Nokia seeks changes in the executive suite
Chief Development Office Kai Oistamo and Tero Ojanpera, the manager responsible for services and mobile solutions, could also be on the way out according to Wirtschaftswoche. The magazine says it has sources inside the company who report that Nokia's CEO Stephen Elop-who just started in his job in September-will announce organizational changes on February 11th.
While Nokia remains the biggest cellphone maker in the world, the company has been losing market share. The company's failure to compete in the sizzling hot U.S. smartphone business is another problem that needs to be addressed. As we reported, the Nokia X7 which had been expected to join AT&T's subsidized line-up in what could have been a major breakthrough for the Symbian^3 flavored smartphone, ended up being launched as an unlocked model in selected markets. The WSJ reported that it was a decision by Nokia, based on the manufacturer's fears that the carrier would not support the X7, that kept the handset from being branded with the AT&T logo.
Nokia's most competitive smartphone model, the N8, offered an iPhone-sized 3.5 inch capacitive display, a 12MP camera with Xenon flash, HDMI out and up to 32GB of expandable memory with a microSD slot. But despite gaining strong support outside of the States, the first Symbian^3 powered device had not been able to find a major U.S. carrier willing to subsidize the unit.
1. JustPlainDave (Posts: 45; Member since: 03 Feb 2011)
Not sure why manufacturers like HP, Palm, and Nokia can't just... compete. They are still the largest cellphone maker, but in order to stay on top you have to be competetive. For instance, if you know the specs of a different phone far surpass yours, why wouldn't you as the manufacturer strive to at least match or beat their specs. The N8 was impressive with a great camera and HDMI out, but insisted on using an OS that is losing momentum fast. Can't they go with an Android OS? Or even WP7? Nokia hasn't really done anything other than the N8 to make news and turn heads lately.
6. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 861; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)
Again with Android and WP7. This "if you can't beat them, join them" mentality needs to stop. WP7 is garbage. Any of you out there actually use it? Symbian's functionality far exceeds it. You fail to realize that Symbian needs a slight UI improvement and a few applications that need work. That's it. Yet too many people keep claiming that Nokia needs to jump ship and join with Android. You're all probably jealous that you can't get the amazing designs, hardware, and camera's that come out of the Nokia camp. I would be too if I were an Android fan looking at everything I see now. It's all the same.
14. Nothatins60but... (unregistered)
I love Symbian and Nokia products too, but Nokia's inconsistent. I laid down a bunch of coin for a n900...and Nokia couldn't even provide full portrait support for maemo. Not to mention I couldn't sync my ovi contacts, calendars, notes, etc, with the phone. I used the n8 and again, it is functional, however, the lagginess in the browser and the overall OS just doesn't work as well as android. The simplicity and feel of the Android OS, combined with its functionality, lack of lag on most modern devices, really trumps anything Nokia is offering right now. Nokia's hardware is great, but most people don't need, want, or care about 12mp cameras out there. I'm happy with the 5mp unit on my galaxy S. I've had a e71, a n900, and a n8 for a while. They're good phones, but once I had my Galaxy S, and I tried going back, I was so frustrated by little things that Nokia left out, and the roundabout and unintuitive ways you CAN do things with Symbian, but just aren't polished, that Nokia forces down their users throats. Also, Nokia did have a real chance to do something special with Maemo, but instead, they chose not to support it. I don't know why, I loved the OS, but, just like any other mobile phone OS, including Android and WEB OS and iOS, there needs to be consistent and MEANINGFUL updates. At least with an Android phone you can count on that. With Nokias nowadays, you're lucky if you receive an update every year.
16. thatdude1 (unregistered)
Well, I have used Android handsets in the past: Galaxy S(Vibrant and Epic). Both suffered from OS freezes to the battery overheating and shutting down the phone. I have experienced lags both handsets, and a friend of mine just purchased an Evo that had to rebooted twice in as many days. And Android does not offer consistency when it comes to OS updates. Look at the Motorola Cliq XT now stuck on 1.6. Look at how the MyTouch 3G got the 2.2 update and the MyTouch Slide did not. All OS's have their faults. I have experienced several with Android which is why I always go back to Symbian. I won't even get started on IOS or WebOS.
2. philip (unregistered)
i actually hope NOKIA will not go with android or any other OS for that matter. Nokia is doing their own thing other then joining the bandwagon. and that is more impressive then any sales record, or anything. NOKIA maybe not be beating the smart phone frenzy in the US but thats because the majority of the phones are ANDROID powered phones from many various manufacturers. but i do hope nokia will do something to gain some well-deserved ground in the mobile phone market. i've been hearing things about MEEGO. i wonder if they are going to follow through with it
3. JustPlainDave (Posts: 45; Member since: 03 Feb 2011)
As long as they make a comeback to keep things competetive. The fewer manufacturers there are, the higher the prices will go. I think it'd be great to have an Android-powered Nokia to couple a great OS with Nokia's proven record of device reliability. But if they don't go with Android, they could certainly go meego and do well. Time will tell.
4. BobbyTaba (Posts: 316; Member since: 11 Aug 2010)
Android does have a lot of phones from different manufacturers but nokia is making more phones by them selfs with symbian so u cant blame it on that
7. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 861; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)
Nokia's problem right now appears to be internal. They have so many phones to support and so many variations of its OS to provide updates for, and God knows what Elop is doing with the workforce there or Symbian and MeeGo for that matter. No wonder it's taking them so long to get the new Symbian out to market. I mean we can't all be like the Android manufacturers and have Google do all the leg work while they just create skins for it. Although, Samsung seems to be having the same problem with the Galaxy S variants here and getting the Froyo update out to all of them, so I guess Nokia isn't alone in that sense. But it would be nice if they could pick up the pace a little and get these things out.
