: 1236; Member since: 09 Nov 2015)


Ah, Come-on PA!

We're bloody geeks, not stock exchange players for crying out loud...

Honestly, I didn't understand a word of it...

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 05:56 2

32. aBoss (Posts: 105; Member since: 15 Sep 2014)


Apple wont be fine. The next year phone will have no headphone jack and be completely s**t. RIP Apple but most importantly RIP the legendary Steve Jobs

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 17:06

70. BradyCrack (Posts: 674; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)


Why is everyone pissing off around removing the headphone jack? Get rid of it. Maybe it's because I'm Australian, but I have more of a chance to find a pair of wirel

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 17:09

71. BradyCrack (Posts: 674; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)


Why is everyone pissing off around removing the headphone jack? Get rid of it. Maybe it's because I'm Australian, but I have more of a chance to find a pair of wireless headphones then cord ones. You're not stuck with the charging port.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 20:59

80. Ahovking (Posts: 710; Member since: 03 Feb 2015)


headphone jack are outdated and amazing still Analog.. It's time to move into the 21st century.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 23:05

83. joeboxer (Posts: 42; Member since: 19 Feb 2015)


True^

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 08:13 2

36. HugoBarraCyanogenmod (limited) (Posts: 1133; Member since: 06 Jul 2014)


they have billions of USD and can even speculate the currency to lower down the USD, hence the iProduct will become cheaper outside the US.

USD appreciation is the reason iphone cant sell outside US, it's more expensive due to other currency depreciation

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 12:35 1

50. torr310 (Posts: 839; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


The investors just have high expection to Apple and most of them are too greedy. Apple is still number one selling and, per reports, it took majority profit on mobile market.

If Apple isn't doing well, how about others?

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 16:21 3

63. tedkord (Posts: 11637; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Apple isn't number one selling, and haven't been for some time now.

posted on 03 Jan 2016, 15:37

111. jalebi2000 (Posts: 180; Member since: 01 Mar 2015)


apple is number 1 in profits, not selling

posted on 03 Jan 2016, 15:57

112. Scott93274 (Posts: 4605; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Actually, I believe that you're wrong. They still sell more iPhones than any other single OEM. Now if we were to reference operating systems then Android dwarfs iOS, but that's pitting a single company against dozens and dozens of companies and is hardly accurate.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 01:23 2

2. TheBiz (Posts: 231; Member since: 13 Apr 2015)


yay

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 01:23 1

3. TheBiz (Posts: 231; Member since: 13 Apr 2015)


eat my apple apple

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 01:25 39

4. Tanujtiwari (Posts: 79; Member since: 18 Mar 2015)


I gifted my girlfriend an iPhone 6. Had the best night of my life. Until she realized it was 16 gb. Ouch.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 01:33 9

5. meanestgenius (Posts: 11548; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Lmao! That literally made me laugh out loud.

+1.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 02:05 2

9. GreenMan (Posts: 1236; Member since: 09 Nov 2015)


What kind of 'girlfriend' would get laid for a bloody iPhone?
A pretty 'lousy' girlfriend, I guess...

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 04:50 6

30. FluffyBled (Posts: 514; Member since: 10 Sep 2014)


Many would lol :P

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 05:06

31. bur60 (Posts: 847; Member since: 07 Jul 2014)


I'm sorry for your ungrateful gf.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 08:10 4

35. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


16GB of non expandable storage is unacceptable by 2015 standards.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 09:54 1

41. cdm283813 (Posts: 354; Member since: 10 Jan 2015)


As a iPhone 6s owner I would say that the majority of Apple owners agree with you. What I don't agree with is Android OEM updating policy. Google should enforce a strict policy for all OEM's that access the play store. It's crazy that a Android OEM can drop support for a phone that is capable of running the newest OS. It's good for the company but sucks for the customer.
And while I may be bashing Android I do like Marshmallow over iOS 9 for phones. Android tablets on the other hand are useless.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 14:32

57. ph00ny (Posts: 1234; Member since: 26 May 2011)


So what are you missing out from the app store by not having the latest android OS? When was the last time you saw an app that required marshmallow? Lollipop? Kitkat?

