Apple may soon let you hide unwanted iPhone apps
posted by Michael H. / Apr 06, 2016, 8:32 PM
Some code hunters found in iTunes that Apple had added new keys to iTunes metadata that imply Apple is working on allowing users to hide stock apps. The specific keys are: "isFirstParty" and "isFirstPartyHideableApp," Of course, you'll notice that "hideable" is not the same as being able to remove an app that you don't want.
Tim Cook previously explained that the option for removing a stock iOS app was a complicated issue because "some apps that are linked to something else on the iPhone. If they were to be removed they might cause issues elsewhere on the phone." So, it appears that the way around that issue is to allow users to hide stock apps not remove them.
The smart money is that this new feature will be part of iOS 10 which means most users will have to wait a while. iOS 10 is undoubtedly going to be announced in beta as part of Apple WWDC in June, but it won't be going for a full release until September, if Apple's usual time table holds.
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Nice, one less need for Springtomize, one step closer to matching Android...only a few thousand more features left to implement, or simply integrate Cydia with iOS.
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 8:38 PM 9
You troll. Don't you mean a few thousand more bloatware and redundancies of android?
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 10:04 PM 3
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Lol, cry me a river AlikMadik...you can stick your head in the sand and remain ignoramus all you want, but I've experienced it first hand and never once could I ever deal with that stupidly restricted stock iOS through out over half a decade of using iPhones. Up till today, stock iOS is too dumb to even do multiple things dumb phones were capable of. Including system wide automation, quick-switch profiles for multiple hardware/software components, Bluetooth file/media sharing, central file management, being used as a flash drive, etc. It's just restricted for simpletons...
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 11:26 PM 7
.... and I've experienced android first hand - and none of the changing fonts and icons really interests me when I can have an OS that looks clean, sharp, and consistent. iPhone multitasks much better jab flagship androids - see videos on how much faster iOS reloads apps. There are always several tasks running on iOS - you should stop being an "ignoramus". System wide automation, you mean the way iOS handles all notifications, and tasks, and other background management? or how you can fully automste your house? Or the way iOS knows where it's at to insure you're reminded of somethinmy. Profiles for Multiple hardware software components - you want to explain to me why I would need that? Becaus never once I said - hmm I need this!!! File sharing and file management of ANY FILES is not baked into iOS but there are countless apps with anything you need either file management, or sharing of native and non-native files if you wish. I don't use any - I prefer to use cloud (just a preference), but if you must - trust me it's as easy as adding an app. Never to the day have I had any issues sharing any files with anyone iOS or android. Just to prove this to someone - I've even downloaded a torrent file and shared it to an android device - check file managers and downloaded - there are solutions for everything you need - no jailbreak required. But once again - I prefer using a cloud and a home set up NAS. I can easily store files on my iPhone - ANY FILE! - like a flash drive. I do this once in a while and I don't even use wires to drop these files on my phone for offline access. Please give me something more difficult. I find android to be more restrictive especially when you gotta root your device just to enjoy ad blocking on your native browser, or root just to get an update when it's released, or Ina Uluru to control permissions for apps (marshmallow FINALLY let you guys have that - but only 4% of all android users are lucky to have it - the rest are still in stone age when it comes to real control). No control over who prints a log on your phone or ads their own carrier software/bloat. No control over apps that just start on their own and do crap in background. Both os's got ther "limits" and both can be rectified with a little knowledge. But you are really pissing me off when you call iOS users simpletons because they don't use smartphones like ya geeky nerd like you! When I need to go extra function on iOS - I have no issues doing what I need to do. Please stop - we have this exact argument all the time - and tired of typing the same thing over and over. The thing a you listed are either unnecessary for anyone or can be done on iOS if necessary. Maybe different implementation - but not impossible or hard!!!