Symbian does not need to go. Nokia needs to get PR3.0 finished and out the door, and remove all these roadblocks that are preventing the quick release of it. Then you'll have your O
5. Muyanzi (unregistered)
Idk Why everyone is acting like Symbian is dead and buried since Android is the top OS now.
There is only a 2% difference in Market Share between Android and Symbian, if the new updates in the coming months are good enough to attract people to the OS them Symbian can be back at #1 by summer.
9. JustPlainDave (Posts: 45; Member since: 03 Feb 2011)
It's not that they're dead and buried, but we haven't seen anything new and exciting from them in a while. That's what it takes, a competetive spirit to stay on top.
8. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
With all these organizational changes taking place at Nokia, it doesn't give a good impression to investors, which affects their stocks and marketability. What they need to do for now, while they're fixing they're organizational chart, is to adopt android or wp7 os. That way they would'nt have the pressure and worry about their os for now. They could focus on organizational restructure, and then when that's been figured out, they can go back and continue to work on their os. They have the hardware, it's their os that's slowing them down.
17. thatdude1 (unregistered)
Nokia adopting Android would just mean that Nokia would become another hardware manufacturer like Motorola or HTC. It would be worse with Windows: they barely have any market share anywhere, let alone the US. What they need to do is speed up the process of implementation. Get their stuff out the door and to the masses much quicker, from handsets to OS updates.
10. snowgator (Posts: 3249; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Just curious - why are we asking why Nokia isn't a stronger player here, instead of why isn't Android, WP7, and the such more competitive overseas? I know there have been inroads, but it is the US market that makes Droid so powerful, not the overseas. I know nothing about the Symbian OS except what I have read on sites, but it seems as though if it had ANY success here in the States, Google might be left spinning its wheels on an bobsled course trying to keep up. Now, I am not moving over seas or really worried about it, but it seems like everyone else involved with these systems are. Nokia will probably not stay out of this market for long. You do not stay on top for as long as they have by being dumb. What can Web OS, Blackberry, Android, and the iPhone do to stay ahead of them once they get HERE, and how do they start cutting into the Symbian stronghold THERE? I am honostly asking....
11. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
It's getting there. Nokia had a strong lead. IOS and Android are still new platforms, but are rapidly taking over. Android and ios is very popular outside the US. Unfortunately, they're more expensive. Nokia is still the phone for the masses, especially in developing countries, which makes sense. Rolls Royce, BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Bentley are not as popular in developing countries either as they are in the US and other rich countries. You have to consider some factors that come in to play. Apple made more profit off their iphone than Nokia, and Apple does not even have a third of Nokia's market share.
15. snowgator (Posts: 3249; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Hadn't thought about the mass produced effect making Nokia very inexpensive for those markets. That makes a lot more sense. Most of these posts on here sound as though Nokia just cut their own throat by producing so many phones, nothing was ever implemented well. Just a case of getting too big to handle your quality correctly. If that is the case, it will be very interesting how the markets outside of the U.S. shake out in a couple of years. Thanks for the response.
12. Carl75014 (unregistered)
Nokia problem is only the Software. They have had top HW for a few years already but could never manage to use them properly on SW side, ending with legions of VERY UNSATISFIED customers like me (N95 8GB), who will never forgive them.
Themselves killed their unique and not so bad Symbian SW :
- 1st by not implementing it properly on leadership Smartphones (Voice recognition never worked and I lost 4 points of my driving licence for that Nokia, and phone backup did not work while DRMs could only be stored in root that gets erased at each firmware up-date, loosing all paid music each time you up-grade your phone hoping voice recognition could have been fixed in new firmware, which of course never happened, like if Nokia Exec never used their own phones,...etc. Sames for VoIP secured keys...etc),
- 2nd by unprofessionnally saying they would walk away from Symbian, far before they could come out with something better available to sell (Forget MeGo. No interest).
Now there is a risk they decide to team up with Microsoft, the 2nd big looser of the Smartphones, who did exact same errors as them and already started to make even bigger ones (Real Windows 8 ported to ARN as well as Intel at CES2011 !), after killing its ouw W Phone 6.5, abrubptively replaced by immature W Phone 7 based on MS MP3 devices... restarting it all from zero, and that 1 year after is still trying to provide "cut and paste" ! Ridiculous MS. Please Bill come back before HE kills your entire company !
=> 2 x loosers bundled togheather will only make a BIG LOOSER. While this may be the last chace for Nokia to endorse Androïd with a chance to lead that maket after few years, but I bet they will miss it.
Plus considering how badly they implemented Symbian on my N95 8GB I bet they could NEVER just implement Androïd decently on any Smartphone. I had Symbian on my previous 1st 3G Sony Ericsson V800, and I loved it. Was doing everything well, including Voice Recognition by the way (Was simple. Just could register a voice track for each Number on each contact of your address book, and speaking same worlds it could find the number in 99% of cases. N95 8GB prevents that. Pretends it's so intelligent this is not needed, since it can recognize all contact names, but it recognizes bloody nothing and you end up stuck loosing driving licence point and hating Nokia !).
For me Nokia game is OVER. Not considering them any more. Done.
18. thatdude1 (unregistered)
If you are blaming a PHONE for loosing points on your licence and not YOURSELF, then you are not qualified to use a smartphone of any kind. There is no need to even respond to anything else you have posted.