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 13:46

53. Scott93274 (Posts: 4605; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Well, it's fine if it's a budget phone that you get your kid, but for a "high end" device that starts at $650... yeah, that's unacceptable in this day in age.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 16:05

62. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Yes 16GB needs to die. Google Motorola and any other OEM you need to end the 16GB standard.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 16:24 5

64. tedkord (Posts: 11637; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


See what he did there? Someone complained about the iPhone starting at 16gb, so he had to subtly turn it against Google/Android.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 16:50 1

67. meanestgenius (Posts: 11548; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Yep. I see it.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 05:01

87. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I'm surprised you see anything at all with how blinded you are.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 08:26 1

91. meanestgenius (Posts: 11548; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Says the guy that wears Apple colored shades when viewing anything concerning smartphones. You're busted. Own up to it and let it go.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 11:11

95. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


So says the BlackBerry superfan who sees nothing but blackberry. You're picking fights again that you know you can't win.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 12:21

97. meanestgenius (Posts: 11548; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Clearly you're the one that can't win here. You're even attempting to change the subject away from the fact that Ted is absolutely correct. Someone said something about the iPhone and you passively tried to put the attention on Google and Motorola, and I'm the super-fan here? Once again, your hypocrisy shines through. And as usual, you're not man enough to admit it. You'll always be a coward too afraid to own up to your constant trolling and BS.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 20:54

103. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I bet if someone said something about Blackberry, you would've been there huffing and puffing like you usually do. Everything you accuse me of can be said about you. I like how you call me a coward even though you refuse to own to your bs.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 21:23 1

106. meanestgenius (Posts: 11548; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Someone has already said something about BlackBerry in this very article. The fact that I made no retort to them proves you to be a liar, (as usual) and renders that part of your response to me invalid. I don't bring in other OEM's to conversations to distract from something my favorite OEM does. That's your shtick, and it always have been. The fact that you're STILL trying to steer clear of what you did only serves to bolster this. You're a coward and a troll and you always will be.

posted on 03 Jan 2016, 20:38

113. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


So you've never blown up anyone about anything Blackberry related? I wonder if you plan on answering that directly or bs your way around like you always do. Wouldn't surprise me if you did.

I don't have to steer clear of anything. You just wanted to manipulate my words like tedkord did.

posted on 03 Jan 2016, 21:26

117. meanestgenius (Posts: 11548; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Re-read what I said. And if you still can't comprehend it, re-read it again. I never said I didn't correct someone's BS and falsehoods concerning BlackBerry, I said that I DIDN'T DO IT IN THIS ARTICLE WHEN BLACKBERRY WAS MENTIONED. And don't think I didn't notice how you're STILL trying to steer clear of the topic at hand. Typical Mxy...deflect when he gets called out for his BS in the hopes that one forgets what they called him out on.

No one manipulated your words. Google and Motorola had absolutely nothing to do with the article. You just got your salty, stained tighty whiteys in a bunch because someone called Apple out on something so you tried to shift the focus away from Apple.

posted on 05 Jan 2016, 10:24

122. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Correct, as in blindly asserting your opinion all over the place because you're too stubborn and blind to see any other way but your own way. You are the last person to talk about anyone deflecting.

Just like Apple has nothing to do with Android and Google articles yet it gets brought up whenever an Apple fan comments. You're such a hypocrite. You're one to talk, you're the one who continues to act like Princess Blackberry.

P.S. $5 Meanest says something similar along the lines of me being an Apple fan.

posted on 05 Jan 2016, 10:38

127. meanestgenius (Posts: 11548; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Why wouldn't I say the truth? You are an Apple fan, and a blind one at that. You say that I "blindly assert my opinion...", but what do you think that you do? Hypocrite, much? And you take it a step further with your incessant trolling, as evident by what Ted pointed out. Yeah, I STILL noticed how you're trying to change the subject from the fact that you trolled.

So an Android or Google fan bringing up Apple means that you have to do the same? Monkey see, monkey do. And if I'm "princess BlackBerry" then you are most certainly Queen Apple.

$5 says Michelle tries to change the subject from the fact that he was called out due to his trolling.

posted on 06 Jan 2016, 20:22

133. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I see you're deflecting as usual. I see you're calling me a troll even though you're just as guilty of being a troll as well. Don't be a hypocrite.

BS, you don't hesitate to defend Blackberry, so why shouldn't I do the same even if I do use other platforms? Your hypocrisy is showing again.

