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Will the Apple iPhone 7 feature this game changing technology?

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Will the Apple iPhone 7 feature this game changing technology?
According to a report published today, a small start-up company named Energous has shaken hands with Apple to bring its WattUp technology to the iPhone. Reportedly, Apple will have the exclusive rights to the technology, which allows devices to be charged wirelessly from distances as far away as 15 feet. The Energous chip is added inside a device and is so small that it won't affect the size of the phone.

The chip works with a transmitter that can be placed anywhere in a room. In other words, if the WattUp chip is placed inside the Apple iPhone 7, and you put a transmitter inside your office, your phone will spend most of the day charging. If you put a transmitter in your bedroom, it will charge wirelessly all night and even in the morning while you get dressed for work or school. If Apple has the exclusive for WattUp, it will also allow the company to garner a new source of revenue by selling the transmitters to those with WattUp enabled iPhones.

Energous has previously targeted 2016 or 2017 for the commercial launch of its product. If it is not included in the iPhone 7, it just might be found in the Apple iPhone 7s.

We should point out that neither Apple nor Energous have publicly disclosed that there is a partnership between them, which means that talk of an Apple exclusive is just that, talk. Louis Basenese of Disruptive Tech Research is the one who has found some evidence that Apple is involved with Energous. Early last year, the company signed a pact with an unnamed company described as being one of the top five consumer electronics firms in the world. Basenese used a process of elimination to come up with Apple as the unnamed company. He starts with a list of the five possible candidates, Apple, Samsung, HP, Microsoft, and Hitachi.

"From that list, we can easily eliminate HP and Hitachi, as they don't make phones. Since Samsung makes its own chips and WATT is working with TSM, we can cross it off the list, leaving only Apple and Microsoft. In reality, though, Microsoft is an also-ran in the mobile phone market and rumored to be exiting it. So we're left with one company. Of course, the identity will remain a mystery, as AAPL's notorious about insisting on secrecy with partners and employees."-Louis Basenese, Disruptive Tech Research

Whoever ends up with the technology, WattUp could be the thing that revives global smartphone sales in the neat future.



source: Energous, NYPost

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posted on 17 Feb 2016, 21:09 1

1. MrElectrifyer (limited) (Posts: 2192; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)


Finally integrating WiTricity's technology into their product line:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRQ_kJtNB4Q

Innovative...

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 23:15

17. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3262; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


its to early for this still 1 to 2 years away from perfection due to heat from always charging and soc pulling its going to heat things up hahaha and there will be alot of fires from this

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 23:33

19. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3262; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


the problem is the lines of flux from other items around the magnetic wave/"resonant" could be helt up and interfere with older homes with aluminum wire with less insulation or un-shielded cat 5 or 6 cable or u59 and gr6 and 11 not grounded properly, i really and to see if there are a few companys making headway with this Microsoft has the same thing but still its all about a year away at best look at fold screens its been 11 years since the first prototype was shown at mit

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 00:40 1

27. rick_mobile (Posts: 216; Member since: 13 Dec 2010)


I'm wondering what the frequency of the electromagnetic wave will be, the radioactivity and it's effect on the body. If it is strong enough to induce current from that short distance then it's probably not that intense, hopefully. Which means that it will probably charge pretty slow.

Nonetheless, it will constantly be charging wireless which is very convenient.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 01:04 1

28. AlikMalix (Posts: 5084; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Is it possible that the device will stop charging itself when it reaches 100% (you know, like it does with the cord), and maybe automatically wait till it's at 95% to start again (so it's not consistently recharging that 0.01%)?

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 02:18 1

34. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2705; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Another issue will be battery life over time. Li-ion batteries wear out quicker if you charge them to 100% every time and this will keep em charged over and over again to 100%

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 02:44 1

37. AlikMalix (Posts: 5084; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Well change my post to charge to 80% and stop... W/E, just calibrate automatic start stop to best optimize the life of the battery - either way - THIS is the wireless charging I was waiting for, not the toothbrush technology.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 03:15

39. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2705; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Nice of you to have been waiting, but in the mean time I enjoyed the 'wireless' charging. Who cares if it's toothbrush tech, MagSafe is a slow cooker and fondue pot tech, doesn't mean it wasn't a great thing when Apple used it.
Of course long distance wireless charging is easier than inductive charging, that's where evolution of tech comes along. Doesn't mean we have to diss older or current tech.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 05:17 2

44. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Oh I don't know, I think it's perfectly fine to diss old/current tech if it's just a gimmick. Marketing s**t as wireless, making it seem as if it would make s**t more convenient when all it does is root you to a single spot. So one night you're laying in bed, and you wanna use your phone, laying down comfortably, but it's low on power, and has to mate with it's damn dock which is stationary as fcuk. Yup perfectly fine.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 05:34

49. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2705; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


There are downside to inductive charging, true. But just have spots where you usually are (in my case, nightstand, work desk, personal desk and sidelamp) and leave it on there, keeping it charged between 40 and 80% is added comfort For me that beats connecting a cable to it. That doesn't mean I don't welcome longer distance charging. Still need multiple spots, but it does charge when you are using it, making it even more convenient.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 05:51

51. RaulBlas (Posts: 36; Member since: 31 Mar 2014)


I think it's just the opposite... the lithium batteries last longer if you keep it charged. Google it.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 05:57

52. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2705; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Charge often is good for lithium-lion batteries. Running them almost empty and/or charging them to the max isn't'. Best thing for those kind of batteries is keeping them charged between 40% and 80%.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 08:16

63. Cicero (Posts: 855; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)


Don't forget about charging cycles for batteries. It will be dead faster.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 08:23

64. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2705; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


A battery has a limited number of charging cycles before it gets worse. But those numbers are full charging cycles, charging it often between 40 and 80, don't account for a full charging cycle. So that doesn't impact the battery life more than full charging cycles.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 02:28

36. rick_mobile (Posts: 216; Member since: 13 Dec 2010)


Anything is possible, with great precision too.

Just look at the video, it can start/stop charging with the touch of a "switch" in the app.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 05:42

50. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2705; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


It does look great and a lot of stuff that is manageable, also rules out any issues over full charging and wearing out the battery. It would be a shame if they would decide to be exclusive to Apple, the entire smartphone industry should benefit from a tech like this. Looking at the screens, they did develop this with all platforms in mind.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 23:54 1

25. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3262; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


its funny that intel and foxxconn and others are investors and samsung is an investor in powerbyproxi same thing but bigger company

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 00:04

26. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3262; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


http://powerbyproxi.com/consumer-electronics/proxi-3d-in-device-charging-system/
these are out all ready AA battery that are wireless charging to put in any remote or tech that takes AA old items and others as well

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 21:14 3

2. dancheung77 (Posts: 192; Member since: 28 Jan 2015)


Wire free! Now that's the real wireless charging I'm so looking forward to.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 01:05

29. AlikMalix (Posts: 5084; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


So what are we gonna call it, if inductive charging is called wireless already?

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 01:23

31. Wiencon (Posts: 1775; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)


Retina charging or iCharging ;)

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 02:48

38. AlikMalix (Posts: 5084; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


LoL, it was stupid when they called it Retina Flash. But u do know that others will follow this REAL wireless charging, what then?

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 05:02 3

43. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2705; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


It's not like others aren't in the process of developing this tech either. There are multiple version of real wireless charging. It's called evolution of tech. Not only Apple will be buying this. They just make the headlines more.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 02:20

35. dancheung77 (Posts: 192; Member since: 28 Jan 2015)


Wirefree charging sounds spot on

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 21:16 24

3. htcisthebest (Posts: 145; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


Ever since the iphone 4, "Apple" and "game changing technology" never exists in the same sentence...

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 01:12 4

30. AlikMalix (Posts: 5084; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


What is "game changing technology" in your mind? So called "wireless charging" that's as advanced as my toothbrush?

I don't want a phone without a Fingerprint Sensor ever again, and it also moved every manufacturer to embed FP sensors into their homebuttons. Everyone is also SLOWLY moving the mobile 64bit, I bet FT screens will be the rage of Android next year. And have you seen the games they're making for latest iOS devices like AfterPulse. Also explain why Note 4 struggles to run RR3 with missing polygons and framerate dropping in minutes, but I can run it smoothly all day long on iPhone5s (not to mention 6s)?

You guys are all about what you can see, icon changing and fonts, but there's a lot of tech that goes behind the scenes... iphone 6s kicks ass with fraction of specs, and somehow has longer battery even though it's smaller on 6s than it is on 6...?

There are more things to tech than changing icons and fonts, buddy...

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 04:55 1

42. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Because it's easier to wait for others to develop the technology, witness their failure to push it out to the market, and learn from that. Then take the technology at little to no R&D cost, focus on repackaging and it push it out with near guaranteed success. Then sit on an even larger pile of cash.

Innovation does not equal Invention.
Apple is an innovative company.
Sony is an inventive company.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 05:21

46. AlikMalix (Posts: 5084; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Sure.. Is that why Google turned 180 and rebuilt Android (that they bought) to be touchbased instead of BB type OS? Is that why Google made Android Market almost a year after App Store.

You must have forgotten that all tech inside any phone was developed by little companies and bought out by big ones and rebuilt to fit their own product (that's why they rebrand it). I bet Sony, out of all companies has a longer acquisition list than apple or google.. I'm not putting Sony down, I'm fully aware of things Sone done for the Tech world in the past. But saying that Apple hasn't invented anything is just biased...

