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Microsoft Lumia 1030 a.k.a "McLaren" said to boast a 50MP rear camera, 4th-gen short-pulse LED flash

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Microsoft Lumia 1030 a.k.a
As Microsoft is reportedly prepping a successor to the one of the more popular Nokia Lumia devices up to date, the Lumia 1020, which is universally praised as one of the more potent cameraphones out there. Codenamed "McLaren", the device in question could end up being called the Microsoft Lumia 1030.

While the Kinect-like gesture input-technology that the McLaren was rumored to sport has been reportedly put on hold, the device is still said to don some quite intriguing features and pieces of hardware.

As the Lumia 1020 is popular for the capabilities of its 41MP PureView camera, it comes to no surprise that the recent round of rumors regarding its successor comprise a rear-positioned camera sensor with a respectable, two-digit megapixel count. If the rumor mill is to be believed, the Lumia 1030 (or whatever Microsoft decides to name it) will boast a 50MP camera, most probably of the PureView type. Apart from raising the ante in the megapixel count, the Lumia 1030 is also said to come with a physically-larger camera sensor, which is always welcome. In addition, the flash of the device is said to be not a xenon, but a 4th-gen short-pulse LED one.

When it comes to photography, there's a wise saying which claims that “megapixels are not everything”. While this is generally true, the Lumia 1030 will have to have some additional aces up its sleeve so as to successfully stand up to the best-performing smartphones in the imaging department right now. The answers to all of our questions regarding the Lumia 1030 might get unveiled at the upcoming MWC 2015.

In the meantime, we already got treated to some photos depicting a prototype Lumia device. Could this be the McLaren in question, the long-awaited successor of the Lumia 1020? 


source: WMPowerUser

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posted on 01 Dec 2014, 03:33 2

1. AnTuTu (Posts: 1575; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


W :O W

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 03:34 4

2. Manti123 (banned) (Posts: 207; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


This has to be Nokia N10

FU elop

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 03:38 10

5. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1293; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Well this is clearly a WP device, a Lumia.
U cant expect any pureview, clear black like Nokia tech on their new "N" series Android devices until 2016.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 03:40 6

6. Johnnokia (Posts: 1054; Member since: 27 May 2012)


You are wrong honey.
Nokia still has all patents and technologies and they surely can use them on their own handsets.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 03:45 6

9. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1293; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


They might have patent but they can't make one. In case of you don't know all these pureview and other Nokia Lumia features are under Microsoft control. I would like to see a Nokia Android as well . But a proper one with all these tech is not going to happen any time soon.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 06:56 3

25. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)


No Nokia doesn't, the tech is MS along with many Nokia top engineers, why do you insist on spreading ignorance and then duping those who upvote to believe such lies.

http://www.windowscentral.com/nokia-brand-names-belong-micosoft

Besides Microsoft also has Canon technology as well so expect a great device.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 09:14 1

37. marcski07 (Posts: 598; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)


yes they can, but nokia can't name it pureview and clearblack now. they own the name not the technology.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 22:45 1

52. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


Yeah, great device...with horrid branding and an even more horrid OS.

Those Nokia designs and prototypes are almost gone, so good luck to Microsoft...

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 10:51 2

44. akki20892 (Posts: 3899; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


This would be Nokia lumia 1030 instead of Microsoft lumia 1030 :(

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 03:35 5

3. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1293; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Awesome. Now just make it slimmer with an aluminium body.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 10:43 1

42. akki20892 (Posts: 3899; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


I can't Wait for this beast.......with windows 10.
And of course 50MP camera

Bring it on

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 03:37 6

4. tech2 (Posts: 3323; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


If its gonna look that ugly and bulky who cares.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 03:41 10

7. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1293; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Actually we do. These preview beasts(808,1020) are undisputed kings of smartphone cameras. All they have to do is make it slim as possible and better shutter speed time. Microsoft really need a flagship device.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 04:23 2

12. rency0722 (Posts: 152; Member since: 12 Jun 2013)


Sadly, having a larger image sensor and making it slim doesn't come in both ways, not unless they defy physics.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 04:41 2

14. tech2 (Posts: 3323; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Well then your categorization of 'we' is a minority. The sales of both 808 and 1020 have been embarassingly disappointing for Microsoft Mobile. They should really listen to the average consumers and fix its shortcomings rather then just making the phone thicker and increasing the MP count which beyond 40 is useless anyway.