I see you're back to parroting my lines again, Princess.

posted on 06 Jan 2016, 20:35

136. meanestgenius (Posts: 11548; Member since: 28 May 2014)


You saying I'm deflecting is actually YOU deflecting. I have already acknowledged that I troll the trolls on more than one occasion, hence, I troll YOU, troll. Now how about YOU admit that you're a troll? You won't, because you're going to keep living in denial.

DEFENDING my OEM of choice from FUD and trolls and trolling an OEM because someone pointed out something legit about them and trying to deflect away from said legitimate comment are rotally different things. I do the former, you do the latter two.

You've been mimicking me since forever, Michelle. Just like you did right now because I referred to you as a female.

And you're STILL changing the subject from the fact that you were called out for your trolling. No, I'm not gonna let that go.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 05:00

86. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Commented that 16GB should be ended, yeah I did say that. It wasn't a subtle thing at all. Just you wanting to take it that way.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 15:29

99. Scott93274 (Posts: 4605; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Show me phones from those manufacturers that costs $650 and tell me how much storage they offer. My $650 Nexus 6P has 128 GBs. All of Motorola's phones this year offer expandable storage. Your argument is flawed and invalid.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 20:51

102. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Did I ask if your Nexus 6P had 128GB of storage or not? I didn't think so.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 21:07

105. Scott93274 (Posts: 4605; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


My original statement reads "Well, it's fine if it's a budget phone that you get your kid, but for a "high end" device that starts at $650... yeah, that's unacceptable in this day in age." My statement insisted that paying the price of $650 for absolute CRAP is unacceptable. I then furthered my argument by comparing how much MORE you can get for the same price from competing phones. My comment has relevance to the conversation already in place prior to you joining the conversation. Don't be ignorant and make the mistake that you're a moderator on this site and can dictate the direction of the conversation just because I'm successful in proving your hypocrisy.

posted on 03 Jan 2016, 20:40

114. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Aka, I'm crying because I just got put in my place. I said 16GB needs to die many times. You just want to stick your head in your rear and hear only what you want to hear. You changing your avatar is proof of that.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 15:52 1

100. Scott93274 (Posts: 4605; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


If you were so adamant about ending the 16GB standard then you would point the finger at Samsung, Apple, and various Chinese OEMs that are all fighting for top smartphone manufacturer, not Google and Motorola which both hold a relatively small percentage of the market. You just hate Google and Motorola, you bring them into an argument when there inclusion has no relevance to the subject matter. All their phones cost much less than Apple's base 16GB model and offer more storage or expandable storage. The Moto X starts at $250 less than the iPhone and offers $128 GBs of expandable storage. I think that's an awesome alternative for what Apple offers. But of course, Motorola is to blame for Apple charging $650 for a 16GB device. Damn, you're such an f**king idiot.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 20:50

101. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


"and offers $128 GBs of expandable storage."

I'm going to let you look at that and see what doesn't make sense. Then you'll see who the real idiot is. Get off your f-ing tampons. I should have known you'd be your usual prissy self. I've called many OEMs about ending 16GB. I don't give a rat's a-- how much less the Moto X or the Nexus cost. 16GB is still 16GB and in this day and age, 16GB is not enough.

And you forget, mainly because you have selective memory and you're because you're being an imbecile, you can't really add apps to the SD card entirely especially if you aren't on Marshmallow where you can use SD cards as adaptable storage.

School's over kid.

posted on 02 Jan 2016, 21:42 1

108. Scott93274 (Posts: 4605; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


I'll see who the real idiot is? Yeah, I had a typo, you on the other hand couldn't get "your" and "you're" right for the better part of a year, so you have absolutely ZERO room to talk. Now who's the idiot?

And let me repeat myself for a second time. "it's fine if it's a budget phone that you get your kid, but for a "high end" device that starts at $650... yeah, that's unacceptable in this day in age." My 14 year old daughter does not need a phone with 32GB+ of storage, she gets what we give her and she'll be grateful for it. And I promise you it wasn't some overpriced $650 16GB POS.

For people like you and me who demand more than 16 GBs of storage space, then I think it's fare to say that we shouldn't have to pay $749 to get the model up from the 16 GB model.