posted on Apr 07, 2016, 1:30 AM 0
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Like I said before, stopped reading right after the first paragraph. Since iPhonearena deleted the previous replies, here is the response to your civilized question again: "What is it that you do that you need these on android, and iOS implementations wont work for you: " System wide automation - Similar to what Activator from Cydia offered, I use it to automate Silencing/Vibrate/Volume level, WiFi/GPS/Bluetooth/NFC antennas, Screen Brightness, background sync, etc. based on my location and weekly work schedule, in order to effortlessly avoid interruptions in meetings and save battery through out the day. Quick-switch profiles for multiple hardware/software components - If I leave work early for any reason or I'll be going on a long trip to get to my work place (which is out in the field anywhere a powerline is in need of troubleshooting), instead of manually worrying about Silencing/Vibrate/Volume level, WiFi/GPS/Bluetooth/NFC antennas, Screen Brightness, background sync, etc. I just toggle my "On The Go" profile and it sets all of those as I want. Bluetooth file/media sharing - Similar to what AirBlue Sharing from Cydia offered, I use this countless times to share files/media between my Surface Pro 2 and OnePlus One, especially when out in the field. Take a photo on my OnePlus One, send it to my Surface Pro 2 and import it to my OneNote where I can take more notes on it and better keep track for future reference. Plus, I can't count how many times I've shared photos/videos with friends/colleagues be it at home, in the field, on the bus, or just in the office, without any worries of using up my limited data. I wish T-Mobile were here in Canada to exterminate the latter worries, but I'd still be using Bluetooth for the former task. Central file management - Similar to what iFile offered but a lot easier now, I'm able to add files and contents from different apps/sources and manage them all in one place without going back and fort between apps worrying about duplicates. Plus, since it's central, I can use one great app for editing/saving files/documents/reports into the central file system, then another app detects those changes in specific directories and syncs them with specific directories on my NAS or my Surface Pro 2, via the standard SMB protocol. Being used as a flash drive - Similar to what PwnTunes offered but again a lot easier and more reliable, I use it to receive/shear files/media from/to other work or campus computers which can't share over Bluetooth or if the file/media transfer is going to take much longer with Bluetooth. Also, it's like a smart flash drive, I can get a document/file from one computer, do some slight edits of the document/file before transferring it to another computer. I also use it with my Surface Pro when say I want to transfer a NAND Image Backup of my OnePlus One to my Surface Pro for additional Backup. There you have it.
posted on Apr 07, 2016, 2:57 AM 1
So all this just to turn on vibrate and manually set brightness? Transfer files between devices automatically? And managing fines on your hardrive? Why so much work to do something that's so simple on iOS? I take a photo and it's on my iPad ready to edit automatically. I want to share a file that's on my PC while in Mexico or at work or on the road - well I have acces to it all including files that iOS does not read natively. I can back them up on my iPhone and send them to whoever I need to. I have starred documents on my phone and finished them on PC. This is all set up on iOS (with NAS set up on PC). It's all done natively or one app away. Seems like you do a lot of set up just to access synced files. I transfer files between my PC and iPhone wirelessly without iTunes. I just prefer it that way. I'm trying to understand why you go they all the hassle just to access files from various devices. Is there a lot of bundled files or are they too big to transfer with basic methods, NAS to phone via wifi or Internet? Or there are apps that let you transfer using BT, but I got unlimited data - so never really care for that. When I need my phone to be silent - I hit the silent switch on the side, autobrighness never gave me issues that I needed to adjust manually. But if you must do all those things with android - I'm glad you found workarounds. BTW. I really appreciate a detailed reply, not joking.. I've noticed a lot of times when people refer something that iOS cannot do - most of the time it does it differently if natively, or just an app away.
posted on Apr 07, 2016, 3:22 AM 0
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"So all this just to turn on vibrate and manually set brightness? Transfer files between devices automatically? And managing fines on your hardrive?" That's all you picked out of it? Ok...enjoy your iDevice.
posted on Apr 07, 2016, 4:13 AM 1
in all seriousness, look at this example: "Quick-switch profiles for multiple hardware/software components - If I leave work early for any reason or I'll be going on a long trip to get to my work place (which is out in the field anywhere a powerline is in need of troubleshooting), instead of manually worrying about Silencing/Vibrate/Volume level, WiFi/GPS/Bluetooth/NFC antennas, Screen Brightness, background sync, etc. I just toggle my "On The Go" profile and it sets all of those as I want." If I leave work early, my WiFi switches to data, unless another known wifi is in the area then it switches back. BT is always one if I need it right then, turn off via Control Center if I dont. GPS is always ON - well because I always use it for location based reminders, navigating, and keeping track of my family. Screen brightness turns on high automatically and dims based on where I'm on, and there's never anything going on in background on iOS devices that you didnt launch - only the stuff you authorized via app permissions when you set it up initially. If you do this to save battery - great, but with iOS if I must have one place for all settings to save battery - I just ForceTouch on settings app, in context meny select "battery" - DONE! Everything I need running, internet, GPS, screen and processing management is all running and adopting automatically based on what's being done at the moment, and lowers consumption in other areas if not necessary - you can run low power mode the entire time and not notice the degraded perfomance - yet it extends battery anyway... Quite clever, especailly if I'm in Low Power Mode and want to play AfterPulse - it automatically allows extra juice to graphics processor and I never need to switch off Low Power Mode Profile as it will automatically go back when I leave the game... Everything you described is kinda done automatically based on initial set up... Why would you need to manually select modes?
