"Serious and pressing noncompliances" found in Foxconn factories, Apple promises change
2. Sniggly (Posts: 6804; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I personally would like to know whether those health and safety issues extend to the plants making hardware for companies other than Apple. Furthermore, and more importantly, I'd like to know just what the hell they ARE.
4. Victor.H (Posts: 410; Member since: 27 May 2011)
You should check out the full report below for all the details, but in a nutshell the biggest problem seems to be overtime.
Health hazards however are still there. They are vaguely described as aluminum dust, noise, bad thermal conditions and vibration. Now what's bad is that some young workers aged 16 or 17 (16 is the legal age to work in China) are working in such conditions.
And yes, Foxconn supplies Sony, Motorola and others, so this definitely applies to other companies as well. The highlight is on Apple because they are the biggest and its overseas workers are related to suicide scandals, etc.
6. Sniggly (Posts: 6804; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Separate plants make separate products, and conditions can vary widely from plant to plant. There is more demand for products from Apple so those workers might be driven harder than at other plants.
My own mother worked in a small factory chain for a while; one plant was well lit with more modern machinery, the other was poorly lit with more manual equipment and not as favorable working conditions overall.
11. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
correct, each plant is run differently depending on the client and the contract. the contract dictates the worker's compensation, and the client has a say in how the factory is run (and in apple's case, built). Which, again, is why the Xbox factory across the street from the ipod factory pays the workers well more than in the ipod factory and doesnt have the suicide problem.
It all sucks, some just suck more than others. Apple gets picked on not just because its their biggest client, but also because its among the lowest paid, highest suicided, and constant problems like factories blowing up.
15. roscuthiii (Posts: 1786; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Exactly. I have seen the same thing at the company where I work... right here in the states.
Pay scale, OT policy, etc are all different for us even though we work for the same company in the same occupation. Some facilities are unionized, some are not so even benefits can vary.
It all hinges on what the terms, conditions, & obligations outlined at each facility are.
3. andro. (Posts: 1936; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Thing is Apple knew this your years and was happy to let the suicide count keep rising as long as they got their phones and they could keep gouging money from ifans. Only now it Will change because they have been caught out. Didnt a PA writer post a pro apple article here recently trying to claim all was good and rosy at after a 'random' foxconn visit said workers were all happy?!
5. Victor.H (Posts: 410; Member since: 27 May 2011)
Andro, we report different points of view and since we haven't been at Foxconn factories, we can't have all the facts. I believe you are speaking about this here post:
It's actually based on the very same Fair Labor Association and words of its very same president quoted here. And yes, Apple is comparatively not much worse than other companies in treating overseas workers. Comparatively however is not good enough in this case.
7. andro. (Posts: 1936; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Agreed,comparatively is certainly not enough when it comes to alarming suicides rates,especially considering the unprecedented billions apple are making off it. Its about time for change now
8. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5474; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"Thing is Apple knew this your years and was happy to let the suicide count keep rising as long as they got their phones and they could keep gouging money from ifans. Only now it Will change because they have been caught out."
9. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5474; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Repairing the New iPad sucks and it is part of Apple politics too. Also build quality doesn't look so good it is more cheaper than solid...
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10. prometheus1983 (Posts: 5; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
What is most disgusting to me is that apple is the most profitable company in the world. the mark up on their products is insane. Humanity first, shareholders second. i guess apple disagrees.
12. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
there is no problem with making mad money. When it comes off the back of human rights violations and indentured slavery, then there is an issue with it.
14. bayusuputra (Posts: 941; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
i don't mind paying more for these workers.. but i disagree to pay more for the greedy executives..
16. Mandroid (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
LMAO atapple and the hiPster sheep that think they're such a great company.
Apple promises change, huh? If by 'change' they mean the workers complaining will be drug out to the lobby kicking and screaming and shot in the head to set an example, then I believe they will change. Sounds like apple, and that's how they roll in China, no wonder apples headquarters is there.
17. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 843; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)
Didn't someone do a televised report on this but was threatened to be sued by Foxconn so he said it was all made up and pulled his report. Now this seems to somewhat corroborate what he was saying yes or no.
18. cripton805 (Posts: 913; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Did anyone bother to see that they said the prices might rise for their products. Instead of very lightly cuttings into theirs profits? It would be insignificant. What these workers make in a month is half of one ipad costs and a third of an iPhone. This must make you iFans proud. I bet there are some animal activists with Apple products! Oh the irony of putting animals before humans...