So my statement stands as you have yet to provide any logic to argue the contrary, "it's fine if it's a budget phone that you get your kid, but for a "high end" device that starts at $650... yeah, that's unacceptable in this day in age."

It's funny that you say school's over when you just got schooled.

posted on 03 Jan 2016, 20:43

115. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Like I said before, I'll let you see who the real idiot is.

Of course, it was a POS that anyone can get out of a cereal box or a happy meal. Something that would be worth less than the 16GB pos you mentioned. You're full of sh- because the S6 are the same way and they don't offer expandable storage. You're just as much of a hypocrite yourself/

Again, school's over kid.

posted on 03 Jan 2016, 21:48

119. Scott93274 (Posts: 4605; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Are you high or just really, really stupid? Post 100, read it artard. "If you were so adamant about ending the 16GB standard then you would point the finger at Samsung, Apple, and various Chinese OEMs that are all fighting for top smartphone manufacturer" Samsung was the VERY FIRST company I pointed out, even before your precious Apple. Don't act like I'm pretending that Android OEMs aren't overcharging for small amounts of storage. Now who's the hypocrite s**t for brains? That's right, you are.

posted on 05 Jan 2016, 10:27

123. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Must be that time of the month for you. Wouldn't surprise me considering how you're always getting your panties in a bunch.

posted on 05 Jan 2016, 16:38 1

130. Scott93274 (Posts: 4605; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


lol, can't win an argument and get proven a hypocrite so you resort to PMS jokes. Typical you would resort to the one thing you're an expert in.

posted on 06 Jan 2016, 20:23

134. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


You're one to talk considering you made a dick joke in a comment.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 02:29 4

18. BATTERY_LIVES_MATTER (Posts: 103; Member since: 01 Sep 2015)


I hope she didn't realize until after sperm came out of your penis.

posted on 03 Jan 2016, 06:17 1

109. Tanujtiwari (Posts: 79; Member since: 18 Mar 2015)


Hahahah fortunately it was after the intercourse. And yeah, before you ask, we both cummed ;)

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 14:13

54. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


She left you because it was too small.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 01:36 1

6. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2468; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Knowing Apple The iPhone 7 Will Be Amazing And Completely Turn This Around. I Feel Like The s Year Shouldn't Be As Great As A New #.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 02:20 12

15. buccob (Posts: 2564; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)


The "S" year is never as impressive as the "new #" year, however I personally like more S versions than the other... They are focused on polishing hardware and innards instead of focusing on design and visual appealing.

I never had an iPhone and probably never will... But when I recommend it to friends is mostly the "S" versions...

Additionally the new # versions generally brings more hardware issues:
iPhone 4. Antenna
iPhone 5. Battery (designed directly behind the screen and when it swollen it damaged the display)
iPhone 6. Bending

The "S" version for each fixed the main design issues and improved internal components

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 02:41 1

20. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2468; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Apple Will Get It Right With The 7 On The First Try This Year. I Doubt There Will Be Any Problems Like You Mentioned. And Why Would You Not Recommend The S Version Of The iPhone, Once It's Released There's No Point In Someone Buying the Older Model.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 04:35 2

28. buccob (Posts: 2564; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)


There are always reasons to recommend alternatives.... Like budget / size / design preferences / etc...

For example, at the beginning of 2015 I recommended my best friend, who was sporting an iPhone 4 (yes 4, not 4s) to upgrade for many reasons, and I adviced him to get the 5s instead of the 6, due to price (for his budget), smaller design (his preference) and knowing that the iPhone 6 didn't have a huge difference when it came to camera, battery and performance SPECIALLY that it came with still just 1 GB of RAM... One of the biggest issues for the 6 & iOS8/9.
So at the end he is quite happy and appreciated my advice.

His next device will probably be another "S".

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 04:45

29. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2468; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


I Would Have Told Him To Get A 6, The 5s Still Cost To Much For A 2013 Phone And The 6 Is Just Better Plain And Simple.

posted on 01 Jan 2016, 12:19 3

48. buccob (Posts: 2564; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)


At that time the extra money to pay in my country wasn't worth it versus the older device... And the bigger design is not for everyone... It has the size of a +5" phone with a 4.7" screen.

For instance, in my case, I liked better both the design, materials and slightly better internals of the Xperia Z3... But I have never gotten used to that size, so the Z3 Compact was almost perfect for me, and still is.

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