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Verizon and AT&T swap Apple iPhone ads aimed at each other's weak spots

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Verizon and AT&T swap Apple iPhone ads aimed at each other's weak spots
Verizon has not missed a beat in deciding to use a television commercial to show how much better the carrier says that the Apple iPhone works on its own network as compared to the problems that AT&T customers have experienced over the years. But this is not a one-sided battle.

While many new and current Apple iPhone users have been looking forward to drop-free calls using Verizon's CDMA pipelines, there is the matter of simultaneous voice and data. Unless hooked up to Wi-Fi, Verizon customers cannot have the pleasure of  making a call and accessing data at the same time. It is just one of those things about CDMA networks that makes them different from GSM.

So if you're AT&T and worried about losing some customers, why not highlight this difference in a commercial that shows the dire consequences of not being able to use voice and data together?

source: Redmond Pie (1), (2)



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posted on 05 Feb 2011, 11:28

1. damienh28 (Posts: 49; Member since: 23 Dec 2010)


I dont understand why they say its a CDMA limitation I have a Epic 4g(the best phone ever) and i surf the web while on the phone no problem... VZW iphone cant then it suck... VZW suck Sprint Ahead...
3D phone coming soon and infosyncworld.com said its going to be HTC.... Bang sprint wins again

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 11:56

7. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


lol, you have no understanding of technology then, so why comment? :)

you can do that on the epic 4G because its acessing the CDMA network for calls and the Wimax network for data. Somehow i dont think that will work in an area that you dont have wimax.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 15:49 4

40. BobbyTaba (Posts: 316; Member since: 11 Aug 2010)


I like how the guy in the att comercial cant book it 10 sec later and needs it now. U can do voice and WiFi at same time on verizon tho

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 19:03 5

54. KParks23 (Posts: 639; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)


that was dumb!! i have never in my whole life been like damn if only i could talk and surf at the same time..... yea i guess i could use it but is it really that big of a deal???

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 11:29 1

2. janesmith (unregistered)


i dont know if any of u have seen but in other posts i have read at&t claims its the ONLY network that can use voice and data at the same time.. that is soo not true i have been doing that on my evo since i first got it . when i have a 4g signal i can make a call put it on speaker and go on facebook or yahoo or any other website at the same time without using wifi also my friend on t-mobile can use voice and data at the same time on her mytouch 4G . like for example last time she was showing me some new pictures she uploaded on her facebook and then a call came in she answered it and put in on speaker and was still browising the internet at the same time on her mytouch 4G without using wifi so why would at&t say its the only network it can do that? when other networks can do it?

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 12:15

10. JustPlainDave (Posts: 45; Member since: 03 Feb 2011)


I'm sure they have some phrasing or fine print in the commercial that "explains" it. I generally don't believe anything the large carriers have to say. I've worked for the 3 largest and been a customer of a couple others so I know they all talk out of both sides of their mouth at some time or another.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 17:13

46. Pings (Posts: 303; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


"its the ONLY network that can use voice and data at the same time"

And that's why ATT has bandwidth problems.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 11:35 1

3. dmberta (Posts: 25; Member since: 30 Dec 2009)


The problem is that while Sprint and TMO have done an AWESOME job of getting high end Android devices, they're networks are tiny and their 3g/4g is non-existent for many areas outside of massive populations centers.

I wish AT&T and Verizon weren't coasting on their networks so much but the Droid series and the Atrix are all signs of improvement.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 11:36 2

4. dmberta (Posts: 25; Member since: 30 Dec 2009)


their not they're

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 11:41 5

5. DaveyJE24 (Posts: 54; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)


verizons htc thunderbolt will be able to also. att is losing the only thing it had on every other carrier. maybe they should just worry about their cell phone signal instead being on phone and using internet.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 14:40 2

30. TheMan (unregistered)


Just to clarify, on the HTC Thunderbolt you will be able to over 3g also. I don't know what they changed, but you can use voice / data over 3g, 4g, or wifi with the new phone.

posted on 07 Feb 2011, 04:33

68. dude (unregistered)


umm...sprint has a larger footprint than ATT.

posted on 07 Feb 2011, 04:34

69. dude (unregistered)


grr...wrong reply.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 11:45 3

6. JustPlainDave (Posts: 45; Member since: 03 Feb 2011)


Mudslinging, a great American past-time. Lol

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 12:00 12

8. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


2 lies on the ATT commercial

1- unlikely hes got inbuilding reception
2- he grabed the iphone4 by its left side without a silicone on it. it would have dropped the call.

how important is that talk n web feature if the phone cant recieve the call in the first place??? lol.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 12:10 3

9. DaveyJE24 (Posts: 54; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)


dude thats awesome. couldnt have said it any better.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 12:49 6

11. TKFox007 (Posts: 303; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


AT&T: "Our iPhone can do simultaneous voice and data, your iPhone on your network can't do that."
Verizon: "No we can't, but you know what we can do?"
AT&T: "Oh? What's that?"
Verizon: "We can use our iPhone as a phone."
AT&T: ".......... FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU...!!!!!!"

