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Next Samsung Exynos tipped to be a 4GHz beast, yet more frugal than Snapdragon 830

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Next Samsung Exynos tipped to be a 4GHz beast, yet more frugal than Snapdragon 830
Samsung is apparently testing the next generation of its Exynos mobile chipset line, presumably the Exynos 8895, and it is shaping up to be a big leap ahead in mobile computing. While the Exynos 7420 in the Note 5, and the 8890 in the Note 7, are both built on the 14nm nodes, with 8895 Samsung will reportedly enter a whole new era of 10nm chippery.

The result should be a sharp increase in performance, but, more importantly - a drastic drop in overall power consumption. How sharp of a boost in speed? Well, the source tips that Samsung is probing the test batches of Exynos 8890 at the whopping 4 GHz for the powerful custom cores, and no less than 2.7 GHz for the eventual Cortex-A53 ones in a big,LITTLE architecture. This is about a 30% increase from the 8890, which was being tested at 3 GHz maximums. Of course, these are the peak clock speeds, which will likely be capped a lot lower for a retail handset, but they still show the potential of the 10nm production process to deliver huge power jumps without blowing up the roof. 

We mention the potential for overheating, as, at the kind of mobile processor clock frequencies we are at now, Qualcomm has trouble producing its flagship Snapdragon chips in a way that is sustainable in terms of power and thermal efficiency. Adding to this observation is the source's tip that, at 4 GHz, the Exynos 8895 achieves the power consumption of the upcoming Snapdragon 830 at 3.6 GHz, which bodes well for the Galaxy S8, Note 8, or whatever phones Samsung decides to equip with its 10nm chippery.

Next Samsung Exynos tipped to be a 4GHz beast, yet more frugal than Snapdragon 830
source: I IceUniverse (Weibo)

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posted on 09 Aug 2016, 07:30 24

1. dubaiboy78 (Posts: 181; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


Just wooooow

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 09:05 4

26. Kumar123 (unregistered)


I think this is fake rumor. But no matter how good the exynos version maybe they will always use the SD version for some region as long as Qualcomm keep using their foundary.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 13:18 4

41. L0n3n1nja (Posts: 95; Member since: 12 Jul 2016)


They didn't use SD in 2015, so I wouldn't say always

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 22:21 1

48. deewinc (Posts: 338; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


Exactly.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 07:33 4

2. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1026; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


chippery

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 07:35 1

3. wargreymon (Posts: 752; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


Weird that they aren't using A72?

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 07:42 1

4. ibend (Posts: 5391; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


Snapdragon and exynos been using their own custom core since S7 :-/

A72 is for mid-ranger chipset like SD652, SD650, kirins, and helios.. the same for A73

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 07:51 5

6. PenTiltoKet (Posts: 352; Member since: 18 May 2016)


This is NOT 100% right.

The SD650/652 were using the 28nm and clocked only 1.4GHz/1.8GHz. If Qualcom using 14nm for the SD650/652, they could clock it higher, perhaps at 2.2GHz/2.5GHz, and will be as good as the 820.

The whole 808/810 overheat is not the Arm Cortex A57/A53 or A72/A73 design fault. But the fault of Qualcom design team that were NOT good enough.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 08:13 1

18. wargreymon (Posts: 752; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


Well, I guess you can look at it that their design team wasn't good enough, but I would mostly blame the 20nm which was leaking too much. There is a reason Nvidia and AMD stayed away from it, but maybe those have sucky teams too?

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 08:11 1

15. wargreymon (Posts: 752; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


If you read the article it says A57 and A53. A72 is faster and more efficient than A57.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 08:34 1

24. ibend (Posts: 5391; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


(it doesn't say A57)

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 17:58 1

47. wargreymon (Posts: 752; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


It did, they changed it 2 times after I wrote my comment.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 08:11 5

16. sarcastic_nerd (unregistered)


They are using their custom cores that are based on ARM designs. There is no way the A72/A57 will reach 4 GHz. They will use the new processor design ARM will release this fall.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 08:16 7

20. wargreymon (Posts: 752; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


The article said A57, now it says A73, but source just says "large-core". I should have known better than to trust PA to get their facts correct before writing an article.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 07:50 3

5. Settings (Posts: 1804; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


I would choose the Snapdragon Samsung over the Exynos coz it lags less.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 07:58 16

7. senseiJ (Posts: 163; Member since: 02 May 2015)


Proof? Because I saw a video of exynos being faster than snapdragon.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 08:06 6

13. ebilcake (Posts: 671; Member since: 16 Jul 2016)


is it one of those infamous "Speed tests"? if so it's down to poor optimization from Samsung.

