CyanogenMod founder Steve Kondik confirms locked bootloader on AT&T's Galaxy S4

CyanogenMod founder Steve Kondik confirms locked bootloader on AT&T's Galaxy S4
Steve Kondik, of CyanogenMod founder fame, confirmed without any doubts that the bootloader of the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S4 comes locked. Unfortunately, that means it will take more time for developers to unleash the power of custom ROMs on the handset, but they always get there, so no sweat. 

Here are Steve's musings on the locked but not loaded matter, and bear in mind that he recently left Samsung being on the fence with precisely the S4, while just last week he had nice things to say about the HTC One.


source: SteveKondik (G+)

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28 Comments

1. yowanvista

Posts: 341; Member since: Sep 20, 2011

One more reason to buy the international version instead of the carrier crap bloated devices. Why can't the U.S use unlocked devices like everyone from the rest of the world?

3. MikeG77

Posts: 426; Member since: Nov 24, 2008

If At@t locked the BL that def means that Verizon did.

5. tedkord

Posts: 17453; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

If AT&T didn't lock the bootloader, it still means Verizon did.

8. MikeG77

Posts: 426; Member since: Nov 24, 2008

LOL true.

14. sum182

Posts: 229; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

made my day lol

12. kozza3

Posts: 778; Member since: Oct 17, 2012

because people are still blinded by the bright light of carrier subsidies...

22. HDShatter

Posts: 1021; Member since: Jan 17, 2013

Honestly your paying more for the phone going through subsidies. its like a loan, there giving you the phone cheap but in the end your paying $1000+ to them for it.

2. MikeG77

Posts: 426; Member since: Nov 24, 2008

I wish someone would just step up and sue all the carriers and the manufacturers. There is no need in my opinion to lock the bootloader down unless a customer buys a phone using a subsidy. Now if i buy a phone at retail i should have an unlocked bootloader, no carrier braning and no carrier software.

10. McLTE

Posts: 922; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

LOL.. you just invalidated your own argument. 99.99999% of the users DO purchase phones using subsidies.

15. MikeG77

Posts: 426; Member since: Nov 24, 2008

actually i didnt...look at my statement i was saying that if you buy a phone at retail that a phone should not have any carrier branding, bloatware or a locked bootloader. Yes there is a high # of people who buy subsidized phones but its not 99.99%. The cell phone carriers job is to provide service for OUR devices not force us to use there crappy over priced services that no one wants.

23. HDShatter

Posts: 1021; Member since: Jan 17, 2013

A majority buy subsidies, the smart ones pay full price up front and end up paying less.

4. bucky

Posts: 3794; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

Locked boot loader = locked wallet.

6. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Like only 5% or less will care about the bootloader being locked.

7. MikeG77

Posts: 426; Member since: Nov 24, 2008

That may be true but that doesn't make it any less important.

9. Mxyzptlk unregistered

it's not important

11. McLTE

Posts: 922; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

less than 5% of the population buy's high end performance cars.. should we quit making those too?

16. MikeG77

Posts: 426; Member since: Nov 24, 2008

Mxyzptik what kind of phone do you use and are you in the US or overseas? If its not important why would Apple offer an unlocked iPhone if its only 5% of there user base???

17. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Those are two different meanings of unlocked and I am a proud US Citizen.

18. MikeG77

Posts: 426; Member since: Nov 24, 2008

actually no its not. An unlocked phone is an unlocked phone assuming were talking GSM bands. Now im assuming that you use an iPhone and thats fine but i guarentee that if Apple did something like this that affected you i doubt you would be satisfied with the answer you gave earlier.

20. tedkord

Posts: 17453; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

They're taking about the bootloader, not the carrier frequencies. The bootloader on every iPhone is locked.

21. MikeG77

Posts: 426; Member since: Nov 24, 2008

carrier frequencies are not locked down and thats my point. If you bought an UNLOCKED phone but it was locked to a certain carrier people would be pissed.

27. EclipseGSX

Posts: 1777; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

The only thing that's not important is YOU

13. kozza3

Posts: 778; Member since: Oct 17, 2012

i would like to see the actual numbers

19. scsa852k

Posts: 331; Member since: Oct 16, 2012

There are millions who root their phones and run custom ROMs on their Android devices, but there are more casual users who have no idea how to root their phones and just use the way phones come out carrier locked. But AT&T certainly got a little cocky here to pull a Verizon move here with one of the most popular android phones here.

24. HDShatter

Posts: 1021; Member since: Jan 17, 2013

A majority of people that run custom roms would have the International version.

25. richguypoor

Posts: 3; Member since: Jan 14, 2013

Doesn't the international version lack LTE ability? I'm hoping to get my hands on a 64gb LTE version that will work with At&t and have LTE, but the buttheads making those decisions aren't making it easy for me.

26. james1

Posts: 97; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

I hope T-Mobile version is unlocked bootloader!!!

28. brd8951

Posts: 26; Member since: Nov 23, 2011

I saw his lips moving, but all I heard was, "...blah, blah, blah, blah...". Didn't understand a word he said. LOL.

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