'Undisputed king' doesn't mean anything if the bottomline sales is poor. Besides claiming Lumias, undisputed is a bit far fetched. Dxomark showed the Lumias to its rightful place. Awful video recording and oversaturated colours doesn't really make them an 'undisputed king'.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 04:58 4

15. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1293; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Well yeah, it is minority. Look this is a great tech. Give credit they deserves it.
When I said undisputed king I wasn't talking about sales number or profit. I don't believe the best always sells the most. There might be alot of drawbacks for device but its camera is to notch. It is the best camera phone. But I do agree video recording is kinda bad. But other than that it is great camera. Especially those 5mp shots.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 05:56 4

19. jojon (Posts: 329; Member since: 11 Feb 2014)


You do not owe tech2 an explanation, you got it spot on right the first time, "808 and 1020 are undisputed kings of smartphone cameras"

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 06:28 3

23. tech2 (Posts: 3323; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


How is it 'undisputed' when the video recording capabilities are not good ?

How is it 'undisputed' when it doesn't record 4k videos ?

How is it 'undisputed' when it only records 1080p at 30fps ?

How is it 'undisputed' when DxoMark, who carry out a very very extensive tests, it is not even in top 10 of best smartphone cameras (1020) ?

How is it 'undisputed' when it takes 10 seconds to fire up the camera and take a picture ?http://www.phonearena.com/news/At-the-snap-of-a-finger-which-flagship-takes-photos-the-fastest_id57165

The fact is, they were good when they were first released. However, in comparison to today's smartphone flagships they are far behind in terms of camera capabilities.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 07:00 6

26. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)


Why are you always so critical of all things MS?. All companies produce great tech live and let live.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 07:04 4

28. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1293; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


I did said video recording is not that good. And you just pointed out 3 "how is it" drawbacks of video recording lol. Besides is there anything, any device without drawbacks? From my experience, it took best shots, day and night.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 07:13 2

30. tech2 (Posts: 3323; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Exactly, now you're right 'from my experience' !! Don't pass your own judgement as 'undisputed king' when you haven't tried all other devices. That's your opinion but the truth is far from it.

'Besides is there anything, any device without drawbacks?' - There isn't that's why one should be careful when mentioning 'undisputed king'. Lumia 1020 is not a good all rounder. Its great in night shots but thats about it. In daylight Note 4/iP6+ takes the cake. You potray that it is far above competition which is a blatant lie.

Lastly, you agreed video recording is not good but I was pointing out that it lacks several features. Those are two different arguments.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 08:16 2

32. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1293; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Does dxomark's king iPhone records in 4K? it still record sounds in mono I think. But still #1 in their list. Besides how long note 4 records in 4k? 5mins why? overheating and huge amount of space required. I can't comment on new iPhones because I haven't used them but note 4 camera in day light still doesn't impress me. its great but still prefer pureview shots (especially those 5mp photos which I already mentioned.). And you should use updated 1020 because there is huge improvements in camera quality.
So back to your first comment, we do care. With expectations of improvements from its predecessors. There is reason why it packs such huge sensor and lens.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 07:11 3

29. elitewolverine (Posts: 4991; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Top ten before any software updates that have improved the camera and before raw. The only low score was video yes. More people take pictures than videos, and even then the video is no slouch just not '4k'. As well numerous people have asked them to retest because of the bigger difference and they have all been denied stating....they dont retest camera's.

Only camera-phone to be pitted against real cameras, not even the note 4 or others got that treatment.

The low light xenon shots alone puts note 4's etc to shame. LED simply does not stand a chance in its current form.

10secs was total time to fire, shoot and save. In reality its about 6 seconds to fire up. Most people will fumble with the lockscreen or having to press the power and tap on the lockscreen if they have the camera put on the lockscreen in the first place. All the while the 1020 with its shutter-wake default will launch and take pictures. Negating most side effects of a longer time process.

Far behind? more like, lacks 4k. Far behind means the sensor is weaker, the shots are worse, the xenon doesnt off benefit, and more. I dont think you know what far behind means.

