Leaked roadmap shows Qualcomm could bring out its 64-bit processors by this year's end

Leaked roadmap shows Qualcomm could bring out its 64-bit processors by this year's end
It seems Qualcomm doesn't have much idle time to spare. The silicon slinger's 2014-2015 product roadmap that popped up on China's Weibo social network shows the company is preparing to give its lonely Snapdragon 600 chipset some 64-bit company.

The Snapdragon 610 (MSM8936) and Snapdragon 615 (MSM8939) are scheduled to appear on the market by this year's end. Both are made on 28nm technology and have the Adreno 405 as their graphics arm. However, the Snapdragon 610 has four Cortex-A53 CPU cores clocked at 1.8GHz, while the Snapdragon 615 is an eight-headed beast that sees the aforementioned cores joined by four additional A53 cores clocked at 1GHz.

The Snapdragon 800 will get new 64-bit friends as well. Between the second and third quarter of 2015, the Snapdragon 810 (MSM8994) and Snapdragon 808 (MSM8992) will become available to manufacturers. The Snapdragon 810 is an eight-core processor backed by the Adreno 430 GPU found in the rare Snapdragon 805. The Snapdragon 808 is a less powerful, but not modest at all hexa-core (six cores) processor backed by the Adreno 418 GPU.

With these time-frames in mind, it's logical to assume that the first 64-bit Android phones powered by the new Snapdragon 610 & 615 processors could start showing up as early as Q1-Q2 2015. The more powerful Snapdragon 808 and 810 could appear in products from the second half of 2015. This is how it played out when the Snapdragon 600 and Snapdragon 800 succeeded the good ol' Snapdragon S4 Pro back in 2013.

Qualcomm isn't one to hold surprises, so if you are interested in reading more about its upcoming processors, you can do so straight from the company's page.


via G For Games

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30 Comments

1. iluvsonynokia

Posts: 161; Member since: Aug 27, 2013

come fast dude

2. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

Thats NOT what she said! Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

11. fanboy1974

Posts: 1345; Member since: Nov 12, 2011

In my case I'm always told to hurry up. Sometimes I can go for an entire hour. And yes; I timed myself. There's only so much one can take young padawan.

24. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

Then your not doing it right. I have gone several hours before, both of us having "finshed " several times until we both collapse in bilss worn out and I have never had a complaint about taking too long.

30. Reality_Check

Posts: 277; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

How about we keep the discussion to tech -_-

14. aayupanday

Posts: 582; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

The beginning of third paragraph shows how boring 2014 has been so far. The only noticable upgrade in the SD800 line is going to come in H1 2015. SD801 and SD805 are just the 'Plus' versions of the processor that came in Q3 2013. I'm using a SD800 device and can say that this chip has almost equal performance to the aforementioned chips. In short, Qualcomm Skipped a year to come up with enhanced processors.

3. renz4

Posts: 319; Member since: Aug 10, 2013

Q2 or Q3 2015? I thought that 810/808 will be in actual device much earlier than that ( some rumor suggesting actual phone using 810 will be start selling in Q1 2015). If it really comes much later than that then it will compete with 2015 SoC from other. Also how much improvement going from adreno 305 to adreno 405? Although I'm sure 405 will get OpenGL 3.1 and Google AEP unlike adreno 300 series families.

8. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Considering the Snapdragon 610 and 615 are supposed to be the successors to the Snapdragon 600, the Adreno 405 should be an improvement from the Adreno 320, which is more than twice as powerful as the 305.

21. renz4

Posts: 319; Member since: Aug 10, 2013

So does it mean the A53 core will be faster than the Krait core in snapdragon 600? Will adreno 405 beat adreno 320 performance?

25. janno

Posts: 144; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

They are not really successors, though, other than the name. 1.7 Ghz Krait 300 should be a bit faster than 1.8 Ghz Cortex A53 (should be something like 5600 DMIPS vs 5400, but in reality, it's probably a little faster than that). Adreno 405 is definitely a low-end GPU, successor to Adreno 305, not Adreno 320. Adreno 420 will be the successor to Adreno 320. But despite arriving 1 year later, Kepler should still be faster. These are just Qualcomm's stop-gap 64-bit chips, because Qualcomm was caught completely off-guard last year by Apple with its move to ARMv8. I think it's funny how even 2 years after Apple's A7, Qualcomm won't have a 64-bit chip of their own to show. They clearly had to go to the drawing board when they saw how powerful Apple's A7/8 and Nvidia's Denver will be.

29. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

It seems silly that a SoC in the same class (600 series) released a year later would be weaker than the 600. I don't know what Qualcomm's doing, but I don't like it very much.

4. iluvsonynokia

Posts: 161; Member since: Aug 27, 2013

MEDIATEK is getting better day by day

15. Suo.Eno

Posts: 556; Member since: Feb 17, 2013

I'd reserve that judgement until we see what MTK can deliver for Android One's program in terms of AOSP/GPL compliance.

17. fireblade

Posts: 717; Member since: Dec 27, 2013

Nah, someday you will hate mediatek because of its GPS & no updates.

19. redmd

Posts: 1903; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

True to that.

22. rishabh_2795

Posts: 25; Member since: Feb 22, 2013

I dont know whats the fuss about the mediatek GPS issue. I use a mmx Canvas 2 colours which has a Mediatek MT6582 chipset. BUt i have never ever felt the issue of incorrent location. Infact i used the gps and maps for navigating to my new college for the first 2 weeks that too in Mumbai and my experience has been really pleasant. Yeah "maybe" it might take some time detecting location in comparsion with other phones but i never had issues with it and has helped me a lot everytime!

5. uzimafioso

Posts: 467; Member since: Jul 15, 2014

Well if this pans out then the next Q1 flagships will be disappointing and the Q3 might have some hope... Anyway it looks like by 2016 all Android phones will be on 64-bit architecture...

6. vincelongman

Posts: 5611; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Seems Apple, Nvidia and Samsung are all going to leapfrog Qualcomm this year Come on Qualcomm, dont get lazy

7. .KRATOS.

Posts: 440; Member since: Mar 15, 2013

So we won't see then a 64bit soc earlier, like on the nexus 6.

9. JakeLee

Posts: 1021; Member since: Nov 02, 2013

CA53.... Is it a joke?

12. Tsepz_GP

Posts: 1126; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

They aren't meant to be for low and mid end smartphones, hence A53. -_-

10. Tsepz_GP

Posts: 1126; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

Oh dear, that means the Snapdragon 805 will be seen in the flagships unveiled at CES and MWC, glad I'll be getting the Note 4 then as it will have S805 and the more powerful Exynos 5433, I'll gladly get the Exynos, it's like 2011 all over again. :) So we won't see a Note 4 killer until 2nd half of 2015, and that will be when the Note 5 will arrive anyway, lol.

13. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

"So we won't see a Note 4 killer until 2nd half of 2015...." At least the 1 year product cycle from Sammy seems unchanged. Unlike Sony with its 6-month obsolescence mode.

16. Tsepz_GP

Posts: 1126; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

Indeed! This whole thing works in Samsungs favour actually, they can focus on making Exynos even more powerful in the 20nm process while Qualcomm lag behind, so Samsung won't have much pressure, and at some point I expect to see them using only Exynos in the high end even in the USA as they did with the Note 2.

18. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

Exactly. Now since Exynos has become LTE capable there is not reason why they'll include snapdragon in their flagships unless ofcourse its due to production issues.

20. redmd

Posts: 1903; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

What advantage does 64-bit processors bring to the mobile phone performance? Is it more important to focus on shrinking the die further to get better power and battery performance?

28. janno

Posts: 144; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

About +20 percent IPC, 10x AES encryption, 3x SHA2 encryption, support for 4GB RAM at the high-end (which it was time to get soon anyway, and easier to just get ARMv8, than ARMv7+ extensions) and of course, future-proofing (cleaner architecture).

23. someperson

Posts: 3; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

as far as I know Snapdragon 410 lonely Snapdragon 64-bit chipset, no?

27. janno

Posts: 144; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

Cortex A53-based, so yes.

26. janno

Posts: 144; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

> It seems Qualcomm doesn't have much idle time to spare. Umm, I think they do (or they think they do), considering they'd be releasing their first 64-bit chip a YEAR AND A HALF after apple.

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