Oracle considering purchase of webOS as further ammunition against Android

Oracle considering purchase of webOS as further ammunition against Android
Four sources have confirmed to Reuters that HP is currently taking advice from Bank of America as it weighs the sale of its webOS division. That news won’t be shocking to anyone who has followed the webOS saga, but this might: one of the companies speculated to be interested in buying webOS is said to be Oracle.

Oracle doesn’t seem to have any strategic interest in creating their own mobile platform. Instead, the move would most likely be used to provide Oracle with more leverage in its ongoing legal battles with Google over Android.

The sources said HP expected to sell off the division for much less than the $1.2 billion they paid for it in 2010. Given the exorbitant prices that patents have been fetching of late, it would seem that a bidding war could not be ruled out.

HP acquired several important smartphone patents when it purchased Palm, and it’s likely that the IP could use asserted against a broad range of mobile devices. It’s hard to say how many additional targets Oracle might have in mind, or even if they will ultimately end up purchasing webOS, but one thing seems clear: we will be seeing more lawsuits in the mobile ecosystem in the future.

source: Reuters via intomobile

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36 Comments

1. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

I think i will become a lawyer... I see a bright future there... $$$$

5. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

i always wondered exactly how much these patent laywers get paid.. i wonder just how big their yacht is... and can it hold their Ferraris so they can take it all to a foreign port.

10. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

The going rate in the S.F. Bay Area starts at around $500/hour for experienced associates and goes to north of $750/hour for partners. The average cost to take a case to trial (through trial verdict but not any appeal work) is around $2.0 million depending on how aggressive you want to get prosecuting the patent infringement.

19. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

are you serious??? i might just change my degree again.. lol

26. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

The $ numbers are what I am paying for a A-level national firm to process current applications that I have pending with the U.S. PTO. The $2.0 million number was what was quoted to me as a ballpark budget number when the initial verdict in i4i v. Microsoft was announced. BTW, the $2.0 million number is just the legal fees. There are costs and expenses to add in as well.

36. corporateJP

Posts: 2458; Member since: Nov 28, 2009

Considering you're already an a$$hole, you're pretty well qualified.

2. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Hoping Oracle gets some big money from these thieves

4. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

considering how often apple gets busted for stealing code, you dont have a leg to stand on. put 2 and 2 together.. if Oracle's position is to become a patent troll and milk OS's for some money with palm's long held patents, its only a matter of time before they go after iOS. Watch what you wish for, you just might get it.

12. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

The scuttlebutt on Oracle's case v. Google over Android infringing the Sun Java patents is that Larry is wanting $1+ Billion.... Got to cover the acquisition costs (of Sun) somehow.

13. maxican16

Posts: 364; Member since: Sep 29, 2011

Your comments are a joke. Thanks for the laughs!

3. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

oracle has turned into a patent troll.. go figure.

9. The_Miz

Posts: 1496; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

Maybe because Android violates some of their parents?

21. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

miz, if they were violating ORACLE patents, they wouldnt be trying to buy WEBOS to try to have patents to SUE with. They are buying other patents to try to find ammo, because they have none with their own patents.

33. Gemmol

Posts: 793; Member since: Nov 09, 2011

your wrong, they are winning the court case already this is just for major damage, did you not read the articles with oracle and android talks

34. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

they arent winning.. its either win or lose. Its a catch 22 case. When android first started using the oracle code (java was free to use at the time), they were allowed to by its previous CEO with his blessing. When the company changed leadership, they closed the open java code and tried to sell it. Since google had already been using it for free, they started demanding royalties. Google has already offered out of court settlements, but oracle wants more. They smell the blood money and they want it. This was just paraphrasing from memory, so if there is any inaccuracies, then forgive me.

11. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

Which is why there is a lot of interest nowadays in patents - for defensive purposes as well as offensive.

6. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

4. remixfa posted on 13 min ago considering how often apple gets busted for stealing code, you dont have a leg to stand on. Care to share some documented examples?

7. JonnyV

Posts: 17; Member since: Nov 08, 2011

@ taco50 NewsStand, swipeable Notification Bar, Cloud Sync, and Reminders app just to name a few.

15. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

You obviously don't understand the difference between code and feature. Apple has had cloud services for ten years. Reminder app? That's like saying android copied Apple by having a phone app and web browser. I'll give you notifications though

22. iankellogg

Posts: 155; Member since: Jun 15, 2011

mobileMe was a joke and hardly considered the modern definition of cloud services. to be fair, google just recently got into the cloud business themselves.

30. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

taco, google was the first major company to jump head first into the cloud.. apple is a follower..

31. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Apple had cloud services before Google. You're wrong as usual. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MobileMe Originally launched on January 5, 2000, as iTools, a free collection of Internet-based services for users of Mac OS 9, Apple relaunched it as .Mac on July 17, 2002, when it became a paid subscription service primarily designed for users of Mac OS X.

35. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

thats not the cloud, thats tools on the internet. And if you REALLY want to go there, google has had tools on its google.com start up page pretty much since the beginning. "in the cloud" generally refers to storage outside of normal sources like hard drives, cds, and other "local" media... not to a few apps on a web page which have existed LOOOONG before 2000.. lol

18. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

uhh.. hmmm... Nokia Xerox Samsung Motorola HTC (and google by proxy) Eminemhttp://www.zdnet.com/news/report-eminem-sues-apple-for-copyright-infringement/157841 Chineese writershttp://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20111005000040&cid=1104 some bandhttp://patentsind.blogspot.com/2011/08/apple-accused-of-copyright-infringement.html chineese encyclopediahttp://www.china.org.cn/business/2011-05/27/content_22658073.htm multiple anti trust and anti monopoly cases Apple and AT&T Mobility antitrust class action Creative Technology patent dispute Typhoon Touch Technologies touch screen patents Kodak v. Applehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._litigation St. Clair Sues Apple For Copyright Infringementhttp://www.mactech.com/content/st-clair-sues-apple-copyright-infringement S3 has hit Apple with yet a patent infringement lawsuithttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/s3-htc-patent-infringement-graphics-rendering-vga-controller,13586.html Design infringement on the ipadhttp://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/02/chinese-ipad-maker-threatens-to-sue-apple-for-plagiarism/ Apple Getting Sued For Trademark & CopyWrite Infringement over iCloudhttp://mobilenewsnow.net/apple-iphoneipad/2011/6/13/apple-getting-sued-for-trademark-copywrite-infringement.html VIA sues Apple over infringing on three microprocessorrelated patentshttp://investorcentral.us/investor-central/via-sues-apple-over-infringing-on-three-microprocessorrelated-patents.html The Beetleshttp://technista.tumblr.com/post/607484481/a-thin-line-between-greats-kanye-west-vs-steve-jobs And thats just the first few pages of google search on the subject out of dozens of pages.. and i didnt even include some of the wackier ones like the iBird lawsuit. Get your head out of your butt and quit pretending that apple is somehow superior.

8. JonnyV

Posts: 17; Member since: Nov 08, 2011

Smartphones have been in existance since 1992, when the Simon was introduced by IBM. Countless other touchscreen phones followed. Apple didn't create the Iphone until 2007. So I would say Apple stole a good deal of the technology from others. I have no stance on whether Apple is better than Android or vice versa and could care less about your incessant trolling. Just get your facts straight before you try to flaunt your almighty Apple products.

23. JonnyV

Posts: 17; Member since: Nov 08, 2011

Resorting to personal attacks now? I am curious, do you have any other purpose on PA other than trolling? If you are attempting to upset me, sorry to say, you will fail.

32. s.mrabet

Posts: 147; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

Taco50, everytime I read one of your comment, it seems your head is getting deeper in Steve Job's ass.

14. AhmadAlsayegh

Posts: 326; Member since: Jul 18, 2011

to all stupid corporates, you are misusing technology!

17. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

I am really sickened by the thought of WeBOS being reduced to patent troll status. It is a jewel among crap right now. I hope anyone other than Oracle gets it. HP desearves to take a huge, painful loss for their stupid inability to make this work.

20. putes

Posts: 38; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

webOS is cursed... kill it before it hurls the Earth into a super massive black hole.

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