Also reframe zoom in/out is simply fun as hell and has proven itself worthy in many situations.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 08:18 1

33. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1293; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Exactly.+1.

posted on 02 Dec 2014, 23:50

55. tech2 (Posts: 3323; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


lol....You lost me at 'Only camera-phone to be pitted against real cameras, not even the note 4 or others got that treatment.'
-That really is a daft argument. Just because its compared to a 'real' camera doesn't automatically make it a better cameraphone then others. I can link you couple of videos in which Note 3 outperforms DSLRs too but it really doesn't prove anything.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLiehzLTxXk

Funny how you need to just single out '4k' when mentioning far behind. So what about 30fps 1080p ? 30fps is just too low by today's standards. I am not even talking about other feature this dinosaur has missing like quick autofocus, HDR in video, etc.

It still take 10 secs to if I want to take a second picture doesn't it ? and in my experience almost everyone takes more then one pic of whatever or whoever. All other phones nowaways take 2 secs while in 10secs you are pretty sure to loose the moment which u wanna capture.

Talk about taking things too far, 'xenon alone puts note 4 to shame'. I've owned a Cyber-shot and it is just too overpowering. In certain situations yes xenon is better but that is not always the case. But saying statements such as that really weakens your argument then anything else.

posted on 02 Dec 2014, 19:07

53. Ty_inCA (Posts: 18; Member since: 13 Oct 2013)


It's the undisputed king because I used one to take a picture of a hummingbird in midflight with all of its feathers clearly visible. There isn't another phone that can take a remotely comparable picture that I know of.

I'd post the link, but it won't let me because of post counts. I've posted it on pocketnow half a dozen times before. Find any given 1020 article on there and you can track it down in the comments.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 09:20 3

38. marcski07 (Posts: 598; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)


funny when they can't argue or accept the fact that a phone has something superb tech which they hate, they always brought up the argument in terms of sale which is invalid reasoning, this is tech site not marketing site or whatever you call it, i don't care about sales, i care about what a company will bring to the consumer.

posted on 02 Dec 2014, 23:38

54. tech2 (Posts: 3323; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Probably coz you don't know the meaning of 'undisputed' which he mentions. I am merely pointing out that not many people consider it a good phone except few tech sites. Hence, worthy of disputing if anything.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 08:37 2

35. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 724; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


And the troll strikes again! :-D

Same lame arguments. Same questionable sources. Same ignorant conclusions.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 09:48 7

40. sbw44 (Posts: 433; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)


you definitely care seeing that you take your time to comment on something you clearly hate.

dxomark is a bunch of fanboys, they tested the 1020 at start when it had a yellow tint issue but after that when it was fixed they never tested it again! but the main reason why they lose credibility is where they rate led flashed better than xenon flashes!

and lastly how many times have the 1020 won comparisons???? all you can talk about is speed of shots and 4k, does the note4 process 41 million pixels? does the note have lossless zoom???

if you wanna troll at least be a bit more intelligent

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 03:43 3

8. Symon_Fleece (Posts: 334; Member since: 30 May 2014)


4th generation pulse LED Flash?

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 04:00 4

10. hasell (Posts: 6; Member since: 25 Nov 2014)


this is gonna be awesome!! take my money Microsoft!

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 04:07 2

11. arturmeireles (Posts: 20; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)


FINALLY!!! I hope comes with 3GB and a screen of 5"

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 06:21 3

22. Wiencon (Posts: 1706; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)


And SD slot - it's a must for this phone.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 07:13 1

31. elitewolverine (Posts: 4991; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


1k pictures in a month and my 32gb has not suffered. One drive has proven great.

I would like an SD Card, options are always great, but not a deal breaker for me.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 04:29 1

13. daftside (Posts: 13; Member since: 26 Apr 2014)


This thing is ultra hideous! I'm actually glad they scrap this one.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 05:35 2

16. aksa123 (Posts: 319; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)


Dedicated camera button? Good.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 05:46

17. cezarepc (Posts: 714; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


The face of the guy is visible lol

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 05:49 2

18. jojon (Posts: 329; Member since: 11 Feb 2014)


Yep..that's what i'm talkin' about. That thing is a bitch, i want it in yellow!!

