Samsung mentions three new bada handsets, Wave 3 among them
2. Yeeee (Posts: 190; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
Bada looks like a samsung feature phone with a few extra features
3. android_hitman (unregistered)
or with less features...
4. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Im buying the Wave 3 first day it comes out. Already have Wave and Wave 2.
Samsung bada is a great OS.
To you guys who have commented above, i think you should try bada before saying anything.
bada OS is a fantastic OS and with bada 2.0.1 it will leave Android and IOS in the dust !
5. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I don't say that bada is bad OS, but I don't think that it will leave Android and iOS in the dust.
6. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
. I personally think the point of BADA is to have a well working OS back up incase all this lawsuit crap between apple and the world takes a nosedive for the android team. If that happens, Samsung has their own homebrew OS ready to take on iOS. which will put them in a strong position to leverage BADA against iOS and WP7. It will be more mature than anything the other guys put out that arent doing it.
7. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
My opinion is that i think that Samsung will gradually exchange Android with bada over the next few years, so that bada will be on almost all of Samsungs new phones instead of Android.
Or atleast do 50 / 50 android / bada.
Ive read that Samsung in France plan to sell 50 % android and the rest 50 % bada and WP7 (ahem, bada outsells WP7).
8. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4833; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
That is wishful thinking, Bada first has to prove they can sell in the U.S. on a consistent level before they will ever drop Android. Second, Bada has to launch on phones on the caliber of the Samsung Galaxy S II. The phones Bada launches with are not real powerful phones at all. Bada also is not a smart phone OS yet. It's a glorified feature phone OS who is trying to get to a smart phone OS level. So Bada has a VERY long way to go before it's considered a smart phone OS. Even then it will still be light years behind Windows Phone 7 once the Mango update hits, & to add insult to injury when Android Ice Cream Sandwich comes out. Bada HAS to be a more complete OS before the numbers you listed on post #7 even become a reality. You MAY be right but as of right now that comment is just too premature. Bada has to overhaul its OS DRAMATICLY so your numbers could become a reality in the next few years as you say! I have seen Bada on the web, & it’s lacking in a lot of aspects.
10. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Well youre wrong in a lot of your arguments here.
I agree that samsung need to come with more high end phones with bada. The first phone with bada, the samsung wave s8500 had one of the best specs of any phone when it came out. In fact it had very similar specs to the Samsung Galaxy S expect the screen was a little smaller. And by the way It is rumored that the upcoming Wave 3 will have the same specs as the galaxy s2.
Now your argument that bada is not a smartphone is ridicoulus.
The thing that makes an OS a smartphone OS, is the ability to install apps. That is the official thing a OS has to do, to be able to call itself a smarpthone OS.
You can easily install apps on your bada phone, you also install java apps.
bada already has the same kind of multitasking as WP7 has, where it multitasks with the pre installed apps like calandar, phone, sms, etc but you can only have one 3rd party app running in the background. However with the upcoming bada 2.0.1 bada will get real multitaksing. Also bada will get voice recognition, better web browser, + many more updates.
bada is a real smartphone OS, if you think otherwise you have not tried bada !
bada is already waaaay better than WP7 (thats why i switched from my omnia 7 to bada).
Here are some examples.
You can personalise bada way more than WP7, and also you have for example file manager, you can use thetering (using the phones internet to connect your computer to the internet), you can use micro SD memory card, you can use the phone as mass storage on the computer...
There is alot of things that bada can to that WP7 cant. In fact, the only thing i know of that bada cant do at the moment, that WP7 can is voice recognition, but that is coming with the bada 2.0.1 update.
Oh and in france bada already has a 20.3 % market share. IOS has 20.8 % market share in france. Andoid is at the number 1 spot in france, which makes bada the number 3 biggest OS in france.
12. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4833; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Peter I love your enthusiasm BUT Bada IS a work in progress. You may be right Bada MAY do more than Windows Phone 7 right at this moment, BUT when the Mango update comes for WP7 there will be 500 new features. Bada just can't compete with that. Also you speak of France, France is just one country in our Earth, Bada will NEVER make it just with France. Plus Bada from what I see looks like TouchWiz on Android. Why did you go for Bada when you could be on Android 2.3 Gingerbread with TouchWiz? Bada & Touchwiz on Android look too similar, the only difference is Android can do SO much more & is about 100 times less buggy than Bada. Also I am not talking about specs like the Samsung Galaxy S II, I am talking about the Bada OS to come out on an OFFICIAL Galaxy S II. Every Bada phone is at most a mid to low-range phone specs wise. Bada is buggy & at best like I said before is still a work in progress. They are YEARS behind Android, Apple, & Windows once the Mango update drops. Even Web OS is more of a compelling option compared to Bada. Just because you can download an app, doesn't mean it's a smartphone. The iPod Touch can download apps & it's not a smartphone. The same can be said for a tablet. Tablets are NOT smartphones. For Bada to compete with the big boys it needs more time to cook, plus Bada worldwide has a less than 3% hold on the market. So there is a lot of work to be done!
13. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Even with the mango update i cant see where WP7 has more fetures, especially whne bada 2.0.1 comes out.
Why i choose bada before Android ?
Well ive tried different Androids ive even had HTC Desire & Legend. Ive also tried all the latest Androids in the shops. And ALL of them have been more laggy than my bada phones (s8500 and s8530). Theres even been more bugs in them than on my bada. When ive tried Android theres sometimes been a message about force close...
That has never happened to me on bada (only if ive been multitasking with lots and heavy apps, have i been asked to close some apps because the phone has been out of memory, my bada phones only have 256 MB RAM).
In fact, ive never encountered any serious bugs at all with bada. But with WP7 for example ive had the omnia 7 restart several times for nothing.
Its true that tablets and the iPod touch arent smartphones. But the bada phones arent that. The more expensive bada phones (s8500 and s8530) can do anything that WP7 and IOS can do (and even more). And bada definitely deserves to be called a smartphone.
And bada worldwide is number 5 in terms of marketshare.
In terms of marketshare it looks like this.
14. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4833; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Here is the most current link (04-07-11) I can find about the market share of ALL smart phone OS's:
Bada & Web OS are grouped together as other OS’s & the most they are projected is at 3.3% COMBINED by 2015. I would like to see where you got your list because I just don't see it. WP7 is scheduled to have a 19.5% market share by 2015. Peter I want to be able to believe you, I just can't find anything in the web to support your findings. Bada DOES have potential though! From what I have studied I DO prefer it over iOS ANY DAY! The more I play with Windows Phone 7 the more I like it, plus it’s making me VERY curious about the Mango update. Every time I read about the Mango update I get more & more engrossed. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE Android & I love my HTC Evo 3D! I love the little green robot. I have used top of the line Androids from HTC & Samsung, & I have never had buggy or laggy experiences with those phones. I am VERY satisfied with the worlds #1 mobile OS.
15. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
That is just an analysis made by a company. That is not real fact selling numbers.
And nope WP7, there is no way it is going to have 19.5 % market share in 2015. The problem with WP7 is the UI which is boring. Most consumers do not want a borgin UI. They want a exiting UI like IOS, bada, MeeGo, and WebOS. Android is nice to, but i personally find the stock android ugly. However with HTC sense ant touchwiz it becomes more appealing.
And for real facts bada market share phonearen today came with an article about it.
It reads "In France, Bada is making an even more impressive run pushing up to 9.6% of sales. "
So ok, it is not as much as 20 percent, but i do remember reading that bada had 20 market share back in Mars / April.
Link to the phonearena article herehttp://www.phonearena.com/news
I dont know about you with Adroid, but when i have tried Android it has been very laggy. Maybe it is because i am used to bada, wich never lags : )
17. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4833; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Peter, "Gartner, Inc. (NYSE: IT) is the world's leading information technology research and advisory company. Gartner delivers the technology-related insight necessary for its clients to make the right decisions, every day." This isn't an analysis made by some "company" this is a VERY respected institution. The numbers they predict are more justified the what you read some time in "Mars/April". The numbers I gave you in that link are completely realistic numbers & the article you provided from PhoneArena.com reinforces what I posted. There is NO WAY Bada has 20.3% hold in France, it's more like 9.6% which is nothing. Also they have nothing in the rest of the world. What the link I posted clearly said they have less than 3% of the market WORLD WIDE. As I told you before Bada has a VERY long way to go before it makes even a dent on the worldwide market share.
18. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I know gartner is a big compony, but that does not mean they are correct.