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 11:05

66. htcisthebest (Posts: 145; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


Well said. Apple thinks Samsung stole its technology. But the truth is Samsung only "stole" the iphone's exterior design, not the technology within it. It is really Apple that steals technology from Windows Phone and Android phones.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 07:20 1

54. Macready (Posts: 843; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


"Also explain why Note 4 struggles to run RR3 with missing polygons and framerate dropping in minutes, but I can run it smoothly all day long on iPhone5s (not to mention 6s)? "

No such problem on my old Exynos Note 4 (many hours of fun) at native resolution, let alone 1080P (choice=key), but with less than 5 times the pixel, it'd be a travesty if that 5S couldn't run RR3 without issues.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 07:32 2

56. marorun (Posts: 3163; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Poor Alik you need to understand what are taken into consideration for games.

Vulkan is out and comming to android and is a low level api for direct GPU access so this kind of situation will be solved.

As i countlessly explained android is a virtual machine running over linux so the software has a hard time accessing directly the hardware.

But Vulkan as direct GPU access in fact even more direct than metal thats apple use.

Finally note 4 struggles to run some game at full fps because its has much more pixel to run. you know my wife laptop can run same game my gamers laptop run but i run them at 1080p+ she run them at 720p or less you know how resolution affect games right Alik? My moto x play run RR3 smoothly at 1080p.

As you said to others.. you dont know what goes behind the scenes of the game you play thats quite sad for you :)

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 11:36

67. AlikMalix (Posts: 5084; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Same damn argument - different guy... Resolution is great; resolution is the culprit; resolution is the best thing since touch screen, resolution makes my phone lag.

Dude, that's another point - but like I said, my 5s and 6s are sharp: sharp images, sharp pictures, sharp games and text. And I don't suffer from blaming my lag issues on resolution. iPhone 5s has lower resolution, but it also has fraction of the specs - so tit-for-tat...

My point wasn't to fight you on resolution, my point was that iPhones do make strides- and great leaps (but go ahead pick s**t out of context, ignore what I'm replying to, and carry this conversation into the same BS argument we have over and over and over again).

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 11:00

65. htcisthebest (Posts: 145; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


You don't necessarily need fingerprint sensor for security. Look at what Microsoft did with iris scanner on their Lumia 950 series. That's amazing technology! It's more advanced and less prone to hacking than fingerprint scanner and it works in dark environments too.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 11:40

68. AlikMalix (Posts: 5084; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


You missed my point - look at the comment in replying to... And I prefer an FP as it unlocks while I'm picking up my phone or taking it out of the pocket. If you like to constantly give your phone a stare to unlock - that's your business, while I don't even see my home screen anymore unless I tap the power button to wake the phone instead of home screen. It's just more convenient.

My point was (and you must read the comment I'm replying to first), Apple has been introducing "game hanging tech" every year because android manufacturers all follow suit to implement that same feature year later.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 02:04 3

33. kambuto (Posts: 62; Member since: 09 Nov 2015)


I feel sorry for your poor(literally) soul. You either live in 2000 and late or you are just another Handroid and Giggle poor slave.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 05:20 2

45. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Because they're afraid of the state they will be, unlike google search, and windows, all apple product are considered immature it mean there's a lot of competitor trying to denominate apple position in mobile market. With attack from left and right apple doesn't have any choice but to play it safe, and hoping to score another innovative technology.
Also on separate note all argument that Apple/Steve make world better by not investing or terminating philanthropist program is such a bulls**t. Apple are just another company that trying to make them self the biggest company in history. If apple really want to make world better they will not sue the s**t out of Samsung and other OEM, and imagine if the only smartphone in market is 600$ IPhone, can you? I can and its not a pretty world.
Apple in the end is just a "Company" just like Microsoft, Google or even Tesla, they are not there to make mankind better, they are there to make them self rich and sustainable. Mankind might benefit from them but to say/think like they are some kind of God/Saint is just sad.

I don't feel sorry for dumbass.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 05:28

48. AlikMalix (Posts: 5084; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Preach my brotha... open their eyes... /s

Dude do you hear yourself? People buy products because they empower their lives. We all know companies are out to make money - but with that creates competition - and byproduct of competition is innovation to the highest bidder. Capitalism at its finest.

In order to take your BS you wrote above seriously - we should stop buying anything...

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 07:36 1

57. marorun (Posts: 3163; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Nope we should just buy thing thats we really need and at the best possible price.

Right now ppl buy for brand first and if you say otherwise well go educate yourself.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 11:42

69. AlikMalix (Posts: 5084; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


No people buy what they like. And if you say otherwise, go educate yourself.

