Verizon has kicked Samsung Pay out of the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge (updated)

Verizon has kicked Samsung Pay out of the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge (updated)


UPDATE: Verizon's spokesman came out and said that the carrier hasn't blocked the Samsung Pay framework: "Samsung Pay is supported on the Verizon S7 models. It's accurate that it's not a preload but we have not blocked or prevented the app from working on the device. Once it's available for download, customers can add or remove it whenever they'd like."

Carrier models of the new Galaxy S7 and S7 edge come with so much bloatware, as usual, that they take away from the already cluttered experience that is Samsung's TouchWiz coat of Android paint anyway. Not only do you have, say, two of everything, like two email clients or two gallery apps, or, in the case of Verizon - three messaging services - but adding insult to injury is that carriers have removed apps they don't see fit with their business strategy.

No app on the new phones means business more than Samsung Pay, and that's precisely the one Verizon strong-armed Samsung to remove from their version of the S7 and S7 edge. You see, Verizon was a member of Softcard, the US carriers' mobile payment initiative that got folded into Android Pay last year, so it's not that it has a potential revenue generator on its hands with it.

Samsung's superior payment system works with the existing merchant equipment, so it might be a matter of time before Samsung lets you reload its Pay app on the new phones via the Play Store. The good news is that you can sideload it as an APK file, though it remains to be seen whether this will make it fully functional to serve as your in-phone magnetic stripe credit card.

source: Reddit via SamMobile

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53 Comments

1. iushnt

Posts: 3066; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

"already cluttered experience that is Samsung's TouchWiz coat of Android paint anyway" really PA..

6. Arch_Fiend

Posts: 3944; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

It's true that Tw is cluttered.

13. Ashoaib

Posts: 3269; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

some people are in complete denial... touch wiz do contain extra apps and that is a reality... I will request brainless fans to please stop acting like a kid

27. uggman

Posts: 58; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

if you dont like touchwiz, you can always use another launcher, ahh the glory of android, and FYI GS7 is still a great phone touchwiz or not.

29. joeytaylor

Posts: 957; Member since: Feb 28, 2015

Or buy a different phone from a different manufacturer. ....nobody is forced to buy a phone from Samsung

48. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

No one said it didnt have extra apps. But ti isnt cluttered. I dont want an Android phone that expensive to come with only basis apps like IOS and Vanilla Android. That is why I buy Samsung devices only. Once it as not the case. I use to love HTC until they took a terrible direction. Samsung was the only logical replacement for my needs. I hate Vanilla OS' because they are boring and have no good features.

47. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Really? WHERE. Give an example? All USA phones from every OEM is cluttered except for the phone they love. The iPhone Apple has prevent carriers from putting their apps in the firmware. If the carriers wants an app on the iPhone, they need to make that app avail on the App Store. I think every OEM should do this. The icons should only be links to sctaully download and app. It shouldnt already be preinstalled. Hwoever, Samsung Pay is a feature of the phoen fropm the OEm and is 1st party and should be on every phone. Verizon should have the power to prevent it from begin their. That si why I left their ass. I cant stand VZW in this regard. They do have great service otherwise, but it just isn't worth the headache. When I buy a phone I want 100% of the native features as the OEM describes. So far on ATT and T-Mobile do this which is why I switched to T. I would never go to ATT...EVER!

51. adamvzwez

Posts: 51; Member since: Mar 29, 2015

just disable the apps it takes like maybe 5 minutes TOPS

7. NonFanBoy

Posts: 180; Member since: May 28, 2015

Its just a cliche that everyone likes repeating. Just because a phone has extra features, it doesn't make it cluttered. Most of them are turned off by default and are accessible in settings if a user wishes to use them. I know several people who have no idea about most features but buy flagship Samsung phones mainly for the brilliant camera, screen and reliability in terms of after sales service. They are very happy with their phones and find it fairly easy to use. Then there are power users like me who enjoy using those extra features and explore their smartphone. Neither of them find it cluttered. I guess Daniel P is just an iFan or not smart enough to navigate through a fairly simple smart phone.

9. HonestRealist

Posts: 196; Member since: Jan 25, 2016

You do know that there are FAR more average Joes who just couldnt give a s**t, than there are power users right?

26. NonFanBoy

Posts: 180; Member since: May 28, 2015

I don't think you understood my comment. I repeat : "I know several people who have no idea about most features but buy flagship Samsung phones mainly for the brilliant camera, screen and reliability in terms of after sales service. They are very happy with their phones and find it fairly easy to use. "

31. HonestRealist

Posts: 196; Member since: Jan 25, 2016

Sigh... I got you. Clearly you dont get me. Bleh, I'm not a shepherd, so whatever :)

2. Unordinary unregistered

*#^%+ing Verizon. FFS.

8. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

The #1 in carrier bloatware and branding strikes again.

18. Unordinary unregistered

I'm seriously sick of Verizon. I'd switch to TMobile in a heartbeat just to save $150 a month, but the service/coverage is not so hot where I live unfortunately

24. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Yeah I've heard lately that coverage is the only major problem of TMobile.

33. MKeditor

Posts: 97; Member since: Dec 10, 2010

I've heard this before and I'm sure that those who live or work in remote areas could be effected. Having said that, I travel the world and love T-Mobile. Last year in the USA I was in Portland, LA, Chicago, New Orleans, San Francisco Orlando and NYC with no problems. Traveling internationally with T-Mobile is fantastic! I no longer have to use pay-as-you-go simple cards now that T-Mobile has coverage in 70 countries. I've used it successfully in the UK, Australia, Canada and France. I'm not a TM fan boy. If another carrier can do better, I'll switch. But for now, TM is killing it.

38. QWIKSTRIKE

Posts: 1457; Member since: Mar 09, 2010

They shine in major cities but when you leave the city area it's a wrap for their service... Two family members are proof when we leave NYC for the Poconos they lose service until we get back into the city.

3. tyrionTheWise unregistered

Can anyone from US answer me this: Since you're not getting carrier subsidised phones anymore, is there a reason to not get the international unlocked variant over these bloat packed carrier ones?

5. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

In the case of Verizon (and Sprint for that matter), which still uses CDMA for the lionshare of it's voice service, an international variant wouldn't be able to make calls, unless they went the route of the recent Nexus devices or the MXPE that have all US carrier bands on board, including the CDMA ones. At the very least, they would need to be like the HTC A9 which had Verizon's LTE bands to do VoLTE for calls, but I don't know if that would work either, since HTC gave up on making the A9 work on Verizon.

14. Ashoaib

Posts: 3269; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

simple solution... Don't purchase a phone from Verizon

44. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

That's a narrow minded comment. There are many people who don't have the option of another carrier. We just got AT&T a few years ago, before that Verizon was the only game in town. Even now AT&T's coverage in our area is somewhat lacking. But everyone assumes that we all have access to four carriers, and that just isn't the case.

19. tyrionTheWise unregistered

Well, that's too sad. I don't think any carrier here using CDMA for the longest of times.

37. TBomb

Posts: 1205; Member since: Dec 28, 2012

I also think the issue is that Verizon has to approve of the phone via IMEI# to work too so if you bring a phone that's not purchased form them, all they have to do is not allow it. ^^^^I think

45. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

I'm using a Nexus 6p on their network and have no issues. The Nexus 6, 6p, 5x, and the 2015 Moto X Pure Edition will all work on Verizon with no problems. I know 100% that if you have your own sim card you can just swap your card in and it will work, and in many cases Verizon employees can activate a new sim card for one of these devices,even though technically they're not supposed to.

46. TBomb

Posts: 1205; Member since: Dec 28, 2012

Then why would I have a phone that has supported bands get no service when i put in my current SIM card?

53. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

Which phone is that and are you sure it has supported bands? For one the HTC A9 said it was going to work on Verizon but they just gave up on making that work, and it would've been half a$$ed anyway since they only supported the LTE bands, not any of the CDMA. So far, the only Android devices that work on Verizon's network and are unsupported are the Nexus 6, 6p, 5x, and the Moto X Pure Edition 2015. The Nexus 6 is supported, but you can use a model bought from sources other than Verizon and have it work.

40. DnB925Art

Posts: 1167; Member since: May 23, 2013

Also you don't get Samsung Pay on international variants. For now only the carrier-branded Samsung Phones can use Samsung Pay. Plus on T-Mo, for example, you won't have native T-Mo WIFI calling since it's baked into the ROMs by T-Mo.

43. tyrionTheWise unregistered

But you get non-bloated UI, and much faster updates. Also the global variants usually have better battery life( less bloat -> better battery and performance).

52. adamvzwez

Posts: 51; Member since: Mar 29, 2015

I have verizon and pay 31.66 for my 64 GB galaxy s6 and get a 25 dollar line access discount. I paid just the taxes on my new phone and my bill only went up 6.66 a month for the device (6.66 x 24 months= 159.84) which is much cheaper than paying 760 for the device outright. I work for the company and this is the hardest things for customers to get into their heads.

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