Sprint reportedly setting up equipment to boost its signal inside an Apple Store, hints at 4G
According to the report, the equipment being installed is said to be both CDMA and 4G for Sprint. The nation's third largest carrier uses WiMax for 4G service and Apple in the past has hired engineers familiar with that service, although there has been no word-official or unofficial-that would suggest that the Apple iPhone 5 would support 4G either through Verizon's LTE or AT&T's HSPA+ pipeline. As of now, Sprint has not officially announced that it would carry the next-gen iPhone, expected to be introduced this month and launched in the U.S. early next month.
in case Apple customers want to test out a Sprint branded Apple iPhone 5. As we reported, Bloomberg recently published a story confirming that Sprint has already signed a deal with Apple and will indeed get to add the iconic touchscreen phone to its lineup when the next-gen version launches. Sprint has also recently asked its reps not to talk about the coming addition of the iPhone 5 to its lineup. Additionally, we told you that as of September 9th, Sprint's ETF on advanced devices rises from $200 to $350. Some have considered this to be a sign that the Apple iPhone is coming to the carrier.
We also informed you that on October 7th, Sprint is to hold a "Strategy Update" which might not only discuss its 4G plans, but might also be an official announcement about a Sprint branded variant of Apple's touchscreen handset. If Sprint does get the device, it hopes to stop the bleeding that has been occurring as the carrier had a net loss of 101,000 customers last quarter. One analyst sees Sprint selling 1.2 million units of the Apple iPhone 5 in Q4 alone. If somehow Sprint ends up as the only carrier to offer a 4G model of the phone, those numbers might seem too conservative.
source: Beatweek via AppleInsider
1. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
hhaha oh apple.. feeling generous enough to save sprint from a verizon acquisition... how nice
5. HockeyDood (Posts: 69; Member since: 14 May 2010)
What are you smoking? Why do you think Verizon would be trying, or even able, to acquire Sprint? Because they are both CDMA? Come on. Please be somewhat informed before you speak.
9. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
vzw has had the opportunity for a long time. in a vzw higher ups own words "why would vzw buy sprint with all its bad debt and heavy weights of multiple networks, when we can just wait to see if they fail... then pick up the pieces we want on the auction block for pennies"
wiser words have not been spoken. :)
11. firebo14 (Posts: 77; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
verizon is faster than sprint.. actual test supports
23. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yea, when you compare LTE to Wimaxx, no doubt. their 3g is the same.
what is your point exactly?
41. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
Verizon would certainely be able to.. And its the same reason att wud buy T-Mobile. Gain the people, improve service, and knock a competitor out
15. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Must be some good pot you're smoking there.
37. stealthd (Posts: 989; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)
A buyout of Sprint by VZW would get blocked faster than AT&T/T-Mobile
3. wumberpeb (Posts: 449; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
I've told people a thousand times...if the iPhone 5 doesn't have WiMax, there's absolutely no reason for anyone to chose it over a 4G Android phone. Its been 15 months since the Evo 4G came out, i'm pretty sure they can figure out how to get it in an iPhone
This, if true, changes the 4G game a bit
6. dj (unregistered)
the 1+year old iphone 4 sold over 20 million units last quarter. what is your point? quit crying. wimax is a joke. sprint will tell you the same thing.
8. dv (unregistered)
I hope that people do the research and do not ever take the bait on WiMax. WiMax, simply put is terrible. High frequency, horrible building penetration, you need line of site, upload speeds that rival 3G. There is a fundamental reason that Sprint has verbally committed itself to LTE, somehow. I still can't imagine how they finance that. 820million lost last quarter along with 101,000 subscribers with the overwhelming majority of their gains in cusotmer subscribition coming from their NVNO, Boost, Virgin, ect. I hope they can buy U.S. Cellular and be competative but they have a long way to go. Don't count them out, they are the modern day AT&T back in 2006!
The iPhone will not have 4G support, the same way the original did not have 3G when it was available. Apple knows that until VOLTE the advantages of 4G are minimal on a handset with the network technology in its infancy it just won't happen. A 3G iPhone 5 will be by far better than any 4G Android that what ever manufacturer can pull out of their A$$!
12. wumberpeb (Posts: 449; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
Hey moron, should I tell my sprint customers looking to buy an iPhone 5 this fall to hope and pray for one that is left to suffer on probably the slowest 3G network of the major carriers? Should I be telling them to plot out the nearest wifi hotspots just to be able to stream YouTube videos, since downlink speeds have a hard time cracking half a megabit at 4am on a Tuesday morning? Or should I tell them that random unregistered guy from phone arena says they should avoid Wimax because he says so
Way to think out through dumb ass. I'm pretty sure LTE blows it away, but Wimax is better than nothing
13. dj (unregistered)
lol. you sure are angry. simmer down tough guy. its only a cell phone. you can tell your customers that turning on wimax means you can watch your battery drain for slightly faster data speeds (at least thats the case on my evo).
with or without 4g, the iphone will set sales records never seen before on a third or last place carrier like sprint. im not saying its the best phone. you couldnt convince "your customers" one way or the other. watch your precious super duper epic touch 4g 4.5 inch screen variant get smashed in sales figures.
21. jhgkiu (Posts: 21; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)
i have a evo 3d and easily get any were from 5 to 9mb download speed and 3 to 4mb upload speed compare it to 3g were you get .5mb to .3mb download speed and upload well you could say it doesn't exist so ya 4g is a big difference when buying a phone on sprint. Also i compared my 3d to a friends thunderbolt both using 4G and literally his was two to three seconds faster not that much of a big deal the only thing lte is good for is its ability to penetrate buildings and that's about it speed wise not that much better than wimax
22. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
"should I tell my sprint customers"
You work for sprint ?