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 13:03

12. trollRtheWorst (unregistered)


how is it tht i have att nd deal wit none of the problems u guys speak of my sis has the iP4 nd she lives deep in bmore nd always has 3-5 bars my other sis lives in va also wit an iP4 nd 5 bars i live in nyc myself nd have a bb bold nd i get nothing but 5 bars i dont think ive ever had a dropd call oh yea nd i get service in places where vzw cant even get 1X so wats that mean??

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 14:11 4

24. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)


use proper grammar and maybe someone will respond to you intelligently.

posted on 07 Feb 2011, 04:36

70. Treehugger (unregistered)


English please.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 13:20 5

13. gajetski (unregistered)


Another thing att forgets to mention is that you can only talk and surf at the same time while on 3g. Hell they even claim to have the fastest mobile network when theyre the only ones without 4g?

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 13:25

14. dmberta (Posts: 25; Member since: 30 Dec 2009)


TMO's 4g is just a re-branding of the same tech AT&T has been using as 3G now for a while. Also not all 3g/4g in this case is created equal. HSPA+(the technology in question) is not made to one speed and different devices support different speed levels. Anyway AT&T and TMO have the exact same network tech out right now.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 13:40 2

15. jtucker1987 (Posts: 89; Member since: 06 May 2010)


There's nothing really wrong with AT&T. They do have an extremely fast network. The only times I've had problems with dropped calls were in the past week because of the snow storms up here in the northeast. AT&T and Verizon both suffered from the storms. They are adding capacity throughout their network and the problems that once were are quickly disappearing. If you go on their website it will show they are expanding their mobile broadband to a large portion of the Midwest. And with the claim of 4G....no one really has a 4G network. Before the international community changed the definition, LTE and WiMax were not 4G networks. LTE Advanced and WiMax2 were the 4G networks. It seems most GSM carriers are relying more on HSPA+ first before the move to LTE because HSPA+ will be faster than the initial launches of LTE.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 17:09

45. g-reg (unregistered)


At&t can have the faster network(its faster because less people use it!), they can talk and surf at the same time casue lord knows how big of an importance that is... Hell they can even have better phones. Just give me a droid on the vzw network(the on they spend tons more $$ on than other networks) and I can do all I've ever wanted and more. Yay iphone, cant pull battery, pay out the *** for insurance, blah blah blah. Its people that cant think for themselvs that makes the iphone so popular. The less ignorant you are, the more youll see verizon is worth it.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 13:47 1

16. VZW Man (unregistered)


First of all, the iPhone 4 on AT&T has the dreaded antenna problem. Second, on AT&T's network the only way iPhone 4 can do VOICE and DATA TOGETHER is with Face Time - which only works to other iPhone 4 users. Outside of that, you do have to be on a WiFi signal to do VOICE and DATA together on AT&T. The SAME goes for the Verizon Wireless iPhone 4. Verizon Wireless ANDROID Devices can, and regularly DO VOICE and DATA simultaneously.

The HTC Thunderbolt (release date: Feb. 14, 2011) and all the new LTE phones Verizon will offer this coming year not only do voice and data together, they can do a version of Face Time to any other smart phone. But I think Apple and AT&T conviniently forgot about that in their commercials.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 13:55 2

18. jtucker1987 (Posts: 89; Member since: 06 May 2010)


Wow that is so wrong. On the AT&T 3G network you can do voice and data at the same time no matter what not just with FaceTime. While on the phone you can surf the web, watch YouTube, watch Netflix, or even watch a dirty movie all over AT&T's 3G network. Plus FaceTime only works over wifi currently for both verizon and AT&T. Verizon's current 3G network cant do this unless you are on wifi. Don't bash something until you get your facts straight.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 15:58 1

41. fishpower187 (Posts: 88; Member since: 22 Feb 2010)


Dude, you are a discredit to your monicker. Any Verizon employee worth his nametag knows that what you said is BS. FaceTime works with 1). Other iPhone 4s; 2). Any 4th Generation iPod touch; and 3). any Mac. Also, FaceTime DOES require WiFi in order to operate; it is other data svcs, such as web browsing, 3d party apps, etc that can be operated simultaneously with voice. It is unfortunate that you make such erronious statements while representing yourself as a Verizon employee/customer/supporter.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 13:50

17. obamabinladin (Posts: 13; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


honestly who actually makes calls in our days? everyone texts , the only time i call somebody is when i drive because i dont text and drive. i have at&t and personally nothing is wrong with them. some people are just babies.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 13:57

20. jtucker1987 (Posts: 89; Member since: 06 May 2010)


Yea you have a point. I use thousands of texts a month but don't go over 150 minutes in a month.

posted on 05 Feb 2011, 14:32 1

25. JustPlainDave (Posts: 45; Member since: 03 Feb 2011)


If I had to venture a guess, I'd say it's the older generations (respectfully) and business men and women. Although, business is quickly trending towards text/im/email which they can easily do on the go.

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