Apple passes on Samsung's truce offer for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Australia, says it is just buying time
1. sooooyea (unregistered)
i am getting sick of apple already like these lawsuits are so dumb.. just step your game up APPLe dont be so freaking lame and scared of the competition.
7. cheetah2k (Posts: 1526; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
I can't believe Apple threatened Kogan too... Yet, mobicity continues to sell them. IMO, Samsung really hasn't been hurt too much by all of this, as the imports are coming thick n fast, and resellers here are dime-a-dozen.
....so fcuk you Apple
14. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
I agree with you. Their just afraid of Samsung so their only way to stop them is to sue them
2. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Should've taken the deal, Apple. Even if you get the injunction right now, Samsung will just go back to the drawing board and come out with different hardware in record time, launch a non infringing product that'll kick the once and future iPad's ass, and you'll be left with
3. bigboy029 (Posts: 74; Member since: 03 Jan 2011)
I dont know about that. The tablet world is and will be dominated by the iPad for quite a while. Phones though on the other hand, are different. Samsung has sold a ton of SGII's and will sell even more as they continue the mobile galaxy line. As far as tablets though, nothings going to touch the iPad for quite a while. Just my opinion though, I could be wrong.
4. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
The point isn't so much that the next tablet Samsung makes will outsell the iPad (though it'll probably sell better than every other Android tablet so far combined) but that Apple won't get anything more than a virtually competition free Christmas season. If they made a deal with Samsung they would probably get something to compensate for whatever customers Samsung *takes* from them, and the deal would probably continue and keep benefiting Apple.
However, now that they've rejected the deal, the most they can get is that holiday season. After that, who knows? But Samsung won't just sit still and never come back to Australia's tablet market.
8. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
by '12, the tablet market will be on hold for the ipad 3. maybe samsung can put out a competing product, but it wont come close to apple's numbers.
of course, a ton of that depends on what android can do with ICS in the tablet realm. if they can blow minds, they can win over much more of the market than in the past. but even that needs to beat the windows tablets to market. theres a lot of opportunity in the next 6 months, android and samsung need to get to work.
9. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I do agree with this comment one hundred percent. For Android to gain significant market share in the tablet market, the OEMS need to not just catch up to Apple, but completely destroy them in innovation, presentation, and customer experience.
They also need to get their marketing act together. In the small amount of time I watch TV, I see way more Apple ads than Android ads of any kind.
10. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
I dont like agreeing with you, but you're right.
To extend that point, I really think samsung needs to get away from the "galaxy #.#" naming trend. They should have let the consumers know that the 10.1 was a new device and given it a new name. They should come up with something catchy for their ICS line.
11. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
in 2012 the market will be on hold for the first true tablet-pc experience.. windows8. iOS is stale and its non-functions are catching up to it. If MS can pull off a solid launch of windows8, I think that will end up being the tablet to beat in the end.
12. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
for someone that touts themselves as bringing impartial logic, you sure are quick to sling the ihate.
apple has defined the tablet market and has ALL of the dev support on its side. it will take time to win over developers (or unify platforms) and even more time to win over consumers.
and stop with the "stale, non-function" comments. we are talking about next gen tablets. you have no idea what they have planned. and there is no sign of slippage in the tablet market share.
13. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i have a great idea of what they have planned.. its called iOS5. have you not heard of it? Thats going to be running in through 2012 till probably next fall. Unless Apple pulls a google and does 2 OS's there isnt any major game changing things in iOS5.
15. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
you're probably right. that doesnt mean they wont do something cool with hardware or battery life or 4G or some accessory.
plus, until this announcement today we dont know everything about iOS5.
and they will have 5.1 or 5.2 out by then, which you also know nothing about.
16. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
While ICS, by all indications, will be a great OS and provide Android at least a slight increase in tablet market share, I don't see people ditching the iPad for an Android tablet. Both Android and iOS are very much app driven, and the bulk of the consumers have set the precedent of the iPad being THE tablet to get between the two. As nice as ICS is rumored to be, it won't gain any major market share if Android tablets continues to serve the same purpose as the iPad - a tablet for games, apps, and entertainment.
With Windows 8, Microsoft has a chance to create real purpose for people to get a Windows Tablet: productivity, full application support, and most importantly for PC users, integration with the products they already use. What makes Apple so profitable is its ability to create products that work well with other Apple products, which encourages the consumer to buy into the whole ecosystem (also the reason we Apple haters hate the closed off Apple way).
But yeah, I wouldn't expect Windows 8 to come out until Q1-Q2 of 2013. At the earliest, we would be looking at maybe early Q4 of 2012.
6. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Btw, still think that 52 percent of Android users said they want to switch to the iPhone, according to that one survey put out a few days ago?
I mean, you posted in the same thread after I responded to that claim with proof that you were wrong, and you didn't even acknowledge it? For shame, Taco. You could just do the right thing and say, ahem, "I WAS WRONG, SNIGGLY. THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME."
17. NewPlayer (unregistered)
Apple comes out with a totally innovative product, the iPad. At that time, all Apple haters went out to say that the iPad was a lame product and that no one would buy it. Now, all of a sudden, considering the huge success of the iPad, every major electronics producer wants to design, produce and distribute iPad-like products. And now all those same Apple haters, who at first said that the iPad was not going to make it, want to blame Apple for protecting its original product?... I don't get it...