Im not sure about the exact numbers in % worldwide market share bada has, but i know that it has more than Winmo and WP7 together.
If you want i can give you a link to the source (Tomi Ahonen communities dominate blog). He is a former employee of Nokia and a analyst.
Bada has more market share than WP7 an winmo and will have more in the future as well.
My prediction is that in 2015 bada will be number 3 after Android and IOS.
19. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Comment #4 by PeterIfromsweden:
"...bada OS is a fantastic OS and with bada 2.0.1 it will leave Android and IOS in the dust !"
Comment #18 by PeterIfromsweden:
"My prediction is that in 2015 bada will be number 3 after Android and IOS."
I don't want to argue with you because we all have opinion, but seems that you have a conflict between your own statements.
24. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
What i meant was that in terms of functions and UI that bada will leave Android and IOS in the the dust with the upcming bada 2.0.1 update.
I didnt talk about market share.
20. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4833; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
We all have our opinions, but you keep posting stuff that says France has 20.3% when the new results say otherwise. Your numbers & predictions sound more emotionally based then factual based. The trend is that Bada is at about less than 3% worldwide & WP7 is picking up steam at a faster rate than Bada. Hey we all have our opinions though! I am not trying to bash Bada. It looks ok, but your comments are VERY premature. I tend to believe a well established unbiased company like Gartner as opposed to Peterlfromsweden's obviously biased assumptions of Bada.
21. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Here is a comment from canalys.
"‘Samsung also shipped nearly 3.5 million bada operating system-based smart phones, outperforming total shipments of Windows Phone devices by more than a million units."
Link to the article
Bada outsold Windows phone as you can see.
I will find the article that says about 20.3 % market share, wait a few hours and i should have it for you (ill be going out now and will be back in a few hours)
22. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I managed to find the article before i went out : )
Here: "Samsung’s Bada Os powered phones might not have performed very good in 2010 in race of smartphones with Android and iOS, but the sales numbers are very good according to Samsung. With over 8.8 million phones and 2.1 million smartphones, Samsung France is quite happy with total making of 10.9 million units. Samsung Wave 8500 was highest in sales number with 1.2 million sales in france. Android is ruling with 31.3% market share, but Bada OS is not quite behind. It has reached upto 3rd place with 20.1% market share, after 20.5% of Apple’s iOS"
23. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4833; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
These 2 links you have posted contradict what was posted in PhoneArena.com & at Gartner. Something is very wrong with those numbers. The disparity is just too great. 20.1% & 9.6% is day & night. Something is not right. PhoneArena's numbers resemble what Gartner’s has projected in April '11. The article from Canalys has last year’s numbers not the current numbers & projections from Gartner & PhoneArena.com. The other article I tent to not believe because it's from a Samsung Bada website. Of course they are going to inflate some numbers because they want to sell their OS. It’s their own propaganda!
25. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
The article from the bada website is not samsungs own website. It is a dedicated site for bada news. And those numbers where not something they just made up. It was Samsung France that gave those numbers, so this actually comes from Samsung themselves.
When you think of that bada is so new OS, even 9.6 % market share in France is quite impressing, especially since Samsung only has released 2 high end phones with bada (s8500 and s8530). If / when samsung comes with more high end phones with really good specifications, bada will sell even better.
26. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4833; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Ok I give you that! Bada again has potential. Ohh & I saw the videos of Bada 2.0.1 beta. Bada looks very promising. I can admit that! Let’s see how it all plays out! I will keep my eye on Bada.
27. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I agree that bada 2.0.1 looks very promising and that it can be one of the bigger OSes : )
I thumbed you up : )
16. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
And one more thing. I recomend you search on google or youtube for bada 2.0.1 and watch some videos of it. I think you will like what you see. At least i cant wait for bada 2.0.1 : )
9. Goldeneye (Posts: 419; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
And besides Samsung who's supporting this OS? I don't think any other manufacturer will, not even the Chinese, we have too many platforms already, at least in the US I don't believe we are open to try another OS, we'd go to WEBos, symbian or even blackberry before give bada a chance IMO
11. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I think Samsung wants to keep bada for themselves.
I agree that WebOS is good as well, but bada is better. Symbian is good but a little dated now (Symbian Bella looks nice though).
And for BB, bada is miles ahead BB !
29. rtyecript (unregistered)
I really liked the article, and the very cool blog