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 06:02

20. laughmi (banned) (Posts: 283; Member since: 28 Oct 2014)


we don't want 50MP cam. What about filesize and all troubles that come along and even if you can decrease the MP why to concentrate on that. We just want a good camera even if it is 5 or 8MP.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 06:05 2

21. cezarepc (Posts: 714; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


I'm sure you know oversampling from the 1020 right?

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 07:01 2

27. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)


Speak for yourself bud, i want a 50 MP. I'm upgrading.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 08:57 1

36. elitewolverine (Posts: 4991; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


925, 930, 1520, 830. Great stuff. However 41mp on the 1020 just is a cut above bar none.

File size? 1020 comes with like 20gb or so of usable space after some app installs and games etc. You would need to take nearly 600+- full raw pictures without deleting a single one to fill up that type of memory. 600.....

Considering you can upload the raws etc to onedrive, i would think after 200, you would clear them out.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 10:20 2

41. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


dont include me on the "we dont want" statement ok?

so you want a good camera? buy their low end phones.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 06:44

24. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1513; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


Folks January is not far ahead. Microsoft is said to be heading for CES so this smart phone be could be there to greet us. they have to have something interesting at CES next month or why even appear there. I hope Microsoft introduces a new cheaper Surface computer that cost less than 450 dollars with the type cover using an Intel Atom CPU running good old full Windows 8.1 / 10.. I have a feeling though they will introduce a smaller lumia tablet to replace the Nokia lumia 2520 and a surface 3. both will run ARMS CPU's, Windows 10 and will be running the new upcoming Microsoft "Universal Apps". I predict Microsoft will probably beat Apple to the market with a Microsoft branded 50 inch HDTV integrated to X BOX and Microsoft's Apps store and it's video and Music apps.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 08:37 1

34. Beijendorf (Posts: 339; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)


The rumour is from NokiaPowerUser, which are usually highly UNRELIABLE. And even THEY are sceptical about this rumour.

I'd give this a 0/10, would not trust again.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 09:31 1

39. senrab (Posts: 2; Member since: 01 Dec 2014)


My question for anyone who has expertise in the area of Camera Flash technology is if a 4th-gen short-pulse LED flash performs better than a combination LED Flash + Xenon flash that currently exist on my Lumia 1020. I'll be very disappointed if I go backwards in flash technology. I take a lot of pictures of moving objects, and the Xenon flash works perfectly at freezing those objects and thereby produces pictures in perfect focus with no blurs. Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks!

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 11:36

45. elitewolverine (Posts: 4991; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Well Xenon flashes higher intensity with a shorter span-few milliseconds, which is what helps it 'freeze' the moment. Currently LEDs cant match the speed/power in a phone setup.

However, there are applications, and things all over the web, of photographers going to LEDs because of lifespan. They are using customer outage and speed to achieve same results.

If the LED in the 4thgen shortpulse, can match intensity and milisecond output, then it should have no problem replacing the xenon in the phone.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 10:48

43. Ikechukwu (Posts: 196; Member since: 03 Oct 2011)


bruh I might just get this ooo:

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 12:42 1

46. SIGPRO (Posts: 1287; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


Why no xenon flash? Xenon is still better than led flash! They should build both in the phone!

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 15:17

47. shimanto1123 (Posts: 100; Member since: 20 Nov 2014)


Darude - Sandstorm

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 16:54

48. unklmik (Posts: 14; Member since: 01 Dec 2014)


"Alleged" is the key word. We'll not see any believable until after CES, if then.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 17:54

49. Phonecall01 (unregistered)


Sold. Just take my money MS !!!

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 18:43

50. SemperFiV12 (Posts: 944; Member since: 09 Nov 2010)


So THE BEST camerphone on the market even TODAY (as I type this on the 1st of December 2014) is going to be refreshed with a newer model?! Even if the rumors are 50% true, this device is shaping to be a KILLER phone...

... only so PhoneArena can take it. Give it poor reviews... Not include it in any blind camera tests... and then write up some literature about how it is/was "one of the more potent cameraphones" when in reality it is THE BAR all other smartphones compete against.

posted on 01 Dec 2014, 18:45 1

51. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)


Lack of xenon flash seems like a step back. Oh well, it's MS, so that should have been expected...

posted on 03 Dec 2014, 05:50

56. Hamid.Z (Posts: 8; Member since: 03 Dec 2014)


Everything is nice, but I'd like the xenon flash back :(

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