26. trollCall (unregistered)
WiMax is also only available in a few markets. In those markets, it sucks unless you're standing in a compatible tower's crosshairs. If not, good luck with consistency. I was in Chicago this summer with my EVO 3D AFTER the 4G software boosting upgrade and still had trouble retaining a signal standing dead center of Sprint's 4G coverage according to its 4G coverage map in Chicago. No matter how you pontificate for WiMax, it's not enough to sell an iPhone. Don't lie to your customers. If it works well wherever you are, good for you, but give them the full breakdown of what using WiMax means, spectrum-wise but also in terms of high frequency and indoor propagation. In short, it sucks. Apply RF principles to your argument and you may find you don't have a good one and gradually fade out of the discussion.
36. wumberpeb (Posts: 449; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
The point that everyone is missing is...
Wimax is BETTER than nothing!
Good lord, you would think every customer of Sprint would be salivating at the notion that their city is next in line to see 4G get fired up
There's no denying that the iPhone on Sprint will sell, 3G or 4G, but those used to data speeds with Verizon and AT&T's iPhone will find a compelling reason to choose their iPhone over Sprint's. I don't care how much you idiots complain about "Wimax sux where I live lol!" I'm happy Albany, NY has coverage where I live and work. I'm sure the second I see Droid Charge throw down a couple of 15Mbit speed tests I'll be hoping for more, but its miles better than what every Sprint customer has had for the last 4years
...and yes, I work for Sprint...and no, I don't tell customers that Wimax is the best option out there. For the price, they don't complain either
16. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
No one cares about 4G, 4G is just a marketing ploy to get Andrones into buying the latest Android phone because let's face it - Android fans are the most gullible bunch in the smartphone world.
24. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
right after iDiots who buy the same phone every year and call it top of the line!
30. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
More like Andrones buying another rehashed Android phone with monster specs and crappy software.
34. Commentator (Posts: 2577; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
"No one cares about 4G" is one of the most ignorant statements I've ever seen on this site. If people want faster download speeds, they would naturally want 4G over 3G. Some people out there want faster download speeds. See where I'm going with this? As an aside, I personally don't care about 3G or 4G. I have an EVO but I never use 4G because I'm not constantly downloading things. However, to say that no one cares about something when there's a clear demand in the market for it is just stupid...
39. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Then you must not have seen anything Sniggles has wrote.
7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5975; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Um.... Maybe the routers that Sprint is installing (if that is in fact what is occurring) come with LTE or WiMax radios out-of-the-box? But a router with a LTE/WiMax radio does not make an iPhone 5 with an LTE/WiMax radio. If Apple releases an iPhone 5 with an LTE/WiMax radio this October, it will have snuck under the radar of every Apple rumor site on the web.
10. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
1) just because they are installing wimax/3g repeaters doesnt mean the iphone is wimaxx. they do have actual wimax customers already and improving their signal is important too.
2) on the off chance the sprint iphone has wimax and there is no LTE version... imma fall over laughing.
17. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
1. Turn your f*cking caps off
2. Buy a grammar book.
35. Commentator (Posts: 2577; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
So what if it sells well? So what if they market it brilliantly? That's the point of running a successful business. If there's one thing Android is horrible at it's marketing. A lot of people out there still don't know the difference between a DROID and any other Android phone. Competition isn't just about who has better specs, software, etc. It's also about who has best name-recognition, consumer-relations, and so on. All power to Apple to sell as many iPhones as they can. That's what a free-market's all about. (I'm only addressing the first line of your comment because that's about all I could take. For all I know, you could have written brilliantly after that line, but I'll never know because the whole thing looks terrible from the start. Seriously, learn how to write.)
19. Goldeneye (Posts: 362; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
So Sprint customers will lose signal once they get outta the mall with their new and shiny iPhone, Sprint will need to install repeaters everywhere, lol
20. snowgator (Posts: 3335; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
"..the carrier had a net loss of 101,000 customers last quarter."
Wasn't the vast, VAST majority of those customers that Sprint lost mostly iDen subscribers bailing on the network that Sprint is shutting down by the end of next year anyways? I am testing my memory, but I do believe I have seen several reports to that. If that is correct- that is addition by subtraction. Sprint has been losing money on the Nextal system since they purchased it. That is why they were never in serious talks to grab T-Mobile. They had learned their lesson.
That aside, the iPhone only helps Sprint. They have got great Android selections, what Blackberry offers (I actually was fairly impressed with the Bold. Not enough to buy it of course, but impressed) and 1 mediocre W7 device. Having the iPhone puts Sprint on a level with the big two, and perception is reality in mobile. More power to 'em.
25. ha,ha, (unregistered)
you apple fool's!!! all you do is follow each other and are to scared to try new stuff!!! last yers android will have the same spec's as the i 5 blah ,blah bunch of wimp's
27. trollCall (unregistered)
So they're installing AIRAVEs to virtualize the expected performance sans femtocell? Good idea. Wait til Sprint customers leave the damn store and realize Sprint's data is like EDGE for AT&T when the first iPhone was released. AT&T better be honest and post disclaimers by Sprint-enabled iPhone's that the signal received is the result of a local signal booster feeding off a broadband internet connection and not the ACTUAL Sprint network towers, which are still feeding off of T1.
28. trollCall (unregistered)
*Apple better be honest and post disclaimers ...
38. stealthd (Posts: 989; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)
Sprint's 3G is actually about 10x faster than EDGE. And WiMax repeaters are not airaves.