From now on, if you want to be included in conversations, please read the comment I'm replying to before pulling a text out of context of the conversation, and preaching the same bs I've read from you over and over and over.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 21:24 2

4. zeeBomb (Posts: 1786; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


Now that's...Watt's Up.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 21:24 7

5. Unordinary (Posts: 1181; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)


Well if it does, expect to see it in the S8. Lol

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 21:40 2

8. MrElectrifyer (limited) (Posts: 2192; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)


Only 4 days until we see what Samsung did about force touch...if anything.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 22:47 3

15. Unordinary (Posts: 1181; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)


Saves me a lot of time tbh. I hope they implement it because if you spend time using it (not a two week trial buy from the Apple Store or Bestbuy / a 20 minute visit picking up the phone lol) it's very intuitive. I plan on getting the S7 (unless it's a let down).

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 07:37

58. marorun (Posts: 3163; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Used the iphone 6S plus for nearly a month and half my boss forced me because i do tech support.

Not impressed at all with force touch i dont like it to be truthfull.

On the other hand i was impressed with video quality. Picture quality is not bad but below many others phone but video are the best i ever saw on mobile phone.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 23:37 1

20. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3262; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


god i hope not from all reviewers most dont even use and forgot about ft and synaptics is pushing for more manufacturers to use it only 1 last year,
and apples getting sued for stealing the 3d touch tech anyways again taking without paying

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 21:29 3

6. JMartin22 (Posts: 1901; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


How much electricity will this expend? Will charging be colossally long to where it's not worth using unless you're asleep or gone? Is this going to be healthy for the battery?

I'll continue being a reasonable skeptic of this charging category as a whole until these questions are answered.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 21:29 3

7. combatmedic870 (Posts: 555; Member since: 02 Sep 2015)


Well....in 5 years apple will release this. They dont even have quick charge yet...yes you can with an iPad charger. But it's not sold with the iPhone.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 21:47 4

9. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1111; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


One has to wonder whether this will have any negative impact on our health. I just can't see how this wouldn't at least have a very small percentage increase in getting cancer.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 23:40

21. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3262; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


everything gives you cancer is you know how much s**t you breath in buildings or homes and the magnetic lines of flux from large power lines you would live like a hermit

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 07:39

59. marorun (Posts: 3163; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


With all this already in place i agree with Phil not to add more to it.
Enuf is enuf :)

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 21:53 1

10. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8411; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


But the technology also have the same issues as wifi. The further you move away, the less effective the power source. If you want it to charge a reasonable speed, you would need to be within 1 metre.

If you are playing an HD game, would the power of the phone exceed what this device can charge at, which means in a HD graphical game, your phone won't be charging as was the case with the iPad. It sacked so much power, the charger didn't provide enough power to even charge it while you're playing games.

It's like having a gas pump that can travel 3 miles, but your car burned more gas than what the source puts out.

But if they can pull it off, that would be cool.

Wonder are they going to use this as an excuse for still having small batteries.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 22:10 6

11. AkoSiKuting (banned) (Posts: 88; Member since: 09 Dec 2015)


Haters gonna hate, but Apple will crush the world again period :)

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 22:51 5

16. submar (Posts: 363; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


The impact isnt that big, mr iamacat

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 23:19 6

18. DRS1977 (Posts: 420; Member since: 27 May 2015)


The world was here long before Apple and will be here long after they are gone. It will also still be here long after you are dead and buried 6-feet underground. They won't be crushing anything Apple cheerleader.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 23:41 1

22. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3262; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


think moron its not apples again they shake hands for licensing deal other companies are doing the same thing

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 04:47

40. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


People think focus means saying yes to the thing you've got to focus on. But that's not what it means at all. It means saying no to the hundred other good ideas that there are. You have to pick carefully. I'm actually as proud of the things we haven't done as the things I have done. Innovation is saying no to 1,000 things.”

You are making me RoTfLmFaO, Apple believing in technology. Really. They still don't have 720p screen, and so much other features missing. Apple fans are more haters to Android, because you all live in the past.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 04:49

41. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


As others have said, they do spend a reasonable amount of resources on R&D in specific areas, but they don't just go off to build some product completely outside their current focus areas (unless seen as a potential game changer), and they even drop relatively successful projects and products in return for being the best at what they do.

posted on 18 Feb 2016, 07:40

60. marorun (Posts: 3163; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Ako drank too much Apple coolaid.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 22:13 5

12. ameran (Posts: 245; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)


Many companies have been working on such technology. They never mass produced it because of health issues. These are very strong electro magnetic waves which could create headaches, high blood pressure, internal bleeding and etc. I am so happy that I am not an iSheep ending up in the emergency rooms because, I was too lazy to charge my phone with a cord.

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 23:43

23. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3262; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


or have a phone with a bigger battery

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