After-all the OnePlus 3 is now faster with Snapdragon 820.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 09:46 4

33. HomerS (Posts: 224; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


The Oneplus 3 is only faster because of the faster animation speed, when returning to the homescreen and switching between apps.

The Exynos chip opens apps as fast as the S820 and games even faster.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 10:09 1

37. ebilcake (Posts: 671; Member since: 16 Jul 2016)


Not convinced it's just down to animations, it's a factor but there is more going on.

Would be interesting to see a test with them disabled.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 17:27 2

46. Settings (Posts: 1804; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


Not all things in the Internet is true especially reviews. Real life personal experience matters.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 08:04 13

12. WPX00 (Posts: 368; Member since: 15 Aug 2015)


Have an Exynos S7 and have no idea what you're talking about. It's not only faster but also more efficient. The S820 is a chip more equivalent to Samsung's last gen Exynos 7420 than the 8890 is in CPU performance.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 08:15 5

19. ebilcake (Posts: 671; Member since: 16 Jul 2016)


Check out Erica Griffin's OnePlus 3 review.

it's been confirmed in many tests on youtube the OnePlus 3 barely throttles at all while devices like the Galaxy S7 and others do.

For sustainable performance OnePlus 3 is king, at least when it comes to Android phones.

Maybe they're just dispersing the heat better than Samsung's design.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 09:09

27. keithtae (Posts: 454; Member since: 25 Mar 2015)


Yea, that's because she tweaked the settings on the one plus herself and there's a probability that the phone will overheat with constant use. That thing is a 6 gig phone and can't even perform properly. Shame on one plus and those snapfiredragon

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 09:15 5

28. ebilcake (Posts: 671; Member since: 16 Jul 2016)


What are you suggesting? She changed settings to make the OnePlus 3 throttle less? That would need a new kernel for a start, one that changes or allows these settings to be changed.

Hilarious!!

Samsung defense force out in numbers again I see.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 09:36 2

30. j2001m (Posts: 2984; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


The battery on the oneplus goes down big time, I be thinking that's why it is not limited, you can ro. Up the Samsung CPU and max it out also problem is the battery goes down big time like the oneplus

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 10:00 2

35. ebilcake (Posts: 671; Member since: 16 Jul 2016)


Performance on the Galaxy S7 has been shown to drop 25% after 15 minutes, that's not something I would want.

Not claiming SD820 is more efficient because it's clearly not based on information we have, but it's not an Apples to Apples comparison if one device throttles more aggressively.

Maybe the thermal limit for Exynos 8890 is just lower as result of a design choice from Samsung.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 09:53 9

34. HomerS (Posts: 224; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


The Oneplus 3 has a 3000mAh battery, which takes up less space inside the phone than the 3600 mAh battery in the S7edge and therefore has more room for a better heat dissipation, as both have a similiar body size.

And the Oneplus 3 also has to push less pixels with a 1080p display compared to 1440p on the S7edge, which heats up the phone less.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 10:03

36. ebilcake (Posts: 671; Member since: 16 Jul 2016)


Good post.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 15:53

43. ebilcake (Posts: 671; Member since: 16 Jul 2016)


Only thing I would add here is that the OnePlus 3 is thinner so taking that into account I'm not sure if it's true the battery takes up less space relative to the size of the phone.

OnePlus 3 is probably able to disperse heat better because of the metal build vs the glass/metal build of the Galaxy S7 Edge.

posted on 09 Aug 2016, 16:15 1

45. sissy246 (Posts: 2285; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


My note 5 has the exynos and it is very fast special after marshmallow update with no lagging.

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