posted on Apr 07, 2016, 8:38 AM 0
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ios is so restrictive on certain things it's not even funny. I was bored out of my mind if not for jailbreaking and tweaking it just to operate the way u want it to and simply function android like. lol.
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 10:11 PM 5
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Am I out of line to ask for a complete removal of unwanted apps on the device I have pay for in cash?
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 8:58 PM 2
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No device can give you that unfortunately.
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 9:13 PM 1
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False. Some rims do allow removal of all apps except required by the system. How long have we been able to do this Android? Apple all out of original ideas.oh wait they've never had an original idea. If iOS is slowly just going to become like Android, why not just get one in the first place. After all why pay and arm and a leg to have a phone without those features we all have? Android spent 2 years becoming like iOS, and iOS is taking a decade to be what Android was from almost day one. Apple must be laughing their butts off at people. Google took free open source software and gives it away and runs ads, Apple takes the same and closes it and makes you pay through the tongue and cheek and gives nothing almost in return. Apple charges $25 to upload my music while Google let's me damit for free and I can stream it on any platform. While Apple charges and I must have an Apple related device. That's just greedy and they aren't even offering anything better. Streaming radio was free, then Apple.found a way to charge for it. This is just unreal.
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 9:35 PM 5
Removing some apps will affect other apps for example. You can locate or share location with people in iMessage, if you remove find my friends - it will not work right (or work at all). I don't ever click on find my friends app - I either do it this iMessage or as Siri where my daughter/wife/friends are. But apps like NEWS I don't use and will not affect other functions of the phone so they can be disabled/hidden already. Just train of thought to share with you.
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 10:08 PM 0
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another innovation.. other OEM really need to follow Apple's footstep.. its kinda obvious but i'll leave it here >> /s
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 9:31 PM 5
Dude why you trolling, half of the apps can already be hidden and disabled from springboard in restrictions menu. It's been like so for a very long time - I've hidden apps in my iPhone 3GS
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 10:09 PM 1
I'm sure Ray S. is working on his article on why this means the iPhone is not worth $800. Unless iOS automatically creates that "useless apps" folder and you have out of the box, he has to be upset. If you are irritated by the fact that you have to take 10 seconds to change the default weather settings on one device, having to create a "useless apps" folder must be annoying. Not being able to hide useless apps must make him irate. Oh well, I'll have to wait for his article to find out. http://www.phonearena.com/news
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 10:05 PM 2
On android you have to put all the bloatware in app drawer - how is that different? At least on iOS you can create as many different folders to organize your stuff - every android I've used - it is a mess in the app drawer half of apps you never installed - just was there when you bought your device and cannot remove. Why are you bitching when you got a worse problem?
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 10:12 PM 2
Give me an example of system apps you're talking about? But don't bloatware still show up in app drawer? Can you disable/hide all of those? All I was saying is this guy complain that you can create a folder to put any apps in there - some make an "extras" folder and put some of the unremovable apps that they don't use in it, and I was referring to the app drawer on android that people do exactly the same thing - but all gets cluttered in there. Just making a comparison to his redicule.
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 10:27 PM 1
"some make an "extras" folder and put some of the unremovable apps that they don't use in it, and I was referring to the app drawer on android that people do exactly the same thing" I had no idea people made folders in the app drawer. I have to learn that trick. "But don't bloatware still show up in app drawer? Can you disable/hide all of those?" So, you start asking questions after you unleash a full paragraph of nonsense. Your "ready, fire, aim!" approach always ends up exposing you for the being the blind follower you are. If you're going to hate something, at least know why.
posted on Apr 06, 2016, 